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Original post: daev

Hi, I was wondering if any one here has evoked the Celtic god Belenos? If so what were your experiences and what did you gain out of this experience?

Original post: Winnipeg1919

Personaly, I have found it best not to cripple Cowans with my preconception or specific details of divine experiences. It is generally better for you to gain your own experience, then compare notes.

I find that what a divinity or any sort of entity will teach you depends a great deal on what you need to know, not necessarily what you want to know.

I have invoked and evoked a number of Celtic dieties, and developed long term working relationships with a few. The long term ones are the most rewarding, and I have acquired some useful skills, information, and knowledge from them.

If Belenos calls to you, answer.

Original post: Marquise De Sade

The evocation of a god is something tha would proabably seem extreamly dangerous. I'am sorry I can't contribute to your question but from what I read such evocations are dangerous. I'am curious Winnipeg1919 how did you manage to build up your relationship with these deties. Its sounds really intresting, and it would be good to know others experiance.

Original post: Winnipeg1919

[QUOTE=Marquise De Sade]I'am curious Winnipeg1919 how did you manage to build up your relationship with these deties.[/QUOTE]
Repeated invocations is the short answer. One of them, just started sending messages in dreams and visions while awake. She has taught me a lot, but is a little too fond of certain things. Dark goddesses, like the Morrigan, tend to propose rather final solutions.

Too many lifetimes as a soldier, including this one, have taught me some control over battle lust.

Original post: pAmphAge

[QUOTE=Winnipeg1919]Personaly, I have found it best not to cripple [evocations/invocations] with my preconception or specific details of divine experiences. It is generally better for you to gain your own experience, then compare notes.[/QUOTE] The board needs an automated bot that posts this response everytime someone asks a question of this sort. All this type of question breeds is laziness and typical Hod-like over-talking within the community.

Daev : Go out, e/invoke a god or demon, then come back, post your results and ask people to share. I'm going to start astrally bonking anyone who asks about other's experiences with a spirit or god without posting theirs first.

Pamperzini

Original post: Winnipeg1919

That's right pAmphAge. Instead of copying my bad habits, or yours, they should bloody well go out and get their own.

Original post: daev

Thanks for the help... I was wondering what kind of sacrifice or offering this god would like while I do a ritual towards him. I don't want to offend him in any way and want to talk with someone who has a working relationship with bel.

I was thinking about doing the ritual with out a sacrifice but I didn't feel like it would have been right.

Feel free to PM me if you can help me out...

Original post: Winnipeg1919

Gods are only offended easily in Christianity. Anything offered in sincerity can do.

Celtic ones don't usually need a sacrifice, only an offering. The common example is Cakes and All (or cookies and tea) at the end of the ritual.

If you want a perfect offering, study the legends surrounding the particual diety. If nothing pops out, go with something culturally relevent.

Since I like to cook, I tend to prefer using things that I have made myself. But a bottle of coke and a bag of Cheetos offered in reverence and sincerity can work just as well.

Original post: oriax

[QUOTE=Winnipeg1919]

But a bottle of coke and a bag of Cheetos offered in reverence and sincerity can work just as well.[/QUOTE]
How long do you wait to consume it or do you throw it away without eating it?

Original post: Kazahel

pAmphAge wrote:The board needs an automated bot that posts this response everytime someone asks a question of this sort. All this type of question breeds is laziness and typical Hod-like over-talking within the community.

Well I disagree. You said the same when I asked bout Ariel. I hadnt told anyone at the start of my thread that I had worked with him already because I was after other peoples personal experience with him so that I could compare first before giving out my infomation. You assumed the same for me as you have in this thread.

Daev : Go out, e/invoke a god or demon, then come back, post your results and ask people to share. I'm going to start astrally bonking anyone who asks about other's experiences with a spirit or god without posting theirs first.

Like I said. Maybe some people want to hear other peoples experiences first for there own reasons. You cant assume to know the reasons why people post so you shouldnt hate on it by giving a responce such as this..

'The board needs an automated bot that posts this response everytime someone asks a question of this sort. All this type of question breeds is laziness and typical Hod-like over-talking within the community

If this kind of question breeds laziness then it seems to also breed rudeness imo.

