Seeing through things - repost

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07-09-2004, 09:32 AM #1
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seeing through things
for a while i have been learning myself to focus eyes on things behind solid things. like when i am in a train or something like that, i focus on the other end and move my sight lower until i only see the chair in front of me. the trick is to keep focused on were the other end would be located, even though i can't see it. this can be done easily and gives a sense of spacing in a occupied space.
however this practice is to let me believe that i can actually perceive images beyond that object in front, as to look through it. when attemting i try to visualize an 3d map of surroundings, and use this as a guide to focus on points were my eyes can't see. i hope to get my third eye participating to expand that vision into something that looks like the no clipping mode in quake (that my current presumption how this vision will manifest)
however i am curious if there are any others here who try or even accomplish this.
i am interested in this because i would like to see through the concrete walking on and wich layers are beneath it, or be able to see if someone is home when going to visit. have numorous applications in mind...
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07-11-2004, 04:49 PM #2
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When I'm just chilln out, my eye starts opening. Stuff sort of 'expands appart' and vanishes, colours start swirling, and energies start pulsing. Wacked out warpy wierdness.

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07-12-2004, 04:53 AM #3
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That sounds like some kind of aura scanning Katziye. The swirling multi coloured effect is usually the background energy that surrounds us - you must be pretty sensitive to pick that up. Usually all I see are the higher energy fields of living organisms, I saw BG radiation only once when I was in a deep meditation.

I am looking into wave mechanics on the premise that the aura or bio-electrical field that surrounds all living things is electro-magnetic in nature, as such it ought to obey known physical laws. Quantum mechanics has already shown that all matter is in fact composed of energy in different forms. All matter has a characteristic vibration frequency and that frequency determines what type of matter it is, this again has been proven by quantum mechanics! Exactly the same premise applies for the spiritual realm too (spiritual bodies are just forms of energy as is the aura which surrounds us all and they all have characteristic wavefunctions).

On another thread I have already dealt with resonance effects and they work! Resonance is the basis of lasers and they certainly do work!

Without blinding everyone by physics (please ask me to explain if you get lost by the information below!) I will try to explain a hypothesis whereby you may be able to go invisible to normal matter!

As well as the well known resonance effects, there is also another theory of wave mechanics to do with phase. All wavefunctions have a phase angle, two wavefunctions with identical phase angles are capable of constructive interference and that is the principle behind resonance. The amplification effect depends on the phase and frequency difference (the well known schrodinger equation solved for two wavefunctions).

Now I summarise that the reason why you don't go through a wall is that the wavefunction of the atoms in the wall is in phase with your own wavefunction (simple quantum mechanics - electrons repel because thier wavefunctions are always in phase, protons on the other hand are 90 degrees out of phase with electrons and therefore they are attracted) hence you are repelled from the wall at a quantum level and vice-verse. However the frequency of the wall is different to our own and hence you only feel repulsion and no resonance effects (resonance only appears to work with other living organisms and with certain crystals).

OK, if there was a way to change the phase of your bio-electrical field then it should be possible to see using your third eye right through ordinary matter!

It would be nice to do the same thing with our physical bodies but to change the phase of the wavefunction of every single atom in your body would demand extremely high energy levels! Thats probably why we don't see people walking through wall, however physics says it can be done! Already experiments with electrons and other small particles have proven they can go through otherwise impentrable barriers.

The theory is there - its just up to someone to prove it works! I am not sure how you change the phase of your aura though, if anyone has any ideas then I am sure we would all like to hear them! What do you do with shielding when you flip between normal aura field and some sort of shielding? I am guessing it must be a frequency change and not a phase change? I am only guessing because I never observe any distortions of objects around me when flipping between the two.

I am only a lowly physicist with an interest in this stuff, I hope there is someone on here who is more experienced with these techniques and may be able to agree or disagree with my theories.

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07-12-2004, 08:05 AM #4
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Though I wasn't concentrating on seeing through anything, one time while scrying with my rug (yes, I scry with my rug) I saw the rug underneath my legs. I was sitting with my legs crossed and staring down between my knees and I noticed in the corner of my eye that my knees weren't there anymore and that I could see more of the rug than when I first started the session. But when I shifted my gaze, my knees came back.

