Hello all! For a bit moments I felt spine surges, electrifying energy near my astral body(which it did not make me uncomfortable or caused me fear) and an oversensitivity to my astral body. I was listening very focused karma cleansing mantras, with the intent to cleanse my karma all day and during 3 or 4 a.m. if I recall correctly, I had this experience and after I woke up from sleep, I had after many years a sleep paralysis. I did not tried any sort of occult protection like cleansing with salt, protective talismans, amulets, e.t.c. Is this experience <<Tapas>> related or entity interference related from your perspective?
I really appreciate your input.
Thank you in advance,
Alexandros
Electrifying energy & astral sensitivity post-karma mantra
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alexandros8888
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Re: Electrifying energy & astral sensitivity post-karma mantra
When you start doing internal training......stuff happens....that's the point. If you could share the mantra, I might be able to give some analysis.
Re: Electrifying energy & astral sensitivity post-karma mantra
The OP shared a few mantras, I'll go through an analysis on the underlying tech of each key below. Note, never worked with these keys before, but these are my thoughts based on my experience so far.
Thiru Neela Kantam
Thiru: Grass, rising out of the root chakra
Neela: Wave of Balancing Power rushing through the Soul
Kantam: Cube Balancing energy that circulates through the Soul
Overall Internal Movement (etherial imagery): Cube of Light that circulates through the aura and moves into the Soul
Overall Effects: Soul Cleansing
-This is a very interesting mantra, while I've not used it before.....the "Light Cube", is an energy form I've come across and worked with in depth in my own practice. A very powerful piece of tech. I don't quite understand the 1st key Thiru.....it seems out of place in the key sound which focuses on karmic cleansing.....I'd have to work with it for a long period of time to grasp fully.
The 2nd key sound is way to long for me to analyze individual parts.....but the overall internal movement appears to me as: A mudslide that saturates the body and sinks down into the soul for cleansing. Overall effects: Body and Soul cleansing.
"Om parabramah paramatmane namah utpattisthiti pralay karaya brahmahariraya trigunatmane sarva kautuk nidarshaya darshan dattatreya namah mantra siddhi kurum kuru swaha"
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With regards to the OP.....the Soul is part of the Astral Body.....and when you work through Karmic energies, this strongly stimulates the Soul. I've only written a bit on this topic....so I can't give conclusive insights. Yet, both those mantras seem very solid and balanced....so I don't think they'll cause any long term harmful effects. That being said, stimulating the Soul, working through karmic energies.....this will likely take you on a journey and cause much spiritual unraveling....so only use them when there is space in your life......that you can tolerate change.
If your system gets overloaded a bit.....just go out and put your bare feet in the dirt....that helps diffuse excess qi in the system.
Thiru Neela Kantam
Thiru: Grass, rising out of the root chakra
Neela: Wave of Balancing Power rushing through the Soul
Kantam: Cube Balancing energy that circulates through the Soul
Overall Internal Movement (etherial imagery): Cube of Light that circulates through the aura and moves into the Soul
Overall Effects: Soul Cleansing
-This is a very interesting mantra, while I've not used it before.....the "Light Cube", is an energy form I've come across and worked with in depth in my own practice. A very powerful piece of tech. I don't quite understand the 1st key Thiru.....it seems out of place in the key sound which focuses on karmic cleansing.....I'd have to work with it for a long period of time to grasp fully.
The 2nd key sound is way to long for me to analyze individual parts.....but the overall internal movement appears to me as: A mudslide that saturates the body and sinks down into the soul for cleansing. Overall effects: Body and Soul cleansing.
"Om parabramah paramatmane namah utpattisthiti pralay karaya brahmahariraya trigunatmane sarva kautuk nidarshaya darshan dattatreya namah mantra siddhi kurum kuru swaha"
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With regards to the OP.....the Soul is part of the Astral Body.....and when you work through Karmic energies, this strongly stimulates the Soul. I've only written a bit on this topic....so I can't give conclusive insights. Yet, both those mantras seem very solid and balanced....so I don't think they'll cause any long term harmful effects. That being said, stimulating the Soul, working through karmic energies.....this will likely take you on a journey and cause much spiritual unraveling....so only use them when there is space in your life......that you can tolerate change.
If your system gets overloaded a bit.....just go out and put your bare feet in the dirt....that helps diffuse excess qi in the system.
Re: Electrifying energy & astral sensitivity post-karma mantra
My own observation is that, in this galaxy, clearing of karma largely relies on developing right relationship.
There may also be the option of petitioning the Lipika Lords for exemption from group karma and removal of personal karmic energies no longer required.
http://sevensuns.org/Sevensuns/Serious/ ... 1994-7.pdf
Mantras can be useful in developing right relationship within the light-body of the practitioner. It is not clear to me that mantras operated by humans have much effect external to their group.
