Original post: kinkar
Could you possibly contact an entity during projection and learn how to summon it from the physical?
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Original post: K.A. Malik
Absolutely. Evoked entities don't appear out of nowhere. If you know what their plane of origin is, it would be possible (if variably difficult) to go there and give the entity a reason to tell you anything. Note that unlike most evokations, there is nothing inherent in projection which commands an entity to obey you. Of course, you could choose a plane whose nature is to your liking and choose an entity when you get there. Cooperating with them is left to your social skills and if you have anything they are interested in. From my experience, random entities you come across couldn't care less about you or your world.
Look up Kabbalistic pathworking, astral travel around the Tree of Life. Angelic entities are some of the most cooperative kinds you will meet, as they are more functions of cosmology than independant, ambitious critters.
Absolutely. Evoked entities don't appear out of nowhere. If you know what their plane of origin is, it would be possible (if variably difficult) to go there and give the entity a reason to tell you anything. Note that unlike most evokations, there is nothing inherent in projection which commands an entity to obey you. Of course, you could choose a plane whose nature is to your liking and choose an entity when you get there. Cooperating with them is left to your social skills and if you have anything they are interested in. From my experience, random entities you come across couldn't care less about you or your world.
Look up Kabbalistic pathworking, astral travel around the Tree of Life. Angelic entities are some of the most cooperative kinds you will meet, as they are more functions of cosmology than independant, ambitious critters.
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Original post: Ognamus
haha, of course angelic entities should be cooperative! That's the one thing that seperates em from daemon above all others. They're subseviant in their relationships! Hehe, so go right ahead, worst they'll do is glare at you then give you a stern lecture if you bother them in most situations... unless you accidentally summon up the wrong thing.
haha, of course angelic entities should be cooperative! That's the one thing that seperates em from daemon above all others. They're subseviant in their relationships! Hehe, so go right ahead, worst they'll do is glare at you then give you a stern lecture if you bother them in most situations... unless you accidentally summon up the wrong thing.
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Original post: kinkar
So a created entity could be summoned as well?
I wonder if i just met some random person and asked them how i could evoke them from the physical..while projecting
So a created entity could be summoned as well?
I wonder if i just met some random person and asked them how i could evoke them from the physical..while projecting
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Original post: Ognamus
Hehe, maybe they'll give you their phone number. (seriously, is calling a person when they're trying to sleep not an attempt to evoke them? )
Hehe, maybe they'll give you their phone number. (seriously, is calling a person when they're trying to sleep not an attempt to evoke them? )
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Original post: Qryztufre
[QUOTE=Ognamus]Hehe, maybe they'll give you their phone number. (seriously, is calling a person when they're trying to sleep not an attempt to evoke them? )[/QUOTE]
I was gunna go off on ya fer being a smart ass and then give some long lecturing sermon on whats wrong with the OF these days...but then I read the post above yours & it seems you could be correct
[QUOTE=kinkar]So a created entity could be summoned as well?
I wonder if i just met some random person and asked them how i could evoke them from the physical..while projecting[/QUOTE]
In theory, yes...this is possible, either how Ognamus or...
Summoning Astral Travelers & Getting caught up in someone elses ritual
While there is not much in the two threads above they are certainly on topic...at least in so far as they are related to the slightly off-topic aspect of summoning PEOPLE you meet in the astral
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[QUOTE=Ognamus]Hehe, maybe they'll give you their phone number. (seriously, is calling a person when they're trying to sleep not an attempt to evoke them? )[/QUOTE]
I was gunna go off on ya fer being a smart ass and then give some long lecturing sermon on whats wrong with the OF these days...but then I read the post above yours & it seems you could be correct
[QUOTE=kinkar]So a created entity could be summoned as well?
I wonder if i just met some random person and asked them how i could evoke them from the physical..while projecting[/QUOTE]
In theory, yes...this is possible, either how Ognamus or...
Summoning Astral Travelers & Getting caught up in someone elses ritual
While there is not much in the two threads above they are certainly on topic...at least in so far as they are related to the slightly off-topic aspect of summoning PEOPLE you meet in the astral
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Original post: kinkar
ya i just wanted to be able to summon something that noone else does so i could use my own ritual or one that the entity tells me to use.
hmm guess it is slightly off topic
stupid mod critisizing everyone *grumble grumble*
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ya i just wanted to be able to summon something that noone else does so i could use my own ritual or one that the entity tells me to use.
hmm guess it is slightly off topic
stupid mod critisizing everyone *grumble grumble*
: )
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Original post: Qryztufre
[QUOTE=kinkar]ya i just wanted to be able to summon something that noone else does so i could use my own ritual or one that the entity tells me to use.
hmm guess it is slightly off topic
stupid mod critisizing everyone *grumble grumble*
: )[/QUOTE]
Well, as stated above it certainly is possible to summon an entity from instrtuctions gained while astral....it's just other people can tend to be tricky.
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[QUOTE=kinkar]ya i just wanted to be able to summon something that noone else does so i could use my own ritual or one that the entity tells me to use.
hmm guess it is slightly off topic
stupid mod critisizing everyone *grumble grumble*
: )[/QUOTE]
Well, as stated above it certainly is possible to summon an entity from instrtuctions gained while astral....it's just other people can tend to be tricky.
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Original post: kinkar
i see thats cool cuz i was just using people as an example.
i just want to deal with the entities...
i see thats cool cuz i was just using people as an example.
i just want to deal with the entities...
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Original post: kinkar
How could one go about finding entities in the astral to learn from? I wanna learn how to move objects from the astral.
How could one go about finding entities in the astral to learn from? I wanna learn how to move objects from the astral.
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Original post: Acid09
WOW NELLY one step at a time man. First evoke the simplist things like a pet (gold fish work nicely ;-) ). I say simplist because they are the hardest to mess up and do the least damage when you do. Then you can work with people and transmuting objects into the astral or visa versa into the mundane. My advise is that regardless of what modle of magick you use to derive a technique know that your will power on the astral is what does all the work. Basically that means you can "will" things before you, provided you take the proper per-cautions and understand certain fundamentals of magick in general. If you truely feel you know all that good luck! Also if you want to learn from other worldly begings just let you intentions take you where ever. Like "hey thats shiny over there I think I'll check it out" well what do you know? It just may be an astral school/temple. Intent on the astral is like a zip cord that will just zip you where you Desire to go. Note that want is different than desire because you may want pizza, money or education ect, but you desire freedom, love, happiness, power, ect, ect. Pick a desire and learn from IT.
WOW NELLY one step at a time man. First evoke the simplist things like a pet (gold fish work nicely ;-) ). I say simplist because they are the hardest to mess up and do the least damage when you do. Then you can work with people and transmuting objects into the astral or visa versa into the mundane. My advise is that regardless of what modle of magick you use to derive a technique know that your will power on the astral is what does all the work. Basically that means you can "will" things before you, provided you take the proper per-cautions and understand certain fundamentals of magick in general. If you truely feel you know all that good luck! Also if you want to learn from other worldly begings just let you intentions take you where ever. Like "hey thats shiny over there I think I'll check it out" well what do you know? It just may be an astral school/temple. Intent on the astral is like a zip cord that will just zip you where you Desire to go. Note that want is different than desire because you may want pizza, money or education ect, but you desire freedom, love, happiness, power, ect, ect. Pick a desire and learn from IT.
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Original post: kinkar
Very Helpfull thanks
I think i will do that instead of look for something made up by someone else.
Very Helpfull thanks
I think i will do that instead of look for something made up by someone else.