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Digital Deities in Cyberspace

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:50 am
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: filthofstars

Technoshamanism: Digital Deities in Cyberspace

by Douglas Groothuis
Whether or not this "extraordinary confluence of consciousness" in cyberspace is identified with the noosphere, a raft of technopagans are tapping into cyberspace as a realm for mystical discovery, magical powers, and evolutionary advancement. The use of cyberspace for these ends is often called technoshamanism.

Technoshamanism, in all its permutations, is more than the latest fad from San Francisco ? although a high concentration of such activity is located there. While not an organized movement, it represents a growing cultural trend to deify cyberspace. The tribal shaman of ancient, pagan religions was a mediator between the spiritual and material worlds, who experienced mystical ecstasies and initiated others into the same communion with higher powers.25 Technoshamanism eliminates the middleman ? although it is not without visionaries, philosophers, and programmers ? and offers mystical connections in cyberspace possible to everyone with a modem. Anyone can be a (techno)shaman.

The essence of technoshamanism may be summarized in this statement by a pagan practitioner: "May the astral plane be reborn in cyberspace."26 In an extensive article on technopagans, Erik Davis sees parallels between the notion of magic as "the science of the imagination, the art of engineering consciousness and discovering the virtual forces that connect the mind-body with the physical world," and "our dizzyingly digital environment" of cyberspace technologies involving on-line fantasy role-playing games and other new, mind-expanding devices.27 Technopagans believe these technologies can serve as occultic sacraments in the digital age, because technopagans "honor technology as part of the circle of human life, a life that for Pagans is already divine."28

Mark Pesce, a self-confessed technopagan, claims that both "cyberspace and magical space are purely manifest in the imagination. Both spaces are entirely constructed by your thoughts and beliefs."29 The pantheism?animism?polytheism mix is expressed when Pesce explains, "I think computers can be as sacred as we are, because they can embody our communication with each other and with the entities ? the divine parts of ourselves ? that we invoke in that space."30 In his mind, cyberspace is pictured as "the computer equivalent of holography, in which every part of a fragment represents the greater whole."31 Pesce later concluded that the Internet?s ability to form a myriad of electronic connections corresponds with the Eastern idea of the net of the Indian goddess Indra, in which each jewel reflects every other jewel.32 The analogy, however, is flawed, since every point in cyberspace does not connect with, let alone reflect, every other point.

Technopagans are also attracted to the idea of cybersex (simulated on-line sex) and gender morphing (assuming alternative sexual identities on-line). A woman named legba (sic), a witch, enjoys cybersex and morphing because "they can be intensely magical. It?s a very, very easy way of shapechanging." Legba likens this to the traditional shamans, who she says are "between genders, or doubly gendered." Moreover, "morphing and net.sex can have an intensity and unsettling effect on the psyche, one that enables the ecstatic state from which Pagan magic is done."33

Another pagan, Tyagi Nagasiva, has "cobbled together his own mythic structures, divination systems, and rituals ? an eclectic spirituality well suited to the Net?s culture of complex interaction."34 Nagasiva engages in "chaos magic," in which participants do not rigidly follow the occult tradition, but create their own rules or ignore them altogether, "spontaneously enacting rituals that break through fixed mental categories and evoke unknown ? and often terrifying ? entities and experiences."35 He claims that most pagans get on-line to coordinate rituals they then practice in real life, whereas chaos magicians say, "Let?s do the ritual [itself] online."36 Nagasiva inhabits this ritual space from four to six hours a day.
http://www.equip.org/atf/cf/%7B9C4EE03A ... /DC228.pdf

Digital Deities in Cyberspace

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 4:54 am
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: DrMummy

Be forewarned. Yes, I am a nerd, and the idea of an internet deity has lurked in the back of my mind for a while.

I think that the internet has already created it's own memetic deity.

I'm talking about anonymous. Anonymous is the collective of everyone's thoughts, treated like a single entity. It's purely a creation of the internet.

Like the internet, it's anarchic, amoral, and completely unpredictable.

One explanation of anonymous is as follows:

Anonymous is the source of 90% of all internet truth and justice. Anonymous is void of human restraints, such as pity and mercy. Those who perform reckless actions or oppose Anonymous will be eliminated. Failure is not tolerated. Enemies of Anonymous are those who are not Anonymous. Enemies are to be dealt with swiftly and with great justice. Anonymous must work as one. No single Anonymous knows everything. You are. I am. Everyone is. Anonymous is humanity when the gloves come off.


A more eloquent description of Anonymous

I don't see much use in it ritually though. Due to the unpredictable nature of Anonymous, a spell or ritual involving it is likely to backfire horribly due to the general consensus that it is "not your personal army".

It is an interesting concept though. Like I said, a deity that was created purely through the power of the internet.

Digital Deities in Cyberspace

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:03 pm
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: Sheosyrath

I do not agree with this assertion of anonymous, I do not think "anonymous" qualifies as a deity. Although this phenomena is still amazingly interesting. Anonymous is the first true "Stand Alone Complex". SAC was established to define events in the anime series Ghost in the Shell, but it has become a subject of science fiction that has taken shape in modern reality.
Wikipedia wrote:A Stand Alone Complex can be compared to the emergent copycat behavior that often occurs after incidents such as serial murders or terrorist attacks. An incident catches the public's attention and certain types of people "get on the bandwagon", so to speak. It is particularly apparent when the incident appears to be the result of well-known political or religious beliefs, but it can also occur in response to intense media attention. For example, a mere fire, no matter the number of deaths, is just a garden variety tragedy. However, if the right kind of people begin to believe it was arson, caused by deliberate action, the threat that more arsons will be committed increases drastically.