Sorry but your similar comment bugged me in my thread because that was all you added in the end. So yeah.



Edit* Im tempted to respond to the post below but why bother. With that kind of answer is that in the first place. Would I ever get a better more civilized responce.. Threads like this shouldnt be killed off by people like you. Just because you dont like it, dont attempt to kill it. If you understand what I mean. You did the same in my thread and all I thought was why did you even bother posting at all, because all you did was potentially deter others from posting which was very not polite imo.

Original post: pAmphAge

[QUOTE=Kazahel]Well I disagree. You said the same when I asked bout Ariel. I hadnt told anyone at the start of my thread that I had worked with him already because I was after other peoples personal experience with him so that I could compare first before giving out my infomation. You assumed the same for me as you have in this thread.


Like I said. Maybe some people want to hear other peoples experiences first for there own reasons. You cant assume to know the reasons why people post so you shouldnt hate on it by giving a responce such as this..If this kind of question breeds laziness then it seems to also breed rudeness imo.

Sorry but your similar comment bugged me in my thread because that was all you added in the end. So yeah.[/QUOTE]
yap yap

Original post: Tiro DvD

[QUOTE=Winnipeg1919]Gods are only offended easily in Christianity.[/QUOTE]I contest this since there are several Greek myths just about people bringing the wrong sacrifices or slighting the gods in that area. And it's usualy that type of thinking that brings fluffiness.

Mage: Well I though it was good, and it felt right.
God: BUT THE BREAD WAS DRY!!! NOW I'M ALL THIRSTY!!!
*Mage hands soda*
God: WHAT DIET?!!! I NEED SOME REAL SUGAR!!!

Deav is somewhat justified right in asking about what's apropriate, but it does lead to stife on the board. I'm still working out the Network Security models to fix this situation of person A talking to person B in such as way that they both confirm a key--in our case a magical experience--but without explicitly giving it away.

Original post: Winnipeg1919

[QUOTE=oriax]How long do you wait to consume it or do you throw it away without eating it?[/QUOTE]
That depends on the tradition that you follow and its practices.

After the spirit or divinity has consumed the essence, many have a ceremony to acknoweldge the consumption. The clergy then consume the physical portion (eat it themselves).

Others bury it, or otherwise dispose of it, with reverence.

The Celts seem to favour disposal of one sort or another - often throwing offerings in the natural bodies of water. Makes sense when you consider that they believed that river banks and fords were boundaries between the worlds.

Do your research and take your pick.

Original post: Winnipeg1919

[QUOTE=Tiro DvD]I contest this since there are several Greek myths just about people bringing the wrong sacrifices or slighting the gods in that area. And it's usualy that type of thinking that brings fluffiness. [/QUOTE]
Quite right, I tend to forget about those touchie Olympians. I should have said that the Celts aren't that touchie. Attitude and honour matter more to them.

Original post: lunukaos

Study the Beltaine festival of the ancient Celts. If it was his festival, then he'd probably recognize the trappings of it in an evocation. A good book on the folk custom side of Celtic magick is The Apple Branch by Alexi Kondratiev.

Original post: daev

Sooo, Is there anyone who has contacted Belenos before?? Or is there anyone who worships Belenos???

Does anyone knows of a good website/forum with above average information about Belenous?

Original post: Samhain

You can find a few tidbits about Belanos on the web, such as the material at this site.

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/b/bile.html

However, you'd be better off reading some scholarly sources on Celtic mythology, such as the one lunukaos mentioned. And remember that Belanos is strongly associated with fire and with Beltane. That should give you some ideas.

Original post: nebhotep

hi
Tiro DvD; some cultures did indeed have taboo offerings; prometheus in the greek tradition gave the gods a bag of bones lol the egyptian gods as far as i know would not accept fish; the same applies for any priests in their service; no fish! lol

nebhotep

Original post: daev

I guess i have found all the info I can on him with out actually trying to invoke or evoke him... or buying a book. I guess I will do the ritual tommorow and post how it went in the next few days.

*EDIT*

Thanks for all of the help every one.