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Original post: Noxlux

Hi,

in a general way I am wondering how you construct your triangle. So I will ask you a question regarding your use of triangles - how do you prepare and use the magickal triangle?

Nox

Original post: Frater Manjet

I imagine you are inquiring as to the triangle of the art..yes?

There are others as say the G.'.D.'. Triangle and cross.

-VVV

Original post: Noxlux

Absolutely.

This thread is really an offspring from another, where Grab pointed out that the description I gave of how I use the triangle seems to differ from the instructions in the goetia for example.

I invoke angelic powers to the BORDERS of the triangle, to keep the demon locked in.

Konstantinos for example writes the name of god INSIDE the triangle.

Now, the way I think about it that would scare the demon, and perhaps weaken him. So This is my personal background for asking the question.

Original post: Gryzlgreedigutt

I'm confused so you are saying you write the Archangel name and the names of God outside the triangle or just the names of God? I think the archangel within with the names of god sealing the borders from the outside is the typical way but I may be wrong its been a while. BTW on a side note why does Poke Runyon make such a big deal about the fact that he put the Dark Mirror inside the triangle. Isn't that how you are supposed to do it? He acts like he invented it.

Original post: Noxlux

I tried to make a piece of ascii-art, obviously that didnät work in these postings. SO I will have to restrt to a verbal description: my triangle has double set of lines, so the borders are actually several inches broad - therefore I can write michael, agla, tetragrammaton and so forth on the border itself, neither inside nor outside of the triangle.





Regarding Poke Runyon ... I believe he thinks he rediscovered the way it was usually done, and looking at the sketches it certainly looks like the triangle could have contained a black crystal. I think the reason he maske s such a big deal of it is that he is not the only one who thinks they made that discovery ... :-)

Original post: Grab

Noxlux, do you have a part of your ritual where you reinforce the existence of Michael etc in the (border of the) triangle? I mean, do you kind of invoke those energies each ritual, or do you think the written word is enough?

Original post: Noxlux

The written word is nothing but letters on paper or the ground as the case may be.

They should be written in light and the forces present. (Am I pretentious enough? :-))

[QUOTE=Grab]Noxlux, do you have a part of your ritual where you reinforce the existence of Michael etc in the (border of the) triangle? I mean, do you kind of invoke those energies each ritual, or do you think the written word is enough?[/QUOTE]

I only do something to get the energies there if I have to. That is, if I am not satisfied that the energies are there I will do something about it. That can be something like retracing the letters, chanting the names, invoking some other power and so forth.

Nox

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Original post: Grab

Noxlux wrote: They should be written in light and the forces present. (Am I pretentious enough? :-))

Regarding the level of pretentiousness, well, there's still some mileage to go before you sound like a true CM:er. :lol:

But as for your point, I think the written word (as everything) also automatically has a representation on the astral and mental planes.

I only do something to get the energies there if I have to. That is, if I am not satisfied that the energies are there I will do something about it. That can be something like retracing the letters, chanting the names, invoking some other power and so forth.

Fascinating. How do you know that the energies are there? What is your criteria for satisfaction?

Do you then trace the letters with your finger/staff/other or just visualize them being traced?

/Grab

Original post: Astral Alien

[QUOTE=Gryzlgreedigutt]BTW on a side note why does Poke Runyon make such a big deal about the fact that he put the Dark Mirror inside the triangle. Isn't that how you are supposed to do it? He acts like he invented it.[/QUOTE]I disagree, there is a large number of evocations performed where the spirit is summoned to the physical plane, some popular books present it as if they knew the original intent of the writer of the grimoires - that of evoking only to the astral. My point is that the circle could certainly be painted an appropriate colour without using any scrying mirror attached or on it. And the spirit made to manifest above it.

So it may not be the way it was supposed to be done(placing the Dark Mirror inside the triangle).

Original post: kalki

[QUOTE=Noxlux]Hi,

in a general way I am wondering how you construct your triangle. So I will ask you a question regarding your use of triangles - how do you prepare and use the magickal triangle?

Nox[/QUOTE]
Use your cord!

That is your length. Now remember your trig? create some intersecting arcs using the cord pivoted on...your wand or athame? and there you have your markers.

I'm not going to describe it in detail, look up (google it), creating an equilateral triangle using a compass or something. Remember the compass is but your cord fixed upon a point i.e. a wand or athame and the "pencil" could be flowing salt etc etc.

Used to make fantastic trig stuff in my "working days". And crop circles too