Oh, no, you misunderstand - I approve entirely. Handing him the Liber Lilith book was a grand move. I find some problems with his idea -- subsuming his Self in some sort of strange sex play with his mistress seems The High Of Retarded - but I wouldn't do it myself. At least this guy has a plan, which is more than most folks have.hobotubbie wrote:what.. I gave him my opinion on the matter aswell. But it's not like the book is like forbidden knowledge to the common mortal and you will desintegrate 10 minutes after you read it. You can even find it online for frees.
Maybe it's not that beggining but there is not that much you can recommend to someone, i mean, what do you recommend then?
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If you are new to Magick and want to learn evocation in general:
Recommended books : Summoning Spirits by Konstantino's - good book on building the foundations of magical development and theory and then applying it and making your first evocation. It is geared towards results.
Franz Bardon - Initiation into hermetics - Franz Bardon is a legend in the occult world and this book is fantastic on the theory and gaining the magical development needed for evocation and much more
Modern Magick - Eleven lessons in the high Magickal arts - Donald Kraig - Probably the best all rounder book and would be my choice.
EA Koetting : Works of Darkness - This is more the left hand approach and if it is your thing then it would be another of my first choices.
If my memory serves me correctly Lilith personally does not like to be evoked. OP if you truly wanted to and feel her calling out to you then you should read Liber Lilith. It is a amazing book and gives you insights into how Lilith works. If you decide to take this route then know that Lilith WON'T take second place in your life. She also will not let you have sex with this 'mistress' of yours. I would advise buying the book though as it comes with the journal and the journal gives you more hints into successfully working the text.
I have spoke to people who have worked Liber Lilith and they have told me it is like jumping into a roaring ocean.
Just remember again that Lilith will not take second place in your life.
Recommended books : Summoning Spirits by Konstantino's - good book on building the foundations of magical development and theory and then applying it and making your first evocation. It is geared towards results.
Franz Bardon - Initiation into hermetics - Franz Bardon is a legend in the occult world and this book is fantastic on the theory and gaining the magical development needed for evocation and much more
Modern Magick - Eleven lessons in the high Magickal arts - Donald Kraig - Probably the best all rounder book and would be my choice.
EA Koetting : Works of Darkness - This is more the left hand approach and if it is your thing then it would be another of my first choices.
If my memory serves me correctly Lilith personally does not like to be evoked. OP if you truly wanted to and feel her calling out to you then you should read Liber Lilith. It is a amazing book and gives you insights into how Lilith works. If you decide to take this route then know that Lilith WON'T take second place in your life. She also will not let you have sex with this 'mistress' of yours. I would advise buying the book though as it comes with the journal and the journal gives you more hints into successfully working the text.
I have spoke to people who have worked Liber Lilith and they have told me it is like jumping into a roaring ocean.
Just remember again that Lilith will not take second place in your life.
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Not just terrible, but tuuuurrible. I NEVER recommend that piece of crap book to anybody!shogunronin wrote:Modern Magick - Eleven lessons in the high Magickal arts - Donald Kraig - Probably the best all rounder book and would be my choice.
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So close and yet so far. You could dump pretty much this entire list in favor of Koetting's Evoking Eternity.shogunronin wrote:If you are new to Magick and want to learn evocation in general:
Recommended books : Summoning Spirits by Konstantino's - good book on building the foundations of magical development and theory and then applying it and making your first evocation. It is geared towards results.
Franz Bardon - Initiation into hermetics - Franz Bardon is a legend in the occult world and this book is fantastic on the theory and gaining the magical development needed for evocation and much more
Modern Magick - Eleven lessons in the high Magickal arts - Donald Kraig - Probably the best all rounder book and would be my choice.
EA Koetting : Works of Darkness - This is more the left hand approach and if it is your thing then it would be another of my first choices.
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I haven't had a chance to read his evoking eternity just yet but its on a personal literature hit list of mine.
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It's damned good! Buy it and read it post-haste! [yay]
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I have read most of those books, liber lilith included..
I have evoked lilith it makes sometime now that i did such..
I had what i wished for.
And it is a continous plan! So i am onto it..
I have evoked lilith it makes sometime now that i did such..
I had what i wished for.
And it is a continous plan! So i am onto it..