There may also be the option of petitioning the Lipika Lords for exemption from group karma and removal of personal karmic energies no longer required.
http://sevensuns.org/Sevensuns/Serious/ ... 1994-7.pdf
Mantras can be useful in developing right relationship within the light-body of the practitioner. It is not clear to me that mantras operated by humans have much effect external to their group.
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Re: Electrifying energy & astral sensitivity post-karma mantra
Thank you very much guys for input again and very sorry for my late response!
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Your post, also Amor is very informative! The truth is that I didn't know so much about Lords of Karma, until I used a grimoire, named The Mystic Grimoire of Mighty Spells and Rituals by Frater Malak, which book has a specific ritual, if I recall correctly to invoke Lords of Karma. I cannot comprehend very much, your input about <<It is not clear to me that mantras operated by humans have much effect external to their group.>>Can you elaborate please with more details?Amor wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 10:35 pm My own observation is that, in this galaxy, clearing of karma largely relies on developing right relationship.
There may also be the option of petitioning the Lipika Lords for exemption from group karma and removal of personal karmic energies no longer required.
http://sevensuns.org/Sevensuns/Serious/ ... 1994-7.pdf
Mantras can be useful in developing right relationship within the light-body of the practitioner. It is not clear to me that mantras operated by humans have much effect external to their group.
In my opinion, mantras work independent of occult, or religious background from anyone because once one attains <<Siddhi>> ,breaks the <<Keelak>> and the mantras work like a reservoir of battery/spiritual power for obtaining of mundane or spiritual desires as well. From the best of my knowledge there is still a debate in some circles if one's Will has to be aligned with the mantra attributed powers or expected manifestation results, or one's Will has to align mantra powers's themselves in accordance to Occultist/Sadhaka Will, but unfortunately I don't know much about his issue. Also, there are mantras which have not Keelak and bypassing spiritual or mundane obstacles instantly without the need of repetition 108 times e.t.c, which means that they begin to work instantly, but of course, these sort of mantras have other sort of drawbacks....
Re: Electrifying energy & astral sensitivity post-karma mantra
>has a specific ritual, if I recall correctly to invoke Lords of Karma.
The Lords of Karma operate to protect the greater Entity within which they exist. The Entity typically is a Logos using a planet, solar system, galaxy etc as Its body of incarnation.
If you want the various Lords of Karma to help, you need to demonstrate that you are assisting their mission. Currently in this galaxy the mission is generally establishing right relationship
>mantras work independent of occult, or religious background
That rather depends upon the content of the mantra and the energy field in which it is taught/practiced.
>there is still a debate in some circles if one's Will has to be aligned with the mantra
That was not the case with the mantras I was taught. They operated directly on chakras without my knowledge. Only later was I able to track the individual syllables.
> without the need of repetition 108 times
I have little interest in mantras that are repeated out loud. The inner sounds seem central
The Lords of Karma operate to protect the greater Entity within which they exist. The Entity typically is a Logos using a planet, solar system, galaxy etc as Its body of incarnation.
If you want the various Lords of Karma to help, you need to demonstrate that you are assisting their mission. Currently in this galaxy the mission is generally establishing right relationship
>mantras work independent of occult, or religious background
That rather depends upon the content of the mantra and the energy field in which it is taught/practiced.
>there is still a debate in some circles if one's Will has to be aligned with the mantra
That was not the case with the mantras I was taught. They operated directly on chakras without my knowledge. Only later was I able to track the individual syllables.
> without the need of repetition 108 times
I have little interest in mantras that are repeated out loud. The inner sounds seem central
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Thank you for the clarification. Your description of the Lords of Karma protecting the greater Entity reminded me of the Lipika Lords described in Theosophical literature, where they function almost as karmic intelligences operating within the planetary Logos.
In that framework, human karma appears to be integrated into the evolutionary purpose of the planetary being itself. Would it be fair to say that assisting their mission essentially means aligning one's actions with the evolutionary intent of the planetary Logos rather than trying to petition them through ritual?
Regarding mantras, your comment about the energy field in which they are taught is very interesting. In several tantric traditions, especially Kashmir Shaivism and Vajrayana, the mantra is said to become effective only after transmission (diksha), because the sound is actually a vehicle of shakti rather than merely phonetic vibration.
That also seems to relate to your remark about inner sound being central. Some texts describe mantra eventually internalizing into ajapa japa or nada, where the sound arises spontaneously within the subtle body rather than through vocal repetition.
Do you see the mantras you mentioned as primarily activating specific chakric structures, or are they more related to attuning the practitioner to larger archetypal intelligences within the planetary field?
