Original post: SekhemNefer
[QUOTE=Vindictus;374202]James bond is a freaking fop. AND insecure in his sexuality [Why else does he need to screw every chick he meets?][/QUOTE]
Maybe he likes screwing chicks. Oh, don't tell me that a man who loves sex is unmanly. Btw, it is a movie. Sex sells. James Bond needs to screw everybody. What is a point in having a hero who can't get the girl?
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[QUOTE=Achreus;374185]Is magick manly?[/QUOTE]
Ceremonial magick is associated with old bearded patriarchs. I know of no grimoire written by a woman or that prominently mentions one.
The Arbatel mentions that the Romans used the magick of the Sybillines to gain power, but earthly power is considered in the Arbatel to be a lower form of magick.
[INDENT]The word sibyl probably comes (via Latin) from the Greek word sibylla, meaning prophetess. (Other schools of thought suggest that the word may have come from Arabic.) The earlier oracular seeresses known as the sibyls of antiquity, "who admittedly are known only through legend" (Burkert 1985 p 117) prophesied at certain holy sites, probably all of pre-Indo-European origin[citation needed], under the divine influence of a deity, originally one of the chthonic earth-goddesses. Later in antiquity, sibyls wandered from place to place.[/INDENT]
source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibyl
One usually associates witchcraft with women or gay men; and Wicca, despite its having been founded by a man.
Vampyre covens, which may use magick, are often headed by women.
All the chaos writers I know of are men: Carroll, Spare, Hine, Sherwin...
Most of the Satanist churches I know of were founded by men: Lavey, Aquino...
[QUOTE=Achreus;374185]Is magick manly?[/QUOTE]
Ceremonial magick is associated with old bearded patriarchs. I know of no grimoire written by a woman or that prominently mentions one.
The Arbatel mentions that the Romans used the magick of the Sybillines to gain power, but earthly power is considered in the Arbatel to be a lower form of magick.
[INDENT]The word sibyl probably comes (via Latin) from the Greek word sibylla, meaning prophetess. (Other schools of thought suggest that the word may have come from Arabic.) The earlier oracular seeresses known as the sibyls of antiquity, "who admittedly are known only through legend" (Burkert 1985 p 117) prophesied at certain holy sites, probably all of pre-Indo-European origin[citation needed], under the divine influence of a deity, originally one of the chthonic earth-goddesses. Later in antiquity, sibyls wandered from place to place.[/INDENT]
source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibyl
One usually associates witchcraft with women or gay men; and Wicca, despite its having been founded by a man.
Vampyre covens, which may use magick, are often headed by women.
All the chaos writers I know of are men: Carroll, Spare, Hine, Sherwin...
Most of the Satanist churches I know of were founded by men: Lavey, Aquino...
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Original post: Vindictus
Has anyone ever actually tested this? It shouldn't be too hard... make a list of 'Unmanly' traits and check to see if people who dislike Bond have more of them then other people.
Maybe he likes screwing chicks. Oh, don't tell me that a man who loves sex is unmanly. Btw, it is a movie. Sex sells. James Bond needs to screw everybody. What is a point in having a hero who can't get the girl?
... Shit, do I have to say I'm joking every time I tell a joke? Okay, answering in order- No, the desire to bang every atractive female in a thousand mile radius is not unmanly, a fop is somebody who pays WAY to much attention to their looks and clothes, and I do indeed like to get laid... FANBOY.What the hell's a fop? So you don't like to get laid? Ok. Well if getting laid by beautiful, intelligent, classy women makes someone insecure about their sexuality then damn I must be a real homophobe since I've had great sexual experiences with beautiful women.
Oh well. Call me a fanboy
Prove it. :evil:IAO131;374359 wrote:93,
People who criticize James Bond are unmanly.
IAO131
Has anyone ever actually tested this? It shouldn't be too hard... make a list of 'Unmanly' traits and check to see if people who dislike Bond have more of them then other people.
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[QUOTE=Achreus;374289]Here's what I think. Magick is a lot of things and one of those things is manliness. It requires the virtues of discipline, volition, perseverance and courage to make it work. If that's not manly, I don't know what is.
To put it simply: yeah, magick is manly enough.[/QUOTE]
But it also requires tact, grace, understanding and beauty! The traits of a beautiful woman.
[QUOTE=Achreus;374289]Here's what I think. Magick is a lot of things and one of those things is manliness. It requires the virtues of discipline, volition, perseverance and courage to make it work. If that's not manly, I don't know what is.