It didn't last very long and I didn't get to shift my focus to the exact location of my knees, so I can't really say whether or not it actually did happen or what, but I have been thinking about it for a while.

It could easily be explained by that shift in perception when everything around you drops away while you're scrying.

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07-12-2004, 09:49 AM #5
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What is scrying?

Sorry to be so ignorant!

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07-12-2004, 05:50 PM #6
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subliminal/venereal, i have had that seeing through your own body thing,
i was crossing my legs, n shakin one foot, and watching tv, i noticed it twitching, but when i looked, my leg was in the way, heh, and i kept doin this cus i was ,erm,excited? lol
but its only happened once

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07-12-2004, 06:12 PM #7
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OK, if there was a way to change the phase of your bio-electrical field then it should be possible to see using your third eye right through ordinary matter!
Not just see through, you can phase through ordinary matter. Check this article at Psipog.

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What is scrying?

Sorry to be so ignorant!
Not ignorant. It's just not part of your repertoire yet. Scrying is using your 3rd eye for clairvoyancy or precognition via an outside source, the crystal ball being most famous.



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Thats an interesting article and kinda supports what I was saying too. I guess it would work with the proper shield phasing and as the article says the physics is certainly there. In a sense you are not breaking the laws of physics merely changing the properties of matter for a while. Doing it for the whole body would take a lot of energy though and you would definitely need access to an active power source. Doing it on small objects and projecting may be more feasible.

One day I may learn shield phasing but I am only just getting to grips with shield harmonics and modulation. I am not quite ready to fall through the sofa yet and I would rather the chair that I was sitting on would continue to support my weight!

Do crystal balls actually work? I am wondering about getting one and how I would use it to enhance my natural psychic abilities. I am a bit skeptic on new techniques until I have a chance to try them - sadly crystal balls are rather expensive and I wouldn't invest that sort of money without a good probability of success.

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Original post: Lingo

hi,
I have always been able to see through things, not big things, but my hand, my foot, the tv control, apples and vegetables and things of similar size. I thought everyone could do it, but when I try to explain it they think I'm mad! So I've been trying to find ways of expanding this 'vision' to see through larger objects - I didn't know if it was possible. So i searched it on the internet and found this post, and, well its just reinforced the fact I';m not going mad!


p.s. Sorry to drag the post up again..

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Original post: shodin

lately i've been able to see with my eyes closed. it happened during some form of meditation.
only my peripheral vision worked, i couldn't see anything in front of me - just noisy blur -. only around the center i saw a sort of black and white vision. things looked a bit different though, i saw everything a bit distorted.

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Original post: Phoenixfire

i can do that too sort of. if i close my eyes and wave my hand in front of me i can see it faintly. nothin flashy, just a slight outline in blue. could be my imagination but there you go, ya never know.
last night was strange though. i closed my eyes, looked at my arm and i could see it. but there was someone elses hand resting on my arm! :shock: it was quite freaky and i dont know what it was. oh well

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Original post: Elnihd

I have also noticed that I can see with my eyes closed. It started some time after I had started experimenting with "nigthvision" and trying to see the astralplane while fully awake.
I'll be back here later.

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Original post: Martek

Hi there, I can see through anything. A jet plane, a car, a house. The technique I have used ever since I was a kid was just stare away from the object you want to see through and focus on something other than the object itself. DO NOT BLINK YOU EYES as this is the hardest to achieve but I can go 30 minutes without blinking my eyes at all which I thought was amazing. Keep focusing and you will see the object get blurry and more blurry until it vanishes at the corner of your eye. Now focus a little bit more and realise that the object is not there anymore. You will start to see what ever is behind that object. I have done many tests with my Girlfriend and my Brother on this; mainly with Cards. They put the card face up on the floor and a book on top of it and I begin using my technique. The book fades away and the outline of the card is visible but still blurry. When the book vanishes from my vision, the card is revealed and I can see what it is. It is truly a gift to have when accomplishing the though impossible but your mind is a powerful thing and truly can take over anything. Try it for yourself and let me know what happened! I'd love to hear others try my technique. I thought I was crazy too until I knew it was a true gift. Now I am pleased to share my gift with you. Please email me at Martekthegreat@aol.com or reply here and let me know what your experience was using the technique I just explained to you. Thanks!

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