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Original post: Dracophoenix

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Original post: Qryztufre

I've had some pretty ODD happenings involving the board and many of my friends will not touch one. A few refuse to even be in a house where one is in use!

How dangerous can the board really be?

Are there protections? (aside from knowing a few good Banishings)

Maybe some preparatory work that could be done, or maybe a system that could call 'nicer' entities?

Use of the board is INVOKATION, right? Or is it the board itself that gets "possessed"?

As I said, I have a few friends that fear the board...but I also have a few that are interested but hesitant. If I can come up with a few things to assist in making it safer I think I can get the group to use one, one of these days.

Thanks in advance to any that can answer my random thoughts fer the day.

Q

Original post: Dracophoenix

[QUOTE=Qryztufre]I've had some pretty ODD happenings involving the board and many of my friends will not touch one. A few refuse to even be in a house where one is in use!

How dangerous can the board really be?

Are there protections? (aside from knowing a few good Banishings)

Maybe some preparatory work that could be done, or maybe a system that could call 'nicer' entities?

Use of the board is INVOKATION, right? Or is it the board itself that gets "possessed"?

As I said, I have a few friends that fear the board...but I also have a few that are interested but hesitant. If I can come up with a few things to assist in making it safer I think I can get the group to use one, one of these days.

Thanks in advance to any that can answer my random thoughts fer the day.

Q
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Answers to your questions.

There are many dangers that can occur I've been on more clean up crews than care to remember. I've see people get possessed, go mad and those were truly the "nicer" things that happened on clean up duty. Banishings are there to get rid of troubles that occur they do othing prevent you and others from possible dangers.

If you make your own ouija board because you are pouring your own energy into making something for yourself it'll result in a safer tool.

Work in a very well warded area. If you don't feel safe, secure and comfortable in the area you're in then don't use a oiuja/divination board there. Pour all the protection wards into the board before you start working with it. Oil it with frankincense myrrh, smudge it, paint protective symbols on it ward it with truth and focus on it being well protected. Cast circle before using it. These aid inpreventing bad things from happening. Like brushing you teeth to aid in preventing cavities. You still might get a couple small cavities but at least you won't need root canal or dentures. Protections are the same way they lower the chances of bad things happening while working with a oiuja/ divination board.

Original post: HopelesslyLost

I have a story of using a Ouija board. I was with some friends one night just hanging out and a few of us decided to take out the ouija board and see what we got. Well as we proceeded we encountered a spirit which claimed to be the dead father of the ex-boyfriend of one of the girls using the board with me (my girlfriend). Well we talked to this spirit for a while and a myself and my girlfriend (i'll call her Maggi for now) proceeded to ask questions about the father or the boy that only myself or she would know the answers to. The board responded with correct answers and then gave us some info we did not like very much.


The board told us that on the way home that night, myself and maggi would witness her ex being hit while driving by a drunk driver and that we would run to him to be at his side and that he would die that night. Well after questioning eachother as to if someone was controlling it and playing a gross joke, we decided to end the session. That night on the way home nothing did happen and maggi's ex is still alive.

This was my first experience with a Ouija board and it scared me a bit as it did the rest of us using it that night. Just wanted to see what you all thought about this, maybe there is more meaning behind it than I am picking up.

Original post: daev

Hope,

Mabey because you guys knew he was supposed to die he didn't??

Original post: WindigoXXVIII

On the danger thing. I suggest turning off the computer when using the board. sometimes electrical things turn off and on.

Original post: seashore1989

Protection rituals and stuff seems very useful but how do you know when you have casted the circle properly and if any of the protection stuff has actually been casted?

Original post: Dracophoenix

For me, I can actually see the sphere around the area I'm in as well as the wardings. I can see when baneful energies and baneful entities try to get through but it's like they are walking right into a wall. I also feel more safe, secure, peaceful and relaxed in the area where circle has been cast and where protection wardings are. Sometimes it's like feeling that I have my own team of superheros right there at my personal call anytime day or night for any perils that may befall me. This is how I know when circle's been cast and there are protection wards up. However others have their own ways of telling. I'd be curious to hear other's methods of knowing as well. Since we don't all do things exactly the same way