To put it simply: yeah, magick is manly enough.[/QUOTE]
But it also requires tact, grace, understanding and beauty! The traits of a beautiful woman.
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Original post: Achreus
Therefore we're both right. Like I said, magick is many things therefore, by technicality, it's manly.QuietJoy;374391 wrote:But it also requires tact, grace, understanding and beauty! The traits of a beautiful woman.
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Right. Just not predominantly. That would be unbalanced, and would defeat the purpose of why we do it in the first place.
Right. Just not predominantly. That would be unbalanced, and would defeat the purpose of why we do it in the first place.
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[QUOTE=QuietJoy;374404]Right. Just not predominantly. That would be unbalanced, and would defeat the purpose of why we do it in the first place.[/QUOTE]
you mean for money, sex and power?
[QUOTE=QuietJoy;374404]Right. Just not predominantly. That would be unbalanced, and would defeat the purpose of why we do it in the first place.[/QUOTE]
you mean for money, sex and power?
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[QUOTE=White Ghost;374368]Ceremonial magick is associated with old bearded patriarchs. I know of no grimoire written by a woman or that prominently mentions one.
One usually associates witchcraft with women or gay men; and Wicca, despite its having been founded by a man.
Vampyre covens, which may use magick, are often headed by women.
All the chaos writers I know of are men: Carroll, Spare, Hine, Sherwin...
Most of the Satanist churches I know of were founded by men: Lavey, Aquino...[/QUOTE]
This is perhaps the most absurd assertion I've read on this forum.
WhiteGhost, either you are a rabid sexist trying to promulgate a twisted hidden agenda to denigrate women in Magick, or you are completely culturally illiterate when it comes to the contemporary history of Western Magick...
Women in Ceremonial Magick and Chaos Magick:
http://www.goetia-girls.com/homepage.html
http://www.jaqdhawkins.co.uk/Books.php
(BTW, Jaq is perhaps one of the most LUCID current writers on Chaos Magick)
The current incarnation of the Zee List (a Yahoo group) has a LARGE population of active, lucid, and insightful women, who make up a high percentage of the regular posters, and seem to have a really good read on the 21st century Chaos current, and have a lot of good ideas as far as reality-hacking, ritual design, and technique development.
How about the current contributions of women to Satanism/DarkSide Magick? Ever hear of:
Leila Waddell (Lilith/Azazel author), Karla LaVey (Anton's first-borne daughter, and founder of First Satanic Church), Blanche Barton (current head of CoS), or Zeena Schreck (daughter of Anton LaVey and astoundingly lucid author on SexMagick).
Heck, a good argument can be made that Satanism is practically DOMINATED by women these days--most of the "real" Satanists I've ever met are women--most of the men I've met who call themselves Satanists are just wankers and poseurs. (maybe I'm just unlucky that way, but it's been my experience.) I'll admit that my personal experiences ARE anecdotal, but when you look at who is actually RUNNING most of the "official" Satanist groups out there these days, the VAST majority of them that are actually DOING anything are being headed up by Women.
You didn't mention the OTO. I can tell you, and I know this as FACT, that in the US OTO, the ONLY groups that are maintaining active memberships, growing their ranks, and either already own their own property or are working quickly toward that goal are Lodges that are either headed up by Women, or have a majority of women members, like Blake Lodge in the Baltimore MD, and Scarlet Women Lodge in Austin TX. In fact, if it weren't for these two lodges, and their contributions, the Caliphate OTO in the USA would be nearing complete bankruptcy, financially AND Magickally...
As far as Witches and covens being generally associated with Women and Gay Men, then, bro, you have some SERIOUS issues with that perception, or else the covens you've been exposed to are just NOT the norm. I've worked with covens that had bikers, blacksmiths, active-duty Army Rangers, and EMT's. Pretty "manly" by your definition. Most of the covens I've worked with are VERY balanced as far as masculine and feminine energy, and aren't hampered or constrained by these sexist preconceptions of male and female "roles". The Witches I know tend to be pretty open-minded when it comes to societal roles, and don't let things like Victorian Sexist programming set their place in the world, or in their Magickal Circles.
