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Re: Do You Think There is a God?

Postby Desecrated » Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:28 am

Atzmuth wrote:Do you think there is a God or What makes you think there is?


I believe in myself.
Sometimes.
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Re: Do You Think There is a God?

Postby ErebusNamtar » Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:42 am

Nope...not this

a. A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
b. The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.

But who knows, there might be some force out there. I however, do not believe it is sentient in that it cares for us. It's just there.
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Re: Do You Think There is a God?

Postby EEHC » Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:52 pm

ErebusNamtar wrote:a. A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
b. The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.

But who knows, there might be some force out there. I however, do not believe it is sentient in that it cares for us. It's just there.

When I look at the complexity of nature, it's hard not to see the Universe as the work of a Designer who is aware of It's creation.

But you have a point, the arguments presented by monotheistic religion are collapsing under the weight of dogma and supersitions.
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Re: Do You Think There is a God?

Postby Frater Chiasmus » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:08 am

"We are the substance of the Universe."

Whatever is in the stars is in us, sparked us, fashioned us by design. I like to think we are the essence of God. Whether this is by some obscure osmosis or some all inclusive incarnation, who knows.
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Re: Do You Think There is a God?

Postby JTAllerton » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:00 pm

I believe in the energy of God and that we can tap into that energy and manipulate it for our good. We can do this subconsciously. For example, wishing that a new lover will enter our lives is a way of using this energy.

What makes me believe this way?
I think it has to do with my true belief in magick as a system. For it to work, it needs some form of energy and that energy must be limitless and powerful, hence the presence of a God-like energy.
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Re: Do You Think There is a God?

Postby cactusjack543 » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:02 pm

this is our lowest half of the equation

so (1?9 => eyes, hear, touch, I am)
((((1?9 = 3.14.. . (need eyes, need ears, need touch, I am, I need, I see, I believe, I saw, need taste, need smells, need dictionary,ill)i will)i think)i just)
this is to fight the harlet in babalon the government tricked me into doing this for years and couldnt back it off.

here is your fruit

Perception creates our version of reality.

If we perceive from a basis of fear we will see a frightening reality.

If we perceive from a basis of love reality is seen in its true state.
I a only human 30 year prair to have a white picket fence with a nice spiritual healing lady golly... - ---.- 666:)....astoservemycity

Now just be quiet while my name plays you the opening theme to Mr. Dressup however one could give this all up so easely with women as bowned problem solver leading to lost of everything..
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Re: Do You Think There is a God?

Postby SchizophrenicLibra » Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:44 pm

I do belive in higher powers that could be called gods.

Although if it was possible to prove the existence of god/gods from within this reality it seems to me some kind of important spell would be broken.
A spell that was not meant to be broken until one leaves this reality for good.

Just an uneducated thought.
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Re: Do You Think There is a God?

Postby Spida » Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:21 am

SchizophrenicLibra wrote:I do belive in higher powers that could be called gods.

Although if it was possible to prove the existence of god/gods from within this reality it seems to me some kind of important spell would be broken.
A spell that was not meant to be broken until one leaves this reality for good.

Just an uneducated thought.


There is a Dominance Hierarchy here on Earth. I would extrapolate from, extension to a Universal Hierarchy that can be traced back to the God Source.

Whatever is the source of Creation is God, whatever that may be! Anyways, the work speaks for itself. If you take the time to look, and meditate on it(mostly informally in my case).

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Re: Do You Think There is a God?

Postby Dr Strange Stuff » Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:32 am

Spida wrote:There is a Dominance Hierarchy here on Earth. I would extrapolate from, extension to a Universal Hierarchy that can be traced back to the God Source.

Whatever is the source of Creation is God, whatever that may be! Anyways, the work speaks for itself. If you take the time to look, and meditate on it(mostly informally in my case).

Ciao!
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Dominance Heirarchy? What do you mean by this? I get the whole demonic heirarchy with lucifer/ devil/ whatever you want to call him at the top, but what about the other side? I get Arch angels are high up, but is there anything above arch angels? Also are you referring to arch angels here? I can't tell.
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Re: Do You Think There is a God?

Postby Spida » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:17 am

Okay, here is one angle on this:

Universal Hierarchy:

Top of Hierarchy(God the seed) - we can go beyond, but not needed.(Divine or Archetypal world)
Archangel - Germinating seed of God. Anabolic Process over the Eons. (Creative)
Angel - Formative(Workmen) Fractals assembled from Gods Creative Processes.
Human - also Formative to a lesser degree

Down to single celled organism I suppose, and perhaps beyond when you get to a point of ending up with just Energy and have come full circle back to the Primal God Force! Life Force!
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Re: Do You Think There is a God?

Postby chowderpope » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:17 am

My understanding of God aligns with the Kabbalistic model and I think hard materialist atheists are dull.
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Re: Do You Think There is a God?

Postby Spida » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:15 pm

chowderpope wrote:My understanding of God aligns with the Kabbalistic model and I think hard materialist atheists are dull.



IMO, if anyone spends a marginal amount of time meditating on Creation. Then the question should no longer be whether or not there is a God, but instead, what is the nature of this Thing.

It need not be anthropomorphic, but merely a Creator God, e.g. an Eternal Catalyst. Which would be more suitable for an Atheist I suppose.
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Re: Do You Think There is a God?

Postby Napoli » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:23 pm

Spida wrote:
chowderpope wrote:My understanding of God aligns with the Kabbalistic model and I think hard materialist atheists are dull.



IMO, if anyone spends a marginal amount of time meditating on Creation. Then the question should no longer be whether or not there is a God, but instead, what is the nature of this Thing.

It need not be anthropomorphic, but merely a Creator God, e.g. an Eternal Catalyst. Which would be more suitable for an Atheist I suppose.


Agreed. I consider myself a hardcore atheist for this. Even if I work with deities, I won't be exactly religious. On top of that we all are gods in potential.
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Re: Do You Think There is a God?

Postby Calicifer » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:48 am

I find heavily ironic that people who are ought to know best still refuse existence of God. Well, first we must make distinction between a God and the God. There are many gods, take your pick and your afterlife. The God is creator. It is not conscious and does not sit in the clouds as fatherly figure. Of course, white fatherly figure, why he would ever wish to be black or appear as a women? Don't be ridiculous!

But please tell me this, if you work with Gods or dieties, how can you still deny a presence of this primal force? Evidence to it can be found everywhere you look. You can even experience God which should not complete unheard in the occult community. You should not be as blind as atheists and see deeper connections which tie together entirety of existence with unexplainable grace. I found especially fascinating all those atheistic satanists who practice their feeble magick, who accept parts of spiritual truths as real, despite on scientific level they are pseudoscience at best and yet, they deny any form of further spirituality.
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