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Oh, no, you misunderstand - I approve entirely. Handing him the Liber Lilith book was a grand move. I find some problems with his idea -- [glow]subsuming his Self in some sort of strange sex play with his mistress seems The High Of Retarded - [/glow]but I wouldn't do it myself. At least this guy has a plan, which is more than most folks have.
It has very little to do with sex..
And it is not game to play..
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/snickerssunas wrote:Oh, no, you misunderstand - I approve entirely. Handing him the Liber Lilith book was a grand move. I find some problems with his idea -- [glow]subsuming his Self in some sort of strange sex play with his mistress seems The High Of Retarded - [/glow]but I wouldn't do it myself. At least this guy has a plan, which is more than most folks have.
It has very little to do with sex..
And it is not game to play..
Grats on making a choice and sticking with it. It's more than most do with their magical "practice."
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I had a time in which i had to choose, either dedicate myself to do this, or not do it at all..
I decided to do it, so it is all the way to the end..there is no going back.
I decided to do it, so it is all the way to the end..there is no going back.
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Should I hit the applause button for you?
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I guess not, no one should be applauded for something that is quite normal, at least as i see it..
This is not some childs play..whenever one starts doing magic, it should think that it is a one way forward, there is not retur and the more times you deviate from that path the worst the ending will be..so the best way is just to stick with the initial plan, the reason why that persons started doing magic in the first place.
No ?
This is not some childs play..whenever one starts doing magic, it should think that it is a one way forward, there is not retur and the more times you deviate from that path the worst the ending will be..so the best way is just to stick with the initial plan, the reason why that persons started doing magic in the first place.
No ?
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Deviation from will teaches the will weakness - there's a simple way out that doesn't require effort.
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Indeed! I know this is probably not the right place to ask but..
Do you..or anyone..knows..
What is the best way to evoke a Goddess ? I would like to evoke Astarte
Do you..or anyone..knows..
What is the best way to evoke a Goddess ? I would like to evoke Astarte

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Wouldn't Lilith get jealous?
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No she wouldn't i don't have a direct relationship with her.
I have with one of her daughters..
No matter with whom i deviate myself with in my path..humans or not..
at the end is what matters..the more i deviate myself with i think probably better i will be, the more ready i will be for what is to come next.
I have with one of her daughters..
No matter with whom i deviate myself with in my path..humans or not..
at the end is what matters..the more i deviate myself with i think probably better i will be, the more ready i will be for what is to come next.
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Oh, yes, that's right -- your mistress is supposed to be a lilim, or somesuch thing.
Look up her correspondences and call her into a triangle or something. It's like any other spirit.
Look up her correspondences and call her into a triangle or something. It's like any other spirit.
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succubi
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Whatever you want to call her, I don't care.
So why are you looking for Astarte now?
So why are you looking for Astarte now?
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It doesn't really matter yes..
I am looking for astarte because i can feel her..because i know that this is a magical place where i am living and i might be leaving it soon, i want to get connected with her before leaving.
I am looking for astarte because i can feel her..because i know that this is a magical place where i am living and i might be leaving it soon, i want to get connected with her before leaving.
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Well, go look up a list of her correspondences and go to the most magical "feeling" (ie, the most Astarte-connected) spot. After laying out your offerings just calling her name over and over as a chant will work fine, especially if she already has an interest in you. Use a mirror to see if you can see her - and whatever shows up, make sure to ask for its driver's license. There are a lot of trolls in the astral, too.
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Where would i find such a list ? i have tried searching here in the forums but seems there isn't anything ..there is already a temple to her here in the island..
That's where i should go
That's where i should go

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Actual temple to Astarte? You lucky bastard.
I understand the trouble looking for material on Astarte, because if you Google it you'll get a bunch of horseshit that the Wiccans produced. Luckily, though, the OTO has a fetish for Astarte. Liber 777 is the master book of correspondences, but it's basically just tables. I'd start there, and trawl through OTO shit in general. That would probably be your best bet.
I understand the trouble looking for material on Astarte, because if you Google it you'll get a bunch of horseshit that the Wiccans produced. Luckily, though, the OTO has a fetish for Astarte. Liber 777 is the master book of correspondences, but it's basically just tables. I'd start there, and trawl through OTO shit in general. That would probably be your best bet.
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Was just looking at it right now..lol
And yes..an actual temple..quite old too..seems perfect.
And yes..an actual temple..quite old too..seems perfect.
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Are you talking about the Temple of Astarte that's out there in Silverado, CA?