Witchcraft has gotten a bad rap for the last 10 years or so, ESPECIALLY West-Coast Witchcraft in the US, due to it's infiltration by Radical Feminists with their propaganda agenda of Historical Revisionism, which is even MORE historically and factually flawed that the rubbish published by the Victorians that they sought to replace. This feminist propaganda has given the general public the idea that all witches are feminist nutcases, who believe in some sort of Matriarchal Eutopia in the ancient past, and who blame all the ills of modern society on the phallus-waving Patriarchal Rapists who have controlled the whole world for the last 2000 years. If you REALLY look at balanced covens, and practitioners of "traditional" Wicca and well-functioning Eclectic covens, you will find that most of them are pretty balanced as far as sex and gender go, and tend to be more concerned with each individual's powers and skills than some sort of Victorian preconceptions about sex roles and gender placement...
As far as grimoires not being written by women, I'd venture to say that this might have something to do with the fact that most Grimoires were written in the Medieval era, when it was a CRIME punishable by DEATH in most cultures (Chrirstian, Arabic, and even some Jewish cultures) for women to be able to read and write. Perhaps ENFORCED illiteracy has something to do with that, eh? On the other hand, there ARE several Apocryphal books from the New Testament that WERE penned by women, and most of them are pretty magickal, like the Book of Mary. There is also speculation that the accepted gospels of Mark and Luke were penned by women, judging by their subject matter...
I'm not trying to be some sort of neo-feminist historical revisionist, and I CERTAINLY don't believe in the whole "all patriarchy is evil" worldview espoused by some of the more radical Dianic types these days, but your views of women in Magick are simply bizarre, and show that you either have a dangerously sexist agenda, or are sadly culturally illiterate and unaware.
You REALLY need to re-evaluate your positions on sex, gender, societal roles, and social programming. One of these days you're going to make one of these ridiculous statements in front of somebody who is going to take it PERSONALLY, and you're going to get smacked down, either physically or Magickally...
And what is this obsession with the word "manly" anyway? What the hell does "manly" even mean? From the way you've described it, it sounds like "Manly" means some sort of overcompensation for repressed homosexual urges, with regards to your James Bond references, and anti-gay/anti-female remarks. And all that stuff about "integrity, dedication, etc" is just ridiculous. Have you ever seen a mother protecting her child? I think THAT is perhaps the most fearful, powerful, agressive forces in the universe--a mother protecting her child. Now THAT is a force to be reckoned with...
Asking "is Magick Manly" is like asking if penises are gay...
Yes it is (they are), if you want to (or need to) see it that way.
But in and of itself, Magick is no more or less Manly than dancing, blacksmithing, baking, plowing a field, Ikebana, or being able to double-tap a .45acp...
The whole concept of "manly" has no place in the mind of a free-thinking 21st century human, and is PARTICULARLY egregious coming from someone who professes to be a practitioner of Magick--a path that is SUPPOSED to be aimed at personal development, cultural evolution, and personal mind-expansion.
Dude, you need to SERIOUSLY adjust your attitude, and open your mind a little. You've obviously got access to the Internet--maybe you should actually USE IT to look at someting outside of this forum now and then. There is some REALLY interesting stuff out there, and a LOT of it has been created by women...
--Funquie
[QUOTE=White Ghost;374368]Ceremonial magick is associated with old bearded patriarchs. I know of no grimoire written by a woman or that prominently mentions one.
One usually associates witchcraft with women or gay men; and Wicca, despite its having been founded by a man.
Vampyre covens, which may use magick, are often headed by women.
All the chaos writers I know of are men: Carroll, Spare, Hine, Sherwin...
Most of the Satanist churches I know of were founded by men: Lavey, Aquino...[/QUOTE]
This is perhaps the most absurd assertion I've read on this forum.
WhiteGhost, either you are a rabid sexist trying to promulgate a twisted hidden agenda to denigrate women in Magick, or you are completely culturally illiterate when it comes to the contemporary history of Western Magick...
Women in Ceremonial Magick and Chaos Magick:
http://www.goetia-girls.com/homepage.html
http://www.jaqdhawkins.co.uk/Books.php
(BTW, Jaq is perhaps one of the most LUCID current writers on Chaos Magick)
The current incarnation of the Zee List (a Yahoo group) has a LARGE population of active, lucid, and insightful women, who make up a high percentage of the regular posters, and seem to have a really good read on the 21st century Chaos current, and have a lot of good ideas as far as reality-hacking, ritual design, and technique development.
How about the current contributions of women to Satanism/DarkSide Magick? Ever hear of:
Leila Waddell (Lilith/Azazel author), Karla LaVey (Anton's first-borne daughter, and founder of First Satanic Church), Blanche Barton (current head of CoS), or Zeena Schreck (daughter of Anton LaVey and astoundingly lucid author on SexMagick).
