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Goddesses of love and war

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 3:39 pm
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Original post: Cloud Hex

Does anyone know any examples of goddesses that are both known to be goddesses of love, as well as war?

Goddesses of love and war

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:47 pm
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Original post: nebhotep

Hi Cloud Hex,

There is a legend in Egyptian texts called the Destruction of Mankind. Hathor goddess of love and daughter of Re the sun is sent to punish the humans and to do so she assumes the form of Sakhmet, goddess of war and disease. Is this of any use to you? Both Hathor and Sakhmet were thought to be the same divinity but a different manifestation, other forms include Tefnut and Bast.

Nebhotep

Goddesses of love and war

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:51 pm
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Original post: Kath_

there are many examples in hindu mythology of gods & goddesses with dual aspects. often called by different names.

Goddesses of love and war

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:56 pm
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Original post: shadow flame

freya and inanna/ishtar come to my mind

Goddesses of love and war

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 4:42 pm
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Original post: Tevnon

Not a goddess, but a God. Ares is a god of war, bloodlust, and passion. His passion can be the passion of love, and not just the passion of battle. It isn't one of his major aspects, but it is there.

Goddesses of love and war

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:38 pm
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Original post: Marquise De Sade

Ishtar/ Inanna. Exactly what you want.

Goddesses of love and war

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:34 pm
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Original post: simex

Devi is like a composite of all the goddesses in Hinduism. There are plenty of war-like goddesses in Hinduism, like Durga, who carries the weapons of the gods, and fights demons while riding a tiger/lion. I don't know about a love Goddess, maybe Parvati or Lakshmi. The deities in Hinduism aren't generally "The God(dess) of [x]" so what is it you're looking for exactly?

Goddesses of love and war

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:28 am
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Original post: Frater VSV

I'll second Freyja, and add her retinue, the Valkyries.

Goddesses of love and war

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:30 pm
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Original post: lkky00245

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Goddesses of love and war

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:59 pm
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Original post: Kath_

hehe, I'm going to go out on a limb and add one, but not ancient,

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the Endless "Desire" from Niel Gaiman's sandman series.

Desire (capitalized) being the incarnation of desire (lowercase) which is the universal cosmic force/principal of desire or want. Desire is androgyne, being both masculine and feminine. And each of the Endless in the series are dualistic, Desire for example is also Hate/hate.

but that's not terribly ancient. Still, one could argue that the archetype is ancient, even if Neil Gaiman isn't.

Kath

Goddesses of love and war

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:21 am
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Original post: S33k3R

I might also point out that the picture looks a bit like you?

Goddesses of love and war

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:47 am
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Original post: Kath_

hehe, now that's some serious flattery ...given the mystique of raw attractive power Desire is supposed to have. ;)

Goddesses of love and war

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:14 am
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Original post: ghoul

Inana(k) / Ishtar / Ashtarte

Sex, Death, War. If you want to know more, google "ETCSL" and look p the Inana(k) B hymn. The part where she bathes her weapons in blood and pus, combined with the sexual imagery, is quite... striking.

On a darker note, Ereshkigala would also fit.

Goddesses of love and war

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:56 pm
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Original post: Kath_

The Great Lady of The Great Place ...as a love goddess??
heh, that's some interesting taste there. I tend to agree personally... But how do you figure on her fitting a stereotypical 'love goddes' role?

Goddesses of love and war

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:48 am
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Original post: ghoul

From an occult point of view - from the experiences I had when I worked with her. She's very ...alluring.

From a scientific point of view - the few myths we have in Sumerian and Babylonian that mention her, most prominent of them of course "Nergal and Ereshkigala" in the two versions that exist, her sexuality is very important and deeply explored. As the old Sumerian myth (I don't recall the museum number right off my head now, but I think it's in the British Museum, but don't quote me on that without me having my books at hand) goes, she got sent to the netherworld to be its queen when the realms of heaven, earth, Abzu and netherworld were split between An, Enlil, Enkig and Ereshkigala. She went there as a virgin, never having experienced the touch of a man (or woman). As soon as Nergal gets down there, the relevant texts get very... detailed about how she bathes in front of him, wears awesome clothes (*drool*) and has sex with him for seven days and seven nights.

She might not fit the picture of a goddess of "love", as in "loving someone" and all that, but she certainly is a sexually active and greedy goddess. I mean, she threatens to release the dead from the netherworld so that they outnumber the living if she doesn't get her lover back. If that doesn't say "hot, horny goddess", I don't know what does ;)

I don't care much about stereotypical love goddesses anyways... so maybe that colours my perceptions of her.

Re: Goddesses of love and war

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:59 am
by Occultess
Innana/Ishtar (as has already been mentioned)

Athena was, too, wasn't she? I mean, I know there was War and Wisdom, but...I thought love was in there, too.

Re: Goddesses of love and war

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:19 pm
by talus
Occultess wrote:Innana/Ishtar (as has already been mentioned)

Athena was, too, wasn't she? I mean, I know there was War and Wisdom, but...I thought love was in there, too.
She is my favorite. ::)
I like to think of her as the Holy Mother. Chaos itself. The immortal void of nothingness and all.