Original post: Willowrain

I use the Ouija board quite a lot, i used it last night, i had to wait a little while before i got any response but when ive set it up myself with either letters and numbers written on pieces of paper or scrable alphabet and just an ordinary glass, i get results. I had a plastic board bought for me but have never had any results with that. As far as "bad spirits" are concerned, ive had no experiences with any. My friend said he once contacted a murderer and bad things happened with that which is scary, but ive not had that. Apparently youre supposed to cleanse the glass like put a candle flame to it or something so i do that and i also imagine white light around me and imagine my spirit guides are there looking after me and preventing anything bad from happening. Alot of times i get mumbled up writing that doesnt make any sense which is really frustrating, i think it depends on how spiritually developed you are because the best experience i had was with my friend who is a wiccan. I always start off by saying "Is there anybody who would like to make contact?" i always try to be friendly and courteous, and at the end i say "thank you for talking to me, goodbye". I dont see why you should get bad spirits i mean not as often as people make out, they are after all just passed on spirits of people, there are a few evil people in the world, but not that many. In my opinion youre as likely to meet an evil person in real life as with using the Ouija board. I guess demons etc could come through but i dont know how likely that is, but thats just my take on it. Also some advice i read on a website- never let the spirit go down the alphabet all around the board because they can apparently get out that way, and if they go to the four corners of the board then it means theyre evil. Dunno if thats true but i watch out for it! Just relax and be kind to the spirits and they can provide some useful information, but they can make things up and lie as well as the next person.

Original post: Jenfucius

Anyone ever read the book "OUIJA- THE MOST DANGEROUS GAME" by Stoker Hunt? Its pretty interesting book. If you can get a copy grab it.

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Heres a ouija story (not from the book).

http://paranormal.about.com/library/blstory_april99.htm

Dangerous Ouija by Lucia
Anyone thinking about using a Ouija Board should really read the book Ouija: The Most Dangerous Game in Town before attempting its use. Of course, I am speaking only from my own experience, but would never own one again. I am well aware of the need to protect oneself before working with any tool of divination. Yet I also feel that it is not always enough with Ouija, even with the best intentions. Unfortunately, before the knowledge of the negativity a Ouija board may bring, my daughter and her friend (ages 13 at the time) curiously took the board out one afternoon after school. I was in the kitchen and overhearing their laughter, I went to observe what was happening. They were just inquiring about friends, relatives etc., and seemed to be getting this info from a young entity. She called herself KATHERINE. And why I felt her to be a young girl, is the fact that whenever she answered a question she would begin by saying 'CAUSE rather than BECAUSE. In any event, the girls took the board out each day after school for about a week and it seemed to be cute entertainment... until I noticed they were becoming uneasy as the questions were no longer being answered, but rather this young entity's suggestions were being stated, and quite strongly at that. So I sat by and observed what was happening. The entity was trying to entice the girls in mischievous ways. There is no doubt that my daughter has mediumship ability. The planchette was moving at such a rapid pace from letter to letter that it took every second to follow it through in making its statements. It would be impossible for anyone to make this planchette move that quickly to make sentences. No doubt. The board was put away for awhile. A few weeks later, the girls tried it again, and for the first few minutes everything seemed alright. Then the planchette became very erratic and moved all over the board, so the girls asked who it was and the answer was KATHERINE. Much to my dismay, I then realized the harm that can come from Ouija. This entity was very persistent. The board was put away. Then one evening I had a few people for dinner, and the girls came running into the dining room as though they had seen a ghost. They were so frightened it took awhile to get their explanation. They had taken the board out again and after they had put it away, they went into the kitchen and asked a very typical 13-year-old type of question. They said if you are still here in the room with us please give us a sign. Well, I wasn't present in the room, but they swear that a knife flew across the kitchen counter, from one end to the other. That's when they panicked and ran out of the room. So the next day I sat with my daughter and began asking this KATHERINE a few questions. The language and messages addressed to me were horrible. I then began to assume that this entity knew I was an interference and, being protective of my daughter and her friend, did not want me there at all. KATHERINE began to use the repetitive statement DIE DIE DIE (addressed to me) and this just got worse and worse. And that planchette was flying. The board was destroyed. There are probably some people who are very spiritual who can tap into some wonderful insights from the Ouija, but I believe they are far and few.

Original post: Willowrain

scary story. ive heard quite a few stories like that, another tip i heard about "never ask it about god" and "never ask it when you are going to die". And as that story proves "never ask it to show a sign that it is there". Maybe some people are more susceptible to evil spirits, i duno, or maybe ive just not had a bad experience yet but might do soon. I think young people using it who dont really see it for what it is and just think its a game might be very susceptible because some spirits might want to influence them to do wrong or the spirit may become annoyed by the types of questions asked, but i am no expert.