Heck, a good argument can be made that Satanism is practically DOMINATED by women these days--most of the "real" Satanists I've ever met are women--most of the men I've met who call themselves Satanists are just wankers and poseurs. (maybe I'm just unlucky that way, but it's been my experience.) I'll admit that my personal experiences ARE anecdotal, but when you look at who is actually RUNNING most of the "official" Satanist groups out there these days, the VAST majority of them that are actually DOING anything are being headed up by Women.
You didn't mention the OTO. I can tell you, and I know this as FACT, that in the US OTO, the ONLY groups that are maintaining active memberships, growing their ranks, and either already own their own property or are working quickly toward that goal are Lodges that are either headed up by Women, or have a majority of women members, like Blake Lodge in the Baltimore MD, and Scarlet Women Lodge in Austin TX. In fact, if it weren't for these two lodges, and their contributions, the Caliphate OTO in the USA would be nearing complete bankruptcy, financially AND Magickally...
As far as Witches and covens being generally associated with Women and Gay Men, then, bro, you have some SERIOUS issues with that perception, or else the covens you've been exposed to are just NOT the norm. I've worked with covens that had bikers, blacksmiths, active-duty Army Rangers, and EMT's. Pretty "manly" by your definition. Most of the covens I've worked with are VERY balanced as far as masculine and feminine energy, and aren't hampered or constrained by these sexist preconceptions of male and female "roles". The Witches I know tend to be pretty open-minded when it comes to societal roles, and don't let things like Victorian Sexist programming set their place in the world, or in their Magickal Circles.
Witchcraft has gotten a bad rap for the last 10 years or so, ESPECIALLY West-Coast Witchcraft in the US, due to it's infiltration by Radical Feminists with their propaganda agenda of Historical Revisionism, which is even MORE historically and factually flawed that the rubbish published by the Victorians that they sought to replace. This feminist propaganda has given the general public the idea that all witches are feminist nutcases, who believe in some sort of Matriarchal Eutopia in the ancient past, and who blame all the ills of modern society on the phallus-waving Patriarchal Rapists who have controlled the whole world for the last 2000 years. If you REALLY look at balanced covens, and practitioners of "traditional" Wicca and well-functioning Eclectic covens, you will find that most of them are pretty balanced as far as sex and gender go, and tend to be more concerned with each individual's powers and skills than some sort of Victorian preconceptions about sex roles and gender placement...
As far as grimoires not being written by women, I'd venture to say that this might have something to do with the fact that most Grimoires were written in the Medieval era, when it was a CRIME punishable by DEATH in most cultures (Chrirstian, Arabic, and even some Jewish cultures) for women to be able to read and write. Perhaps ENFORCED illiteracy has something to do with that, eh? On the other hand, there ARE several Apocryphal books from the New Testament that WERE penned by women, and most of them are pretty magickal, like the Book of Mary. There is also speculation that the accepted gospels of Mark and Luke were penned by women, judging by their subject matter...
I'm not trying to be some sort of neo-feminist historical revisionist, and I CERTAINLY don't believe in the whole "all patriarchy is evil" worldview espoused by some of the more radical Dianic types these days, but your views of women in Magick are simply bizarre, and show that you either have a dangerously sexist agenda, or are sadly culturally illiterate and unaware.
You REALLY need to re-evaluate your positions on sex, gender, societal roles, and social programming. One of these days you're going to make one of these ridiculous statements in front of somebody who is going to take it PERSONALLY, and you're going to get smacked down, either physically or Magickally...
And what is this obsession with the word "manly" anyway? What the hell does "manly" even mean? From the way you've described it, it sounds like "Manly" means some sort of overcompensation for repressed homosexual urges, with regards to your James Bond references, and anti-gay/anti-female remarks. And all that stuff about "integrity, dedication, etc" is just ridiculous. Have you ever seen a mother protecting her child? I think THAT is perhaps the most fearful, powerful, agressive forces in the universe--a mother protecting her child. Now THAT is a force to be reckoned with...
Asking "is Magick Manly" is like asking if penises are gay...
Yes it is (they are), if you want to (or need to) see it that way.
But in and of itself, Magick is no more or less Manly than dancing, blacksmithing, baking, plowing a field, Ikebana, or being able to double-tap a .45acp...