What separates the Stand Alone Complex from normal copycat behavior is that the originator of the copied action is not even a real person, but merely a rumored figure that commits said action. Even without instruction or leadership a certain type of person will spring into action to imitate the rumored action and move toward the same goal even if only subconsciously. The result is an epidemic of copied behavior-with no originator. One could say that the Stand Alone Complex is mass hysteria-with purpose.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_in_t ... ne_Complex

Back on the actual subject of the thread, Technoshamanism is not a new subject... but I have to say as a fairly serious practitioner of shamanic arts, and a known troll of cyberspace, I tend to stay away from the almost absurd antics of the techno-pagan/shamans. There are many of their assertions I do not agree with, such as where he says "cyberspace and magickal space both exist in the imagination" but this, I say, is utter nonsense. "Cyberspace" exists in electrons, in data, patterns and charges - not 'imagination'. The internet may indeed be another world manifesting itself, but it should be treated like what it is, a world-wide collective of information and communication, I do not think the astral should be reborn into cyberspace.

Digital Deities in Cyberspace

Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:22 pm
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: Kath_

wow, I was thinking of SAC too.

long live /b/

Digital Deities in Cyberspace

Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:48 am
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: AstralMagickCraft
I'm talking about anonymous. Anonymous is the collective of everyone's thoughts, treated like a single entity. It's purely a creation of the internet.

Like the internet, it's anarchic, amoral, and completely unpredictable.

One explanation of anonymous is as follows:

Anonymous is the source of 90% of all internet truth and justice. Anonymous is void of human restraints, such as pity and mercy. Those who perform reckless actions or oppose Anonymous will be eliminated. Failure is not tolerated. Enemies of Anonymous are those who are not Anonymous. Enemies are to be dealt with swiftly and with great justice. Anonymous must work as one. No single Anonymous knows everything. You are. I am. Everyone is. Anonymous is humanity when the gloves come off.
Fuck anonymous, long live 4CHAN!

Digital Deities in Cyberspace

Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:33 am
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: the spirit!

rules 1 and 2

cancer etc...

Digital Deities in Cyberspace

Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:23 pm
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: Skeptismo118

See what you can dig up on XaTuring.

Digital Deities in Cyberspace

Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:39 pm
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: Ajivani

KIBO, the God of Cyberspace!

Digital Deities in Cyberspace

Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:56 pm
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: 1911

Blah, blah, blah, if you weren't careful about strangers before then you probably won't be careful about them now.
I have another story for you whether you believe it or not. I care not for this but it seems an equal amount of a small piece of the sum of all parts. I was riding on the road to nowhere and saw a small rest-stop, a strangely modern one, heated and lighted ( I prefer to shit in the woods). I parked my bike and entered it. I saw a much older man with that glassy, faraway look staring at something intently. His choice cut of meat was an ~sixteen year old boy, a seeming runaway, laying sleeping crumpled on the floor. I stood and stared at this man, I was ready to kill, my lockblade open in my pocket, he got the hint and left.
I awoke this kid and told him he shouldn't sleep in these places and gave him the truth as to what happened while he was asleep. I gave him a ride to the nearest town (which I was going to pass through anyway) and gave him twenty bucks -after which he offered me a blow-job, I declined.

pick up the flag or not.

Digital Deities in Cyberspace

Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:26 pm
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: DrMummy

[QUOTE=the spirit!;341500]rules 1 and 2

cancer etc...[/QUOTE]

The rules don't apply to me, I don't run with that crowd.

It's merely an observation.

Digital Deities in Cyberspace

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:27 pm
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: the spirit!

honesty, the rules should apply to everyone. the internet would really suck if every site was just a bunch of 4chan memes.

i don't really understand the allure either...."LOL that guy goes to the same website i do! XD XD XD!!!"

no sir. just no.

Digital Deities in Cyberspace

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:35 pm
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: DrMummy

Honestly, I hate memes, I hate 4chan, and I hate the pedos who frequent the site.
An internet deity should reflect the nature of the internet, and 4chan is the internet at its' absolute worst. As much as I hate the idiots on that site, they've created an entity that they invoke every time they post on that site. Yes, it's childish, racist, abusive, and idiotic, but it doesn't change the fact that it exists.

I'm not spouting memes, I'm making an argument that's relevant to the discussion.

"rules 1&2, cancer, etc..." is irrelevant meme spouting.

If you want to argue with me, attack my argument. I didn't come to OF to debate the distinctions of the unofficial rules of 4chan.

Digital Deities in Cyberspace

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:08 pm
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: the spirit!

argument? you made an observation.

you'll notice i never spoke directly to you until responding to "the rules don't apply to me", which i took as you proclaiming that you can spout memes all day if you want. an obvious mistake.

also, rules 1 and 2 could mean anything... i was trying to make a point of vaugity.

in summery: calm down baby, have a piece of cheese.

Digital Deities in Cyberspace

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:14 pm
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: nechesh

I can't believe that no one has even mentioned William Gibson's Sprawl Trilogy in this thread. :)
Sprawl trilogy:
Neuromancer (1984)
Count Zero (1986)
Mona Lisa Overdrive (1988)
After all, he is the guy who invented the term "cyberspace" and these novels, especially the last 2, get into some serious stuff about deities of the web.

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