Original post: nooneknows
Well, I recently cracked the BotL, and I'm wondering whether Magick without Tears or The Magick of Aleister Crowley would be a better second step for a burgeoning Thelemite after that. Thanks in advance for your advice.
Second Step: Magick without Tears or The Magick of Aleister Crowley?
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Second Step: Magick without Tears or The Magick of Aleister Crowley?
Original post: T~Gothe
It depends. If you want to learn about the underlying physicks of Thelema, I'd go with Magick Without Tears. If you want to get into the hands-on ceremonial side of things I'd get The Magick of Aleister Crowley.
It depends. If you want to learn about the underlying physicks of Thelema, I'd go with Magick Without Tears. If you want to get into the hands-on ceremonial side of things I'd get The Magick of Aleister Crowley.
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Original post: Defgarden
I have both books (well, the older edition of DuQuette's book, The Magick of Thelema) and I would have to agree with T~Gothe, The Magick of Thelema is a very instructional book, it gives you some basic rituals, The Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram, the Greater Pentagram Ritual, the Banishing Ritual of the Hexagram, the Star Ruby, Star Saphhire, Liber Samehk (sp), the OTO Gnostic Mass, and then some and also some great commentary on each.
Magick without Tears is also a book I'm currently reading (well, started anyway). The book has great points and practical advice that is good as a supplement to magickal studies.
I have both books (well, the older edition of DuQuette's book, The Magick of Thelema) and I would have to agree with T~Gothe, The Magick of Thelema is a very instructional book, it gives you some basic rituals, The Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram, the Greater Pentagram Ritual, the Banishing Ritual of the Hexagram, the Star Ruby, Star Saphhire, Liber Samehk (sp), the OTO Gnostic Mass, and then some and also some great commentary on each.
Magick without Tears is also a book I'm currently reading (well, started anyway). The book has great points and practical advice that is good as a supplement to magickal studies.
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Second Step: Magick without Tears or The Magick of Aleister Crowley?
Original post: Fr. Qim
Also, read the Law is For All if you have not done so yet.
Also, read the Law is For All if you have not done so yet.
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Second Step: Magick without Tears or The Magick of Aleister Crowley?
Original post: Horus
Why not read them both? Magick without Tears is available freely and you can purchase the other book.
Why not read them both? Magick without Tears is available freely and you can purchase the other book.
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Original post: Nalyd23
I agree with Horus, just go with both and throw in The Law Is for All, Magick - Book 4, The Book of Thoth, The Holy Books of Thelema, and 777 as well. Not to overwelm you, but whatever you can get your hands on is a good place to start. IMO, everything you really need to get started is in Magick - Book 4, that should lead you to everything else with confidence to take it on.
I actually started my reading of Crowley with Liber AL and The Book of Thoth and I wish I would have had the complete Magick back then. I did have a small paperback copy of what was titled just Book 4 but it only contained the first section of the complete book. It wasn't until I read Robert Anton Wilson's Cosmic Trigger Vol. 1 and Israel Regardie's The Eye in the Triangle that I actually got a feel for what I was into and the eye's to pick up on what the hell Crowley was on about with all his double, triple, quadruple layers of meaning and occult-sex in-jokes. The rest is history.
I agree with Horus, just go with both and throw in The Law Is for All, Magick - Book 4, The Book of Thoth, The Holy Books of Thelema, and 777 as well. Not to overwelm you, but whatever you can get your hands on is a good place to start. IMO, everything you really need to get started is in Magick - Book 4, that should lead you to everything else with confidence to take it on.
I actually started my reading of Crowley with Liber AL and The Book of Thoth and I wish I would have had the complete Magick back then. I did have a small paperback copy of what was titled just Book 4 but it only contained the first section of the complete book. It wasn't until I read Robert Anton Wilson's Cosmic Trigger Vol. 1 and Israel Regardie's The Eye in the Triangle that I actually got a feel for what I was into and the eye's to pick up on what the hell Crowley was on about with all his double, triple, quadruple layers of meaning and occult-sex in-jokes. The rest is history.