The whole concept of "manly" has no place in the mind of a free-thinking 21st century human, and is PARTICULARLY egregious coming from someone who professes to be a practitioner of Magick--a path that is SUPPOSED to be aimed at personal development, cultural evolution, and personal mind-expansion.
Dude, you need to SERIOUSLY adjust your attitude, and open your mind a little. You've obviously got access to the Internet--maybe you should actually USE IT to look at someting outside of this forum now and then. There is some REALLY interesting stuff out there, and a LOT of it has been created by women...
--Funquie
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Original post: Venefica
I do not hate the movies, but they have never done much for me, a few of the Rodger Moore ones are good. I liked To Live And Let Die, but for me they are movies that well just do not get me involved at all. Now I am sure there are many of the movies I like that you do not like. Is it necessary to be so upset over it, it is just some movies.
I do not hate the movies, nor do I like them. I did not find most of them entertaining, they are just not my taste. I however do not really see the need to get angry over a snide comment about a movie. I mean how bloody inportant is it that everyone like the same movie you do?Hmmm... Sounds like James Bond to me. Even better... Sounds like you contradicted yourself cause you have something against the character. If you hated the movies then you'll really hate the books.
Actually, no I did not, in several of the movies he comes out of a dangerous situation, check his hair and go to have sex with the pretty lady. And there is no guts involved in James Bond, for he is never hurt, he is this invincible super spy, he is never scared, never the shot, never have to overcome his own limitations, all he have to do is shoot the bad guy, avoid the stupid traps and fuck the pretty lady, for me that is not being manly and the movies, I have not read the books so I can not say, just do not feel very real.Your right thats called guts, and... MANLY. Oh, and watch the Bond movies closer - the hair thing is just something you made up.
I do not hate the movies, but they have never done much for me, a few of the Rodger Moore ones are good. I liked To Live And Let Die, but for me they are movies that well just do not get me involved at all. Now I am sure there are many of the movies I like that you do not like. Is it necessary to be so upset over it, it is just some movies.
Where is he sexist? Wicca was started by a man, most of the grimoires with some age on them are written by men, most of the classical Chaos Magick authors are in fact men, what is not sexist, that is fact, and perhaps it is a fact we women should take to heart and get out butts in gear and start producing some books. Yes there are some really, really good female occult authors, but there are still more men among the really recognized ones and pointing that out is not sexist.This is perhaps the most absurd assertion I've read on this forum.
WhiteGhost, either you are a rabid sexist trying to promulgate a twisted hidden agenda to denigrate women in Magick, or you are completely culturally illiterate when it comes to the contemporary history of Western Magick...
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This thread brings to light just how sexist the world is. *sigh*
This thread brings to light just how sexist the world is. *sigh*
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[QUOTE=Vindictus;374382]... Shit, do I have to say I'm joking every time I tell a joke? Okay, answering in order- No, the desire to bang every atractive female in a thousand mile radius is not unmanly, a fop is somebody who pays WAY to much attention to their looks and clothes, and I do indeed like to get laid... FANBOY.
Prove it. :evil:
Has anyone ever actually tested this? It shouldn't be too hard... make a list of 'Unmanly' traits and check to see if people who dislike Bond have more of them then other people.[/QUOTE]
This thread is a case in point. :evil:
IAO131
[QUOTE=Vindictus;374382]... Shit, do I have to say I'm joking every time I tell a joke? Okay, answering in order- No, the desire to bang every atractive female in a thousand mile radius is not unmanly, a fop is somebody who pays WAY to much attention to their looks and clothes, and I do indeed like to get laid... FANBOY.
Prove it. :evil:
Has anyone ever actually tested this? It shouldn't be too hard... make a list of 'Unmanly' traits and check to see if people who dislike Bond have more of them then other people.[/QUOTE]
This thread is a case in point. :evil:
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Ah, but how can you tell? I actually dont mind the bond movies, but at times I think Blonde is WAY too interested in getting pussy and looking nice. I mean, if you were trapped in a hypothetical evil villians lair, would you
A- Seduce [if female] or trick the guard in order to get out,
B- Look in the mirror fix your hair,
or
C- Use all the skills you learned [from playing counterstrike and halo for hours] to eliminate all hostiles?
Ah, but how can you tell? I actually dont mind the bond movies, but at times I think Blonde is WAY too interested in getting pussy and looking nice. I mean, if you were trapped in a hypothetical evil villians lair, would you
A- Seduce [if female] or trick the guard in order to get out,
B- Look in the mirror fix your hair,
or
C- Use all the skills you learned [from playing counterstrike and halo for hours] to eliminate all hostiles?