Original post: seashore1989

I think that it's not very useful to contact spirits that you dont even know but when you use the Ouija board do you usually end up talking to a stranger even if you are trying to summon a relative instead? The psychic circle board is suppose to be a way to have a spirit tell you your fortune but it can be used to talk to spirits. Have anyone used the psychic board and have gotten positive or negative results from it?

Oh yea I started reading alot of bad things about the Ouija board and now I regret making my wooden Ouija Board. I made it like 2 years ago and it's in my bedroom now, collecting dust and stains. I'm afraid that something bad will happen even if I dont use the board.

Original post: Gwydion1400

People have asked if you can make one yourself and what's the proper way. The bord is only a tool, it holds no power at all, like all magick tools. I've successfully made one out of cardbord, but dont contact the dead with it, I use it to answer specific questions. I heard some people say that just making one yourself wont work because it isnt an actual Ouiji bord or whatever their reason, but the actual bords are made in some factory just like all other bord games, so it doesnt really have any more power than Mouse Trap. The only thing that I can think of that would make the storebought bord work better is your own reasoning and belief that it would work better.

Original post: sagitarian passion

I have played the quija for years. I know never to play it alone. Never drink or use drugs when using it, or when you are sick or pregnant. If the board begins to count from 0 to 9 or 9 to 0 a bad spirit is trying to come out of the board, or A to Z or Z to A. I have gotten a lot of good spirits and some that tortured my daughter mentally to get to me. .I through it away in a dumpster and when my mother in law was helping us move out she found it under some paper work in my pantry. I never believed anything about boards coming back but i guess they do. As soon as I touch it, it goes crazy and after a session I feel drained of energy for they need peoples energy to continue communicating with us. If you have any questions please ask and I can surly come up with answers. If I cannot answer I can do some research to my best knowledge. I do have to say many people have no ploblems when playing. When I used it I have in deed encountered the good and the bad. Now about the salt make a cirlcle around you and place the planchett upside down when you use it to keep evil spirits away and never leave the planchett on the board when your not using it, never be disrespectful for they are much powerful then us. And please never let your children grab a hold of it, My daughter did and that's when the hauntings began in our home and we were forced out of it. We could not take it mentally. Never ask when they passed away or show you a sign that they are there or god. NEVER PLAY WHERE SOMEONE HAS DIED A HORRIBLE DEATH OR AT A CEMETARY OR EVEN A MORTUARY OR BURIEL HOME.They also lie to get your attention and sometimes can take advantage of you as well.Sometimes it's funny because when you catch them lying they admit to it only the ones with a sence of humor. Always play with two or more people. Have fun but be respectful. Oh to aswer your question I own a spychic board and it's the same thing. It just looks different. None of the board are safer or better, you get the same response from all of them. I have owned over 5 diffrent ones and yes you may ask for a relative and 99 percent of the time you will always get someone you do not know. like Dracophoenix added please always use precaution the quija is not a game. Spirits can read your mind and body language and WHATEVER YOU PUT INTO THE QUIJA CAN BACKFIRE ON YOU OR YOUR LOVED ONES AT HOME.

Original post: Dracophoenix

Sagitarian Passion,

How is your daughter now? I hope she's doing better. You bring up some good points for using oiuja boards. I must add that one should use precautions when using oiuja boards. It's not a game it's a serious tool that should be respected.

Original post: sagitarian passion

She is doing fine although she has not forgotten. She was only 6 years old. This happened last may. She played and the board went crazy. I made the mistake of leaving it out with the planchett on the top. IT went crazy for her and within a few minutes she went to use the restroom before I put her in bed and The medicine cabinet that has sliding mirrors began to slide open and shut and shook so hard everything came out of it. I found her frozen with fear in place. I left the house for that night with my 3 daughters and returned home the next day. Then she would complain of knocking on her head board and her bed shaking. I was scared for her. Everything is now fine.

Original post: Dracophoenix

It's good everything's ok now

Original post: sagitarian passion

thank you so much. Like I said if anyone has questions about the quija i pretty much know it all. I have a lot of scary stories. I can post one every 2 weeks for a while. I just want people to be safe and ask me questions before you play, if it's your first time or if something is going wrong. My daughter is alright but she is terrified of the dark now thanks to my stupidity. I was also haunted by breathing in my room, my room door shaking vilontly before entering, opening the door and seeing an aparition standing on the other side of my bed and also waking up with bruises in form of hand prints and finger prints. I desided it was time to leave when I had my home blessed with holy olive oil. I left my home that night just in case i made them mad. I also left at home the remainder of the holy oil on my kitchen counter. The next day I came back and I had a mans hand print on my television, kitchen counter, and on the picture of jesus made with the holy oil i had in my kitchen. I must also add that I had lost my cell phone the day of the blessing and found it hanging on my wall.

