An astral parasite

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Original post: Alugarde

So, I had a nightmare last night. It was the kind of dream that feels crazy-real, and leaves you with the distinct impression that you were somewhere other than your own dreams, or that someone besides you was in your dream.

The dream itself was a series of random scenes, all of which were strangely perverted by the presence of a certain being who I could sense, and throughout each scene I knew it was the same being over and over, even if it's form kept changing. This is, by the way, the same sort of scenario that occurred with my second to last nightmare about four years ago (nightmares are extremely rare for me, and are at this point only ever supernatural encounters.)

A few snippets that I remember....at one point I was a large goldfish in a pond, and there was another goldfish in the pond who was supposed to be my dad, and a third goldfish that was the entity was physically trying to separate us. (It's kind of interesting that I just got off the phone with my dad and he blew up at me for something stupid). For some reason, all of our fish-bodies were more short and squat than one would expect from a goldfish of our size.

Then suddenly I was myself again, standing above the two other fish, and I began stomping on the entity. I killed it physically, and as it was lying there on the ground (the water randomly receded), I couldn't really get a clear mental image of the inside of the fish. Some sort of skeleton came out, and the carcass had sort of reshaped itself into a form that reminded me distinctly of a wolf, as did, and the bone emerging from the head was kind of a weird shriveled wolf skull. But as I kept looking at it, I got the distinct impression that it wasn't really dead...I eventually tried picking it up, and there was some sort of weird reaction when I touched it. Sparks flew for a moment I think, and the whole scene kind of rippled. I woke up groggy and feeling weird, but at that point wasn't creeped out enough to stay awake, so I rolled over and immediately started dreaming again.

This time I was walking into my bathroom (which for whatever reason had a different physical layout than that of my current bathroom), and as I walked past the shower to the far wall of the bathroom, I noticed some weird discolorations on the curtain that reminded me of something dripping from the opposing wall direclty onto the shower curtain (as though gravity ran from the opposite wall pulling things toward the curtain -- which it didn't, but the drops distinctly gave me that mental image.) As I reach the far wall, suddenly the entity moves from behind the curtain. It's large, a little larger than me, and has some sort of feral body, but the vaguest impression is all that I get, because the entire shower curtain bulges out and moves with it, and it traps me in the corner behind the curtain, unable to see anything but the white curtain ruffling in front of me and crushing me. I let out a strange scream and feel helpless, and then wake up out of breath. Not really out of breath. More like, I instinctively took several deep breaths because I felt like I really needed the air.

At this point I realized something was in the room with me. After trying to recover a little bit of my emotional reserves, I closed my eyes and tried to put myself back into the dream, right where it left off. The goal was to visualize myself forcing myself out of the curtain and fighting off the entity...and the most I got was pushing the curtain out from myself perhaps a foot or two, and the "camera" of the dream zoomed out a little and I saw the entity, except as usual, I couldn't actually focus on it...it was vaguely lycanthrope-esque, though, I suppose...

I think for a brief moment I threw the curtain off of me too, and tried to confront the beast directly, but something jolted me out of the dream (no clue what, I just remember a jolt) and I woke up again, and this time felt it draining energy from me several times in quick succession.

I spent the next two and a half hours out in my living room working on various things. At various points I had to come back into my room, or came back in on my own to try and face the entity, and I could feel it's presence immediately and felt it trying to drain me each time. I reinstalled MSN messenger to try and talk to an old friend who I thought might have some good input, and though she was offline, someone from OF randomly saw me on here and messaged me on MSN messenger to ask me about psychic vampires. Talk about synchronicity! XD

Anyway, I figured that the key to banishing it might be to finish a poem I had started just before I went to sleep. I had come upon an important realization on my walk home that night, and I felt it was significant enough that I had to try and capture it in text. It wasn't until about 7:00 that I finished the poem, and by that time it was getting light out. I'm not sure how much it had to do with the poem and how much it had to do with the sun rising, but either way I walked into my room, and although I felt a residual icky energy, I could tell that the room was safer, though the paranoid side of me is still a little creeped out by my room even now, and I'm not sure if it's cause it's still lurking around here or cause I just have an overactive imagination.