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First B
Then A
C is for after the initial escape and I have a close encounter with the villain.
First B
Then A
C is for after the initial escape and I have a close encounter with the villain.
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Original post: forgivereleasesatanpure
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5:35 am April 14/08
This is my proof society and spirtuality love Satanists and evil witches and deceptive people that
are evil in this world, but sadly it is going to be recond with soon its going to be measured and
weighed to figure out if they deserved to be loved, world wide. It's kind of like jesus adding cream
and sugar in a cup of coffee or other saints, society ect. You see jesus could turn water into wine.
There is a beliefe in evil people that if you blame strangers out of love with conditions such as
they have to sin, that this will cause caos in the spirtual realm, this will force gods involvement to
stop the coas thus god being close to the evil people but not harming them because he is
preocupied most of the time with balancing out the caos. at the preocupied caos moment they try
to teach there beliefes causing more sin to develope and more caos, sort of to get even closer to
god a second time.
They practice this beliefe with the word "I" in conversations by analyzing the words. Also with
articles such as flags and evil items in unseen rituals.
The evil people in america to mention one nation believe this love obtains a Godhead format
declared power, admired by many satanist groups and witches. There are several levels to obtain
in obstructing this godhead which takes them further from god in hope not to be noticed by him.
There best technichue of covering it up is suggesting they forgive everyone and ask to be
forgiven. another techinue is everyones business is their business to the point of governing
businesses.
The old church style of godhead was to deleat from god's authority in grace basically with the
hope of no desire of knowledgable question fullfillment.
the problem with this beliefe is last april fools day all there beliefes start at a slow rate to
disappear to offcenter the caos and allow god to notice who is believing in the caos theory.
you can thank your local government for teaching them not to believe in caos and church and
god and the spirtual realm.
you evil people your rights to believe are being taken away because the planets fighting back
saying naughty naughty. You are to be noticed individually very soon by the spirtual realm.
all you can do know is sit back and have a cigarette and watch your neibour die of cancer but
dont regret getting blamed for their death.
april fools day was originally new years in europe untill the pope changed the date and those that
still celebrated april 1st as new years were called fools.
this caos is so unorganized it effects the chuch not to allow same sex marriges, or homesactuals
to enter heaven. this also effects churches to not recginize marriage outside of church. This has
effected the government not to have equality in the high positions of their nation (women, or
communist and mainly white people. This also contirbutes to nations to be on a decline of equal
rights for women and different nationality individuals such as african american.
If evil people fight back or test this out they are to be seaking the matrix head.
this is our lowest half of the equation
so (1?9 => eyes, hear, touch, I am)
((((1?9 = 3.14.. . (need eyes, need ears, need touch, I am, I need, I see, I believe, I saw, need
taste, need smells, need dictionary,ill)i will)i think)i just)
this is to fight the harlet in babalon the government tricked me into doing this for years and
couldnt back it off.
here is your fruit
Perception creates our version of reality.
If we perceive from a basis of fear we will see a frightening reality.
If we perceive from a basis of love reality is seen in its true state.
lets have a world without caos amen.
what this caos is, is an appeal to courts in communist and islam countries towards their courts in
being unjustly punished towards freedom of speach. Places like yahoo chat and basically evil
people suggest they have the birth right under the matrix to support freedom of speach
everywhere, in anyway possible. They basically believe a negative side sells better then positive
because it makes the world go around. For they also believe they take the scars and wounds in
prayer to the matrix for this, as being puppets to the matrix. They basically believe mankind
should only talk about what they want to talk about.
evil believes taking over a countries government to teach the world about freedom of rights and
equality is exceptable under the rights of the the puppet matrix in return they get to be a battery
for the matrix.
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5:35 am April 14/08
This is my proof society and spirtuality love Satanists and evil witches and deceptive people that
are evil in this world, but sadly it is going to be recond with soon its going to be measured and
weighed to figure out if they deserved to be loved, world wide. It's kind of like jesus adding cream
and sugar in a cup of coffee or other saints, society ect. You see jesus could turn water into wine.
There is a beliefe in evil people that if you blame strangers out of love with conditions such as
they have to sin, that this will cause caos in the spirtual realm, this will force gods involvement to
stop the coas thus god being close to the evil people but not harming them because he is
preocupied most of the time with balancing out the caos. at the preocupied caos moment they try
to teach there beliefes causing more sin to develope and more caos, sort of to get even closer to
god a second time.
