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Earth-Bound

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 8:43 am
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: Arayus

At some point a few short years ago I reached the zenith of my power in a deep oceanic cave, face to face with multiple soul herders waging a plan for war and seeking my essence to be their slave (or perhaps co-conspiritor). When I refused them clearly after all the threats and posturing, I was finding myself at ease in the astral places. Until I was forced into a desert, much like I was forced into the cave earlier.

This time instead I found myself at peace; in a small indoor garden in a small farm in a sun-soaked dusty plain. The presence that brought me here was not concerned with tricks and blood and slaves; rather the plants of the garden and all the souls that might be sustained by the fruit borne within. My instructions were clear, and I felt sure that my purpose was to tend these plants in the harsh environment because it was a purpose and a path I had willingly set out upon lifetimes ago. I was at bliss, somehow everything had come together perfectly and some form of transcendance must be near! All I needed was some final instruction, some goal that I could work toward, some reason to travel to the core and beyond -- but the booming unseen voice said only "Wait, and Be Prepared."

And so I wait. And now some years later I am confident that I have not been able to travel further from my body than down the hallway. I have had no problems channeling or transferring energy, or healing, or even influencing people and events with the exception of a period of extended sickness that was caused by very obvious physical factors.

But now I am still young and in good health and the only part of me that feels old is my soul, and it is only stronger for it. Why after lifetimes of seemingly effortless astral travel at will have I been anchored so? I have improved my diet and excercise and education of all matters and every ability grows as I would expect -- but my soul is stuck.

Has anyone else ever been grounded like this or have any insight or personal experience that would shed light on this mystery or path that I seem to be on? News from the other places has been cut off for me. I fear this war I was sought for could be disrupting my normal routes of travel, but I have no information about it or what the possible consequences could be. It is highly logical that I am my own only obstacle somehow, but I am curious if anyone else has/ or had the sense of being "cut-off" or "bound."

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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 3:28 pm
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: Ognamus

I normally wouldn't say this... since it tends to piss me off when I hear it ;) even from my own mouth, haha. Eh... but I will.

In this case it's probably all in your head. You give such things too much power, just deny it and your will shall overcome such minor things.

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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 5:20 pm
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: NecroMage

Do not fear... You must be patient. The only power at work here is in fact your own, but for one reason or another, it is not in your best interests to disobey it. It is best for you to stay, that is why you are anchored. Give it time, I promise that great power awaits you.

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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:17 pm
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: Aodh

[QUOTE=NecroMage]Give it time, I promise that great power awaits you.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry but this made my day :)

Now, on topic, I myself have only ever been able to get out of body (fully emersed AKA 'unconcious' projection) in a few situations. Someone once told me I was 'grounded' magically somehow. After doing much work on my own, I'm fairly confident that was BS ;)

In my situation, I just CAN'T get out very easily. However, to illustrate a point, I used to be very skilled at scanning energetic constructs, people's energy fields, as well as running telepathic scans of people, empathic scans, etc. Now I can barely tell if someone around me is angry if they're yelling like hell, hehe. BUT, event manipulation, something I've never been very good at is now my primary ability and I'm quite happy with how well it works for me now.

Give it some time, abilities can go on and off for various reasons whether or not we can understand it.

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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:05 pm
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: aware

a bit off topic, but i have never been able to project, other then one attack whilst i was walking,..quite a trip!
but i've also posted before under past life regressions, but i've never been regressed, its just a view im stuck with when i try to meditate/project(i give up very quickly now)
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but the first time it happened i found my self in a dark trench with an obelisk above/behind my head,(at this point i had no idea what they were called,let alone symbolism)
and i just looked around where i was anchored, and it appears its on a 'mouth' of a river/coast, maybe even valley,
but all i can ever see is that sunset just over the trench wall/cliff coming up, illuminating my darkness, that, and pulses of purple energy in 1-2 second intervals ingulfing me,feet to crown...
but my question is, is it possible that i've been anchored here for a VERY long time?
...and i love to here comments,or advice,even opinions,..thank you

(ps, i wish not to talk of my own opinion of past life roles,and even this)

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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:49 am
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: Arayus

What emotion do you feel in that situation and have you ever attempted to will the bindings away? I don't know it almost sounds like a safe place where your spirit could wait and bask in some energetic field until your new body was prepared.

Or when you go, attempt to imagine yourself looking down on the trench. Once you see the obelisk from a new point of view i think you will be able to progress from there. I might be over optimistic but it sounds like you can project just fine but there is still something holding your form to this location (even if it is just for you to be certain that you are prepared. Attempt to learn about this place and find out what your role is in it, if you manage to get out of the ditch that is. You may have unfinished business there. This is your beginning point but there is no reason to fear departure. Good luck.



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Re-hijacking my thread now here.

I have been re-analyzing my progress based on the helpful reminders posted here that all the answers were in my own head already. And I have decided that it isn't the projection itself thats been a problem. its been that I can't get back to my favorite destinations. In fact, I'm unable to find much at all anymore. There are certain places I'd like to be, but try as I might I cannot remember the paths I used to get there.

If I was summoned to a place while in Astral Form, could the summoner erase my memory of how I got there completely? Even if I went several dozen times? I'm sure they probably could.

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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:16 pm
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: Aodh

[QUOTE=Arayus]
I have been re-analyzing my progress based on the helpful reminders posted here that all the answers were in my own head already. And I have decided that it isn't the projection itself thats been a problem. its been that I can't get back to my favorite destinations. In fact, I'm unable to find much at all anymore. There are certain places I'd like to be, but try as I might I cannot remember the paths I used to get there.

If I was summoned to a place while in Astral Form, could the summoner erase my memory of how I got there completely? Even if I went several dozen times? I'm sure they probably could.[/QUOTE]
Okay, first of all, you're on the astral planes, why not just 'will yourself' to the spot?

As for the last part, it's possible but extremely improbable. Why would something do that? If it could do that, why wouldn't it erase your memories of the places all together so that you wouldn't even remember the place at all? Just seems rather bizarre and pointless to me...

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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:46 pm
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: Channel Null

I am not old and experienced enough to feel as though I know anything about this, so I will just relay other's suggestions.

One Zen saying goes, "Eat when hungry, sleep when tired, do not dream." Simply, the reason we can enter the astral realm is to recover the pieces of ourselves scattered across it; you may have found all of yours already. What does astral projection matter ultimately, besides as an interesting diversion?

Another possiblity might be that you have entered the Chapel Perilous, the Dark Night of the Soul. Like Uncle Al says, on every page the demon will write failure. You are a magician, your will must be done: You must persist, despite near-constant failure.

I might suggest you adopt a different model or paradigm and see if that can't open up other avenues, e.g., try operating from a psychological-material perspective rather than one where the astral exists objectively--rather than "I've been altered by someone who summoned me" try "I'm teaching myself something", or vice versa, and tailor the response from there.

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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:54 pm
by Occult Forum Archive
Original post: aware

as far as i know, obelisk's represent phallic nature, and also that year of the 'sun' that it was erected, so a comprimise would be, that im stuck at the base of my celebration to 'manhood' born into light
but hey, who knows, i'll try some time to move around, i haven't 'visited' that scene for a month or so, i suppose i should persist,
but i have more pressing concerns,(though of course related, i have no leads)