I fell asleep for about another 45 minutes (holding a ball of wax that for personal reasons I feel repels malevolent spirits), had decently normal dreams, though somewhat brief, and then had to get up and go to work.

So, long crazy story over, my question is what do people think this entity was, and how do I make sure to properly get rid of it? Spirit, subconsciously-spawned servitor-run-wild, paranoid delusion? I've had a few encounters with baddies like this before, but this one felt freaking strong, so I'm somewhat worried about it...

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Original post: Blue_Crash

damn sounds like a really strong energy seeker.
Why don't you eliminate it by overdosin it?
They seek energy, and you're in the astral plane
just blow up yourself and he will get all overdose
and get away from you!
if it doesnt works, then i dont know

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Original post: koolbear05

Sounds like an astral parasite, I've been through it too where you just know your dreams aren't your own, not something you typically dream about etc. . . I just take a cleansing bath for two days or three and cleanse me room.

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Original post: RandomRainbow

Try an LBRP and repeat it if you want or do an LBRP and then an SBRP, and remember to sheild yourself...
the LBRP has in the past helped me get rid of astral entities like this
good luck

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Original post: Kath_

astral parasite.

of course, it's only following its own biological imperative :p

but that said. I destroyed one in 2001. and a few months later I captured one intact. describing 'how' might be tricky, and depends on your proficiency with energy manipulation.

First off though, in any confrontation with it, bear in mind that it's got a way with 'fear' and be prepared for waves of very fear-energetic energy which might make you want to feel panic stricken due to its effect on your empathy. if you can shrug that off, then the entity itself is 'usually' not all that durable. First grab ahold of it. Then just completely unravel its energy pattern, and completely un-imbue its energy signature from every bit of the remaining 'stuff'. also dominate it mentally, blind it, dull its senses, leverage confusion into it, and then just shred it. The only trick is that it can be difficult to completely stamp out every tiny bit of the entity's being-ness from every tiny bit of the energy remnants. and if you don't it'll regenerate (though it may just go away after that anyway).

actually that may be a bit heavy handed maybe.

there's always just saying "howdy"... funny how often that can completely derail a predatory dynamic.

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Original post: Kath_

on rereading this, i had one more thought. parasites of this type can be exceedingly powerful in your dreams, because your mind is in a very suggestible state when you're asleep (unless you are FULLY lucid, and even then you can be easily sidetracked and lured away from lucidity). I'd 'fight' it while awake, rather than trying to engage it in the dreamscape.

[jwoman]

Here's a few odd realizations and questions regarding astral parasites that have crossed my mind. The ones I've encountered while in a dream state or astrally seemingly have been insect looking or have looked like some kind of insect. I've seen what appeared to be lady bugs, 2 giant, white larvae about 2' long and around 6" in width and the last one I can remember was almost a see through light green color and resembled a giant spider. If anyone would like me to explain more on what happened just ask. I can remember what occurred quite well.

The point being though is, is are these real or are they a thought form? Could someone else experienced in creating a servitor or thought form also be responsible for sending their desired targeted individual one of these, things to do their bidding for them personally? Or, these could be an actual parasitic entity all unto itself, just as you and I are real and really do exist?

[Kath]

personal opinion... I think the "look" of an entity (doubly so in a dream) is very personal and interpretive. It's like... what if you had an art assignment and were told to make a painting of something nonphysical, like say the emotion "regret". You brain tends to do that sort of thing to make sense out of perceiving nonphysical things. In dreams your mind takes all sorts of ideas and represents them symbolically. But even when awake, it can do that sort of thing when it's trying to make sense out of nonphysical perceptions. Basically we have ESP/psychic perceptual ability, but our brain isn't really fully wired to deal with that sensory input *directly* so it often re-interprets those perceptions into something we can relate to our physical senses (sight, sound, etc). Technically (and some would disagree) I would say that a nonphysical being does not have any actual 'form' in the visual sense, or 'sound' in the auditory sense. I think the look or sound of a nonphysical being is entirely interpretive, either projected by the being itself, or superimposed by our brain to try to interpret what we perceive with out ill defined 6th sense, but arbitrary and non-literal either way.

