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"Amorte,

Let us not argue about other people's perspectives, because it doesn't lead anywhere,in my opinion.

If members wish to discuss my opinions and my experience, send me a PM."

How I interpret what you said.

I have no wish to send you a pm and will post any further commentary I might choose to make here on the forum.Others may do as they wish also,however it suits them. I have a different perspective from yours on this matter,that is all.

None of the members here should feel under any pressure to share anything more or less,for that matter also,than they are comfortable about sharing,whether it's demanded of them or not.


Moving on a little.

There are various topics here on the forum which contain information from me and also from other members about second sight and clairvoyancy/supersensory awarenesses and subjects otherwise similar to those.
I 've posted about my practices and working methods all over the folders,as the circumstances and subject matter dictated it.I have a lot of posts here made over the last three years and another 500 or so archived posts here under my former username from the old OF days too.

I do as I do and it works for me,but there is no one size fits all uniformity to this as far as I can tell and I 've been observing,working with and talking with other Occultists about this area of practice for quite a long time now.I 've been doing this most,if not all of my life and it took me a long time to settle into it,I do not consider myself any kind of expert,I'm a journeyman at best; and I 'm still learning as I go.

I do say beware of certainty and uniformity,as they can stifle growth.I stand by that statement,always.

People vary and though we have a commonality of experiences,we filter and process those experiences according to our own inner mechansims and externalised cultural and social norms,customs and expectations.These can differ widely,so this is what I mean when I apply the term [IMV];

Know thyself.

Master who you are and everything else can open up to you.It's your mind to work with and it has fantastic possibilites contained within,the only limit is the limit of your creativity and imagination.It takes effort and time to understand yourself,on this journey of self discovery that is life,but I think it 's a vital step on the path,the mastering of self awareness and gaining autonomy of spirit.

I have a lot of posts here made over the last three years and another 500 or so archived posts here under my former username from the old OF days too.
My profile page here describes my habits and homegrounds also,lol.I 'm not exactly hiding here.You just have to look to see me.

We have a search feature also,at the top of the index page,this accesses both older topics from here and topics from the OF archives.Was there really nothing of use anywhere there?

Hmm,one person's useful might be another persons useless and you know what,that's ok,as it is all about perspective,in the end,anyway.And this was mine.

This ain't gonna end well.

Amorte Nahemah,

None of the members here should feel under any pressure to share anything more or less,for that matter also,than they are comfortable about sharing,whether it's demanded of them or not.

This is a double edged sword, that can one day turn against people who don't want to share knowledge.

Anyway, my point is that our posts here are irrelevant to the topic. Surely we know better than to argue on the forum?

There are various topics here on the forum which contain information from me and also from other members about second sight and clairvoyancy/supersensory awarenesses and subjects otherwise similar to those.
I 've posted about my practices and working methods all over the folders,as the circumstances and subject matter dictated it.I have a lot of posts here made over the last three years and another 500 or so archived posts here under my former username from the old OF days too.

We have a search feature also,at the top of the index page,this accesses both older topics from here and topics from the OF archives.Was there really nothing of use anywhere there?

Posts that I have seen refer to claivoyance/precognition as in indirect method by terminology I am using. I have already developed some techniques on my own, but the problem is still the same - they take a long time of training to produce accurate results.

What Adonis and me are looking for, and hopefully working with him will provide answer, are means of triggering crystal clear, 100% accurate visions, as happens randomly for us. This is what I call direct method and to my best knowledge there are no techniques for that described over the internet. Or maybe I am missing some exotic keywords.

Regards,

Adonismanchet,
I'm sorry to read how far from your original topic this Thread has drifted.

I was once married to a woman who, three days before 9/11, had three consecutive nights of nightmares about flaming buildings and people falling to their deaths, so I fully believe in precognitive abilities. My understanding too is that these things often impose themselves upon us without our intention or deliberate force of Will, and that coming to terms with this new condition of existence can be really disconcerting, particularly if one comes from an environment rich in religious dogma.

First of all, you are not going to go to Hell for trying to know yourself better. The history of Occult studies is indeed long and varied, and within our own European cultural framework there have certainly been many many scholars and magicians who were devout Christians, and even Catholics, who were never prosecuted or persecuted by Rome. I wouldn't worry about it, it's not a dogmatic thing and happens to people everywhere regardless of religio/cultural affiliation. Perhaps if you need to put it into a more familiar context, you could think of it as You simply trying to understand a natural gift bestowed upon you by God.

Secondly, these things tend to be like muscles or skills, or anything else we do as human beings.
Practice, practice, practice!
If you permit yourself to "go with it" when these visions occur, and resist the temptation to pass judgement on yourself, or the occurrence/episode, you will likely find in time that you gain more control over your ability, and in so doing experience a greater degree of comfort.
That's how we humans learn things: by concentrating and repeating. Piano, cooking, language, anything.

Finally, in spite of the disagreements that have erupted in this Thread I have seen one piece of advice that I totally agree with:
Get yourself a Journal or a diary; something small enough to pack with you when you're out and about. Write everything down as it occurs, and with as much detail as you can, and as close to the episode as you can.
It goes with what I was saying about practice, and will actually help retroactively to make you more observant during your visionary experiences. Also, it will give you a tangible means of monitoring your accuracy later on without having to rely on your own memory after events have occurred; themselves subject to degradation over time, or distortion due to uncontrolled emotional response, etc..

Just some thoughts... [geek2]
Peas.

Forums are for the purpose of discussion,sometimes ideas get challenged,theories debated and discourse gets heated.As long as it's the ideas and perspectives that are challenged or attacked and not the person making them,then we should not be afraid of a little conflict.

The topic has drifted out a bit,yes,but the drift was still quite relevant to the subject matter,so far.

I doubt that 100% accuracy is an attainable goal,I really do and I do not believe that this ability can be reduced into one narrowly defined set of parameters,one size fits all.
And If there's no accounting for random variables or room for error margins,that means that the methodology actually isn't all that scientific,in the end,surely?

On that note,I'll shut up now.

Amorte,

Nahemah wrote: I doubt that 100% accuracy is an attainable goal,I really do and I do not believe that this ability can be reduced into one narrowly defined set of parameters,one size fits all.
And If there's no accounting for random variables or room for error margins,that means that the methodology actually isn't all that scientific,in the end,surely?

Nahemah, have you ever experienced that sort of visions? Unlike precognition trance, it is not subtle "feeling" or a random thought. It is like watching a recording of things that are yet to pass, exact images, exact people, exact words etc.
Should you read my theory in my topic, you may find my proposed explanation surprising. It would also explain why random variables may not be so random after all.

Anyway, tomorrow I will send Adonis some more info on what should he do next, we will see what will happen. I hope for the best. Irony in discovering how to control that gift is this: that once we know the future we can change it. And if more and more people will do so, the less predictable the future will become.

Regards,