Alex
In that framework, human karma appears to be integrated into the evolutionary purpose of the planetary being itself. Would it be fair to say that assisting their mission essentially means aligning one's actions with the evolutionary intent of the planetary Logos rather than trying to petition them through ritual?
Regarding mantras, your comment about the energy field in which they are taught is very interesting. In several tantric traditions, especially Kashmir Shaivism and Vajrayana, the mantra is said to become effective only after transmission (diksha), because the sound is actually a vehicle of shakti rather than merely phonetic vibration.
That also seems to relate to your remark about inner sound being central. Some texts describe mantra eventually internalizing into ajapa japa or nada, where the sound arises spontaneously within the subtle body rather than through vocal repetition.
Do you see the mantras you mentioned as primarily activating specific chakric structures, or are they more related to attuning the practitioner to larger archetypal intelligences within the planetary field?
Alex
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>Lords of Karma protecting the greater Entity reminded me of the Lipika Lords described
Lipika (recording) Lords are the same as the Lords of Karma. They exist at various levels: planetary, systemic, galactic, universal, trans-universal. When dealing with a karmic situation, it is useful to find the level at which it is operating
>human karma appears to be integrated into the evolutionary purpose of the planetary being itself
Earth humanity operates as an organ within the light body of the Logos that uses Earth as Its body of incarnation/manifestation. Where human activity/relationship/intent is contrary to the goals of their Logos, the Logos suffers discomfort and the Lords of Karma pressure the relevant humans and groups to change.
>aligning one's actions with the evolutionary intent of the planetary Logos rather than trying to petition them through ritual?
Quite so. Better not to pester the Logos. Better to get on with the relevant tasks - mostly about right relationship. Our planetary, systemic and galactic Logoi, in human terms are commonly called gods of love. Love, however, is a subset of right relationship.
Human spiritual practices seem to occur within the energy fields of various encompassing entities. Not all encompassing entities are suited to the development of our Logoi. Some encompassing entities come from the previous solar system when our god was a god of right energy.
Some human souls have yet to achieve the learnings of the previous solar system, so rightly work within the energies of such ancient beings.
Other humans cling to the old familiar ways and thereby slow the progress of the race and the planet. That generates group karma.
On a micro level, long ago I would see meditators taught Transcendental Meditation by a break-away group of initiators in London. Many they taught were not benefiting as the over-lighting entity/guru did not accept those meditators within its light body.
> the sound arises spontaneously within the subtle body rather than through vocal repetition.
That is how I was taught TM. After a couple of "advanced techniques" (mantra extensions) and decades of practice I saw that my mantra activated and soothed the chakra above the crown chakra, head chakra, throat, upper/cosmic heart, lower/personal heart, and upper solar plexus.
I still use TM to harmonize my system before heading out into the Cosmos. A harmonized system makes me more functional and easier to deal with.
Lipika (recording) Lords are the same as the Lords of Karma. They exist at various levels: planetary, systemic, galactic, universal, trans-universal. When dealing with a karmic situation, it is useful to find the level at which it is operating
>human karma appears to be integrated into the evolutionary purpose of the planetary being itself
Earth humanity operates as an organ within the light body of the Logos that uses Earth as Its body of incarnation/manifestation. Where human activity/relationship/intent is contrary to the goals of their Logos, the Logos suffers discomfort and the Lords of Karma pressure the relevant humans and groups to change.
>aligning one's actions with the evolutionary intent of the planetary Logos rather than trying to petition them through ritual?
Quite so. Better not to pester the Logos. Better to get on with the relevant tasks - mostly about right relationship. Our planetary, systemic and galactic Logoi, in human terms are commonly called gods of love. Love, however, is a subset of right relationship.
Human spiritual practices seem to occur within the energy fields of various encompassing entities. Not all encompassing entities are suited to the development of our Logoi. Some encompassing entities come from the previous solar system when our god was a god of right energy.
Some human souls have yet to achieve the learnings of the previous solar system, so rightly work within the energies of such ancient beings.
Other humans cling to the old familiar ways and thereby slow the progress of the race and the planet. That generates group karma.
On a micro level, long ago I would see meditators taught Transcendental Meditation by a break-away group of initiators in London. Many they taught were not benefiting as the over-lighting entity/guru did not accept those meditators within its light body.
> the sound arises spontaneously within the subtle body rather than through vocal repetition.
That is how I was taught TM. After a couple of "advanced techniques" (mantra extensions) and decades of practice I saw that my mantra activated and soothed the chakra above the crown chakra, head chakra, throat, upper/cosmic heart, lower/personal heart, and upper solar plexus.
I still use TM to harmonize my system before heading out into the Cosmos. A harmonized system makes me more functional and easier to deal with.