As for "what is it?", I think it could be an autonomous splinter of your own mind/energy (a thought form), or it could be an accidentally created servitor, or it could be someone else's thought form or servitor, or it could be someone else directly, or it could be an entity unto itself (human ghost or non-human entity), or an egregore (essentially a 'group thoughtform'), or... something else.. hmm. you know in a dream it could very likely be a symbolic representation of things going on in your psyche. For example, an expression of some sort of stress or worry which is hanging over you, like the mind playing out what's bothering it, and creating stylized characters to represent ideas & feelings which have no real-world form. I'd rate that as "most likely", followed by the 'thoughtform' explanation, followed by the 'entity' explanation, with the other possibilities being fairly remote (but possible). I base that simply on how common each sort of situation is. Free-associative dream symbolism is by far the most common, followed by entity-like interactions which are really fragmented or repressed or even fully separated autonomous bits of ourselves, etc.

In the original post's description there were many subtle details which made me immediately think "parasitic entity", based on past experiences with those, and on intuitive feel from getting to know some of that sort of being. Actually his description was uncanny in how many familiar details it had in it. Your description, being much more brief, could be anything really

[cactusjack543]

reading a little i sorta understand perhaps in a vast way perhaps at times not familiars to me are similar to spirit cloans had a geat war years ago friends and family still evil satan escaped in my mind cursed but a second time. that war stretch into canada and down to the bottom where computers are.

in space i was very terified of what i call the know level is where you can loose your soul forever you freeze elevators people watching you your motionless. very scarry but to suggest astral parasites not quite sure perhaps these are but non the less higher powers control them the seperation upon my war and the know level banished the abysee is another one PEACE

[jwoman]

Thanks Kath for your personal thoughts and opinions about astral parasites. Unfortunately, more questions arise as well as thought come into mind now about all of this particular subject of interest. I tend to agree with you about what you said in how the entity or parasite might look to the one who's perceiving it in the astral or in a dream state. Whatever is there could very well appear the way we might believe it would look and so yes our mind could make and form it to look the way we think it would look. And yes spirits, entities, ghosts, etc. could very well be able to do the same thing, appearing in forms that we'd believe they'd appear as looking similar to.

One question that arose from reading your post and response to what the astral parasites I've seen in the astral or in dreams is, is what if one of them's an actual being from there and isn't a thought form, servitor or egregore and is also something that causes a physical issue during your waking life? Here's an example of what I'm trying to say here. There was once a time I was in the astral. I was outside who knows where and suddenly had seen two giant larva. From what I can remember, I seen them rapidly leaving my mouth or face which I thought was strange. In reality, I have a tendency to consume a lot of sweets. I believe that ever since the two larva left my astral body, I've been craving sweets in reality a whole lot less now. I believe, that they were perhaps real and were influencing me to eat sweets in order to feed off of that particular kind of energy. I've read of such occurrences where something such as an entity, ghost or astral parasite can actually cause the person to have physical sicknesses, problems or illnesses due to the attachment being attached to the person's astral body. I wonder what caused the two larva to leave my astral body? Maybe my change in diet in wanting to eat less sugary foods? This is why I don't believe that some of what I've encountered have only been a thought form or egregore and was more real than only something that was imagined. I also believe that certain ghosts, entities and Earthbound entities could very well also influence an individual who they've chosen to attach them self to to do things in order to become more fulfilled in getting whatever it is they're addicted to wanting to have. It could be someone who died and had an alcohol addiction or some other reason.