Original post: PhoenixR

I have a question: if most of the spirits communicating with us through the boards are lying anyway, why should we even bother? If 98 times out of every 100 times we picked up a phone to call someone we got someone else, we'd give up on the phone system, right? Not to mention the possibilities of hauntings, as mentioned by sagitarian passion. I could liken that possibility to wandering too near a large, toothsome dog. He might seem peaceful at the moment but I don't want to get too close and find out differently. It's just starting to seem pointless to me, I guess. Oh well.

If I recall correctly, the Psychic Circle board is said to attract 'nicer' spirits than the ouija. Is that likely or even possible?

PhoenixR

Original post: sagitarian passion

To aswer your question It depends on the person whether or not you get the spirit you want or not at all. It is pointless but the excitement of speaking to someone from the other side is what makes us not only curious but wanting more. Like I said all boards are the same. It depends on the person and persons energy whether you bring good or bad to it. I hope that aswered your question. I must add you get some truth but mostly lies. It's better to contact someone you know very well so that you know wether you got the right spirit or not. Then go from there. I wish you luck. Don't give up. All I have to say is try it with someone you know and if you have one bad experience or don't feel good about it just stop.It's never likely or impossible to get nicer spirits of any board. Your experience may be a lot better than mine. I made a few mistakes when playing which caused all those problems, like leaving the planchett on when not using it which means any other spirit could have come to the board without me calling it.

Original post: Dracophoenix

Sagitarian Passion,

I completely agree with you I have been on too many clean up crews over the years. I could share some horror stories too.


There was this one girl who was possessed by some nasties that came through the ouija board. The group I was with was able to help her but barely by the skin of teeth. The nasties did a number on her psyche and it drained us all for 3 months. She made the mistakes of using a ouija board alone in a cemetary on Samhain because she thought it would be cool to do.

I want people to be safe too and feel free to ask questions to us here. There is no such thing as a stupid question

Original post: sagitarian passion

I agree. I have a friend that was also possesed. She will never touch the quija ever again. Like I said if something does not feel right just stop using it. Always trust your instincts. Please ask questions. Dracophoenix you are right, there are never any stupid questions. I rather it be stupid than someone writing us back with problems from not asking.

Original post: Jenfucius

One thing for sure if you are going to use a ouija its always good to do a closing ritual of some sort and make sure that portal is closed. Its good to also have some incense around to do a cleansing if need to be.

A book that I highly recomend is: "EXORCISM--How To Clear At A Distance A Spirit Possessed Person". by Eugene Maurey
Whitford Press, 1988
Note: Its out of print so if you see a copy grab it. In my opinion its one of the best book around on the topic of exorcism (in particular distance exorcism). Anyone into the occult should at least know how to do an exorcism -just in case.

This is from the book "Explains how the exorcism of a spirit is performed at a distance, not in the presence of the client. It traces the normal progression of death and why a normal death sometimes does not occur, resulting in the spirit of the dead person becoming earthbound, and seeking a living host. This book explores a fairly simple, safe and effective way of performing an exorcism, and details the signs of possession."

One thing I found interesting was that there are different kinds of possession. There are subtle forms of possession as describe in the book and then there are full blown types of possession like in the movie we all know of and had nightmares about- The Exorcist (which are rare).

A site that I recomend would be: http://www.warrens.net/

They are demonologists. Possession from demons are different than earth bound ghosts. The Warrens are quite well known and you may have seen them on TV. They were also in that recent documentry/movie: A Haunting In Connecticut and also A Haunting In Georgia. Scarry stuff!

(Maybe I should do a topic on exorcism as it seems more fitting.)

Original post: sagitarian passion

Thanks for the info. I do think it's a good idea for your protection. If you start a board I will certainly look into it. I think that stuff is interesting and surtainly happens. My father told me I had a mild exorsism done at the age of 10 or 11 but they won't discuss anything with me

Original post: Jenfucius

I will probably do a topic about it tomorrow when I get more time on the computer. You are right this is an interesting topic and something worthy to talk about.
One of my friend's had a exorcism done to his house it was really haunted. (More later)