They practice this beliefe with the word "I" in conversations by analyzing the words. Also with
articles such as flags and evil items in unseen rituals.
The evil people in america to mention one nation believe this love obtains a Godhead format
declared power, admired by many satanist groups and witches. There are several levels to obtain
in obstructing this godhead which takes them further from god in hope not to be noticed by him.
There best technichue of covering it up is suggesting they forgive everyone and ask to be
forgiven. another techinue is everyones business is their business to the point of governing
businesses.
The old church style of godhead was to deleat from god's authority in grace basically with the
hope of no desire of knowledgable question fullfillment.
the problem with this beliefe is last april fools day all there beliefes start at a slow rate to
disappear to offcenter the caos and allow god to notice who is believing in the caos theory.
you can thank your local government for teaching them not to believe in caos and church and
god and the spirtual realm.
you evil people your rights to believe are being taken away because the planets fighting back
saying naughty naughty. You are to be noticed individually very soon by the spirtual realm.
all you can do know is sit back and have a cigarette and watch your neibour die of cancer but
dont regret getting blamed for their death.
april fools day was originally new years in europe untill the pope changed the date and those that
still celebrated april 1st as new years were called fools.
this caos is so unorganized it effects the chuch not to allow same sex marriges, or homesactuals
to enter heaven. this also effects churches to not recginize marriage outside of church. This has
effected the government not to have equality in the high positions of their nation (women, or
communist and mainly white people. This also contirbutes to nations to be on a decline of equal
rights for women and different nationality individuals such as african american.
If evil people fight back or test this out they are to be seaking the matrix head.
this is our lowest half of the equation
so (1?9 => eyes, hear, touch, I am)
((((1?9 = 3.14.. . (need eyes, need ears, need touch, I am, I need, I see, I believe, I saw, need
taste, need smells, need dictionary,ill)i will)i think)i just)
this is to fight the harlet in babalon the government tricked me into doing this for years and
couldnt back it off.
here is your fruit
Perception creates our version of reality.
If we perceive from a basis of fear we will see a frightening reality.
If we perceive from a basis of love reality is seen in its true state.
lets have a world without caos amen.
what this caos is, is an appeal to courts in communist and islam countries towards their courts in
being unjustly punished towards freedom of speach. Places like yahoo chat and basically evil
people suggest they have the birth right under the matrix to support freedom of speach
everywhere, in anyway possible. They basically believe a negative side sells better then positive
because it makes the world go around. For they also believe they take the scars and wounds in
prayer to the matrix for this, as being puppets to the matrix. They basically believe mankind
should only talk about what they want to talk about.
evil believes taking over a countries government to teach the world about freedom of rights and
equality is exceptable under the rights of the the puppet matrix in return they get to be a battery
for the matrix.
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Eh... What?
No, seriously, where did THAT come from?
Oh well, if we're being random then
Eh... What?
No, seriously, where did THAT come from?
Oh well, if we're being random then
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Whaaa LOL ok then, this is just such as strange forum . . .
Whaaa LOL ok then, this is just such as strange forum . . .
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Original post: Achreus
funquie and koolbear05: Obviously, you didn't read this thread carefully and you're blinded by popular media's negative stereotype of manliness. You know nothing of true manliness.
Another thing: James Bond is manly but manliness is NOT James Bond.
forgivereleasesatanpure: ... riiiiiiiight.
funquie and koolbear05: Obviously, you didn't read this thread carefully and you're blinded by popular media's negative stereotype of manliness. You know nothing of true manliness.
Another thing: James Bond is manly but manliness is NOT James Bond.
forgivereleasesatanpure: ... riiiiiiiight.
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[QUOTE=funquie;374422] .... And what is this obsession with the word "manly" anyway? What the hell does "manly" even mean? From the way you've described it, .... --Funquie[/QUOTE]
Are you sure you have not confused me with the OP, Achreus?
[QUOTE=funquie;374422] .... And what is this obsession with the word "manly" anyway? What the hell does "manly" even mean? From the way you've described it, .... --Funquie[/QUOTE]
Are you sure you have not confused me with the OP, Achreus?
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No, I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to certain people who insinuated that this thread is sexist.White Ghost;374645 wrote:Are you sure you have not confused me with the OP, Achreus?
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Original post: Venefica
Well Bond have a tendency to do D-all three and usually starting with B.A- Seduce [if female] or trick the guard in order to get out,
B- Look in the mirror fix your hair,
or
C- Use all the skills you learned [from playing counterstrike and halo for hours] to eliminate all hostiles?