What you also suggested and said was right too. I could very well be wrong about what I said. But I do believe that whatever we may choose to do during the time we're awake could attract such an astral entity or astral parasite to then attach itself to our astral body and cause havoc to us during our physical consciousness. They could encourage us to do things that we'd normally not want to do, such as take drugs, drink alcohol, eat sweets and make us do these kinds of things to an extreme which isn't good for anyone over all to over due too much of anything to begin with. Just like a living person who could influence us to do things, it makes perfect sense that those who aren't living anymore could make us do things too, same thing with an astral parasite, entity and whatever else that might be found within the astral realm. The astral can be a dangerous place, but guess what. The physical can be just as dangerous too. We have to explore and learn more though in order to further gain knowledge and wisdom but unfortunately it normally seems as though we have to go about doing this in a way where we might run into a problem or get hurt. How else can one learn more though if one never tries?

[jwoman]

cactusjack543. Very unusual statements you had there. I'll try to make some sense of what you wrote here and will attempt to reply accordingly. What's a spirit cloans? A spirit double? A doppelganger? Is this where a spirit chooses to create more fake spirits of him or herself? In knowing that does that mean that those cloned spirits aren't real and are only a hallucination projection being manipulated and controlled by the actual spirit him or herself?

How could there be a war in Canada when they never have wars? I never heard of them having had a war before.

Why would you say that Satan wants to be in your mind and would curse you? What would be the purpose of him wanting to choose doing that to you of all of the billions of other people on this world? And why would he care to do that or waste his precious time doing that to you? What makes you so special? (no offense)

At times I use to have dreams about being in space or perhaps I astral projected to space before too. So you've been able to do that too? Nice. As for loosing your soul just because you go to space forever. I don't believe that can happen because we have what's called a silver cord. It's our main life line. If we're spiritually projecting somewhere, all we have to do is go on that line and it will lead us directly back to our physical body again. If the silver cord's cut, then bye bye you, you're life's over and you're dead. lol If it's cut then it was your time to go.

As for the being frozen part. There is a place in the astral plane that I've sometimes experienced going through where I couldn't move more than only a centimeter at a time. I'm unsure what that's all about but it's very annoying being unable to move. I believe someone once told me that whenever that happens you're probably partially in and out of your physical body simultaneously, which then makes you almost completely immobile wherever you're projecting at in the the astral at that specific time you're there.

As for what you said about the astral parasites. Why would a "higher power" want to create and control such a thing as those? What would be the purpose in doing that? I believe that a malicious spirit or entity or living person would create those kinds of things to do harm onto someone for some unusual purpose v.s. someone who's benevolent. I'm curious as to why you'd say a "higher power". Could you and would you mind explaining more about that here? Or are you saying that the lesser powers to be have found the astral parasites and the higher powers are the knowing and have found then banished the astral parasites into the abyss? Very intriguing to ponder about, thank you.



reading a little i sorta understand perhaps in a vast way perhaps at times not familiars to me are similar to spirit cloans had a geat war years ago friends and family still evil satan escaped in my mind cursed but a second time. that war stretch into canada and down to the bottom where computers are.

in space i was very terified of what i call the know level is where you can loose your soul forever you freeze elevators people watching you your motionless. very scarry but to suggest astral parasites not quite sure perhaps these are but non the less higher powers control them the seperation upon my war and the know level banished the abysee is another one PEACE

[cactusjack543]

well im no one particularily but if took 5 years of philosophy if understand ALOT more of what i write and could be recognized as such. ive been on welfare for 20 years having schizophrenia.

with my schizophrenia hell opened up in my mind as where my spirit doubles reside they had different levels of being in charge of tings where i was leader. oh the horror of the capabilities of satan. when one has a war like such it stretches and intregrates the soul to stretch as far as it can in my case my spirit stetched it across canada nothing special jst another day in a schizophrenic.

my spirit double multiplied over the years i see it most all material things the balance on the internet to being aware on websites for years. sounds strange and yes it is government asked a favor this ment to control the internet and take charge of most websites within the balance of it. i pondered it what stupidity what responsibility some in life feed on balance what horror.

when i left earth my soul i didnt just leave i may of been excomunicated because of having a huge war within what i call the cities of satan what stands out in my mind the most was satan had lost souls in him doin DUTIES painful duties. alien head quarters i call it and jesus castles were lost in the war oh how great they were with my schizophrenia doctors say its delusion but to this day i could visit these paces prob being settled into again.