Me thinks either he is crazy or he have been eating some shrooms he should not have. Anyway, nice picture.Eh... What?
No, seriously, where did THAT come from?
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Original post: koolbear05
[QUOTE=Achreus;374639]funquie and koolbear05: Obviously, you didn't read this thread carefully and you're blinded by popular media's negative stereotype of manliness. You know nothing of true manliness.
Another thing: James Bond is manly but manliness is NOT James Bond.
forgivereleasesatanpure: ... riiiiiiiight.[/QUOTE]
what are you talking about? Advice, give james bond a rest and experience an orgasim.
[QUOTE=Achreus;374639]funquie and koolbear05: Obviously, you didn't read this thread carefully and you're blinded by popular media's negative stereotype of manliness. You know nothing of true manliness.
Another thing: James Bond is manly but manliness is NOT James Bond.
forgivereleasesatanpure: ... riiiiiiiight.[/QUOTE]
what are you talking about? Advice, give james bond a rest and experience an orgasim.
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Original post: Achreus
Why talk about James Bond when you should be talking about... Brian Boitano!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3OL-dl0o2E
Why talk about James Bond when you should be talking about... Brian Boitano!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3OL-dl0o2E
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Original post: koolbear05
WTF was that,
way too many close ups to the main singerâ??s face. And is that some kind of fake punk/oi band. I find that offensive since Iâ??m an oi punk. . . :mad:
WTF was that,
way too many close ups to the main singerâ??s face. And is that some kind of fake punk/oi band. I find that offensive since Iâ??m an oi punk. . . :mad:-
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[QUOTE=Vindictus;374583]Eh... What? [/QUOTE]
nice display
[QUOTE=Vindictus;374583]Eh... What? [/QUOTE]
nice display
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Original post: Marquise De Sade
Seeing how this thread has gone off topic I think I'll just defend my hero Mr.Bond:D
He hasn't been shot but he has been tortured most recently in Casino Royale. He constantly overcomes his limitations, and in a sense even his humanity. His wife was killed by his greatest enemy Blofield(Her Majesty's Secrect Service), he lost one of his first loves in Vesper Lynd even though he tried his best to save her as she drowned before his eyes(Casino Royale), he has to face the, and kill his childhood friend in Alec Travelyan(Goldeneye), because of a mistake he made in a mission MI6 is bombed, and one of M's personal friends (the mission) is killed (The World Is not Enough). Need I go on?
Seeing how this thread has gone off topic I think I'll just defend my hero Mr.Bond:D
Really did I sound mad? If anything though I'am annoyed because you haven't really thought your post through but I'm not mad at a James Bond insult.I do not hate the movies, nor do I like them. I did not find most of them entertaining, they are just not my taste. I however do not really see the need to get angry over a snide comment about a movie. I mean how bloody inportant is it that everyone like the same movie you do?
Aside from the fucking, and the dangerous indestructible situations name me one movie where he checks his hair, and any of the other things you said after a cool scene. He is hurt in EVERY movie, he has been scared before too specifically in Gold Finger, and has called out for help. Given the nature of superheros (which in a sense he is) you will not find him scared. Batman is never scared, Superman, Mcguyver, hell even many mythological, and religious figures are never scared. Does it mean that they do not have some embodiment of manliness? Does it mean that they aren't human?Actually, no I did not, in several of the movies he comes out of a dangerous situation, check his hair and go to have sex with the pretty lady. And there is no guts involved in James Bond, for he is never hurt, he is this invincible super spy, he is never scared, never the shot, never have to overcome his own limitations, all he have to do is shoot the bad guy, avoid the stupid traps and fuck the pretty lady, for me that is not being manly and the movies, I have not read the books so I can not say, just do not feel very real.
He hasn't been shot but he has been tortured most recently in Casino Royale. He constantly overcomes his limitations, and in a sense even his humanity. His wife was killed by his greatest enemy Blofield(Her Majesty's Secrect Service), he lost one of his first loves in Vesper Lynd even though he tried his best to save her as she drowned before his eyes(Casino Royale), he has to face the, and kill his childhood friend in Alec Travelyan(Goldeneye), because of a mistake he made in a mission MI6 is bombed, and one of M's personal friends (the mission) is killed (The World Is not Enough). Need I go on?
Really? Like which movie?Well Bond have a tendency to do D-all three and usually starting with B.