to me the silver line is a time line it can be healed. ive stretched from one side of eistence and back from the bottom of the big bang box to our futue and ive seen tremenous things. the know level as i call it to me is controled by futurisic aliens seeking refuge in the future they seem to want a balance in time so they banish people in accordence to heir knowledge level like a measurement similar to identifying the seperation of religion and athiest the fruit of knowledge they give rules from the future to heard sheap the best witchcraft leaders find the search for power wealth and greed within these rules so voluntarily knowig at times start to herd sheep. even the abyse in my yes are controled by higer powers persphs angels demonds who knows but are worst nightmares higher powers have set these in motion

[mjane]

I know this is going to sound strange but, I need help. I Read the OP and I can empathize with her problem because I experienced something somewhat similar. Its started back in 2008, when i would get the feeling someone was sending me messages at first obscure like the one's in the OP but, also that someone was listening to my conversations. I thought repeatedly my house was bugged. I thought it was the result of me working in intense situations with people with mental illness and the stress was getting to me because i hadn't been in the field that long. I also want to mention that i would have a feeling when I woke up in the mornings that i had engaged in intercourse. I shrugged them all off as just my mind playing tricks on me. Around that time I purchased a new 42inch flat screen for my living room where i spent most of my time off work. Life was pretty ok until i lost my job. I then spent a lot more time paying attention to news programs and the like. I was watching one of the 24hr news cast one day and became upset by one of the stories scrolling along the bottom of the screen about 400,000 people being displaced from their home in Eastern Europe. I felt something leave me and the tv screen froze and the station announce tech difficulties or something but, it returned to normal. I shrugged that off also.
Somewhere in in during this time I purchased a like $3 book from Borders, it was a encyclopedia about witchcraft with spells. I mostly read it to find stuff about secret organization to post on political internet sites. Nothing serious. I do remember a lady laughing as i picked it up at the store. My daughter had asked me about this particular famous star and one week night, found the one of the stars movies posted on Youtube and watched it and later on that night i watched different youtube posting about the star till 3am though, i had to work the next day. I went to work and as i was getting off work i learned the star had passed away. I was heartbroken. I shrugged it off as a coincidence. The artist seemed to call to me when i saw his work so, i began researching personal things about the artist, It was like i was possesed. After I lost my job, I started posting to popular internet sites more about politics and I posted stuff about the oil spill, and some other stuff too numerous to remember. I used part of my income tax to fund a trip to Vegas, saw Criss Angel and some other stuff it was great.
Here's where the story gets really weird.
So, I'm sitting home alone one day cleaning and watching videos on VH1, and they are playing eighties hits. Mike and the Mechanic's song can you hear me running. I'm thinking of old friends not really paying attention to the screen. When the screen started keeping pace with my thoughts. The next song that played was I want to know what your thinking. I got scared left my house and told an aunt what happened. They calmed me and I went back home but, not before a man told me the boogey man was coming. No probs with the TV for about 2days when i was alone again. I was flipping channels with the remote and it started talking to me again. I landed on VH1 again. On that channel they have that baphomet image as part of its advertisement for rock music. Well.. It jumped off the freaking screen and disappeard into the carpet. I said screw it no one believes me i went got drunk. Returned to my tv and now not only was it talking but, i could feel it touching me. I was really drunk and I did have sexual intercourse with something. Every since that day it has been with me. It says it will never let me go. It was in the shower with me and it moved the curtain and I could feel it there. It's here with me as I type. It told it was a hex, at first it told me it was a particular politician, then it pretended to be that star that I mentioned earlier and now its a politician again. Strange people walk up to me on the streets and say strange things related to the politician or the star. Coversations around me keep up with my thoughts. I got angry one day and destroyed the tv about 6 months ago but, the problem remains. Other strange things have happened in the news in my city that I think could be related but, not sure. I try to cut off contact with this creature daily. Now I'm at my wits end and I have no one I could talk to about this and they won't think I'm crazy.