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Original post: ChaosTech

I have been practicing different psionic feats over the past few months, and after witnessing some strange shit, I have been wanting to show others.

My question though is have any of you ever done this infront of your friends? And did they freak out?


For instance I can perform pyrokinesis. It takes a while but eventually I can physically burn something. Have any of you ever done something like this infront of a friend or family member who is unaware that this is even possible?


The reason I ask, is because I have thought about the possibilities of this and you think someone by now would have demonstraited this on tape to show to the masses? Is there some kind of consipiracy in action that is preventing the exposure of this stuff to the masses or is this just a much rarer talent than I thought? Also, have any of you ever tried to demonstrait this stuff in a public area like a mall or something? That would surely make it to alteast the local papers?

I'm asking these questions, because I don't want men in black suits showing up and taking me away if I start showing others my pyrokinesis ability I have developed. This is no joke, I am very serious.

Original post: shodin

mwah, i think that you are asking this just at the right moment
i believe psionic to be a really big blow to human ignorance
my own practice is aimed at showing others what can be done with it
and i choose people that are sensitive to my current level
so if i want to give someone a shock, it better be someone sensitive enough
to really feel it, some people are just armored by their ignorance
so finding the right people is a second

few weeks ago i made my housemate feel his energy. he is a quite rigid ratio person, and i was very surprised when he said that he could feel his energy moving...
i then gave him some tips and he managed to make his own psiball

but i would believe that psionics is on the verge of becoming generally accepted, there is just need for someone who becomes popular doing such tricks. that's all it takes, one monkey that shows the trick and the mass will follow...

Original post: K.A. Malik

I have done things in front of people... large groups of people who weren't even my friends, even. Doing something on tape, on TV, or anything except right in front of someone in person is utterly worthless, as video editing is easy enough to teach to kindergardeners. Even in fromt of people, it is incredibly easy to fake all sorts of psychokinetic powers. The problem isn't a conspiracy coverup.

I wouldn't worry about any Men In Black coming after you. I know people who have displayable abilities, and if the MIB wanted to shut them up they could have already. If there is anything like the MIB, the closest thing you're gonna get to a kidnapping is a job offer, which will probably have some nice pay, benefits, and training.

Now, to brag, I'm going to tell you what I have done to astound the masses. I have dislayed electrokinesis, the power to control delicate electrical currents, like computers. I have connected components which were not wired together, unfrozen computers, fixed television reception, adjusted television colour, activated televisions, and even caused Windows to cooperate in front of various high school classes. Some people are quite freaked out by me, some people love me, and I have quite a reputation, locally.

Original post: micdeath

LOL ok, be CAREFULL as to WHO you show off to, there are actual "witch hunters" out, and i had personally meet (met?) two of them myself (scary sht i tell you) so ya, becareful as to WHOM yu show off. these guys are nearly EVERYWHERE. I wounder if thast why there has been an increase in "missing people" cases...who knows....but mabe....

Original post: Ninlil

My abilities are arguably too easy to disprove. I have never witnessed pyrokinesis, but honestly I wonder if more people could do it if they just tried. Many people are limited largely by inaction. Like they don't know they have legs because they never try to walk. I'd be interested in witnessing that or the electrical manipulation, personally, and I'd be interesting in understanding it. Perhaps you could use that sort of demonstrative ability to wake people.

Original post: hesperus

[QUOTE=K.A. Malik]caused Windows to cooperate in front of various high school classes. [/QUOTE]This is total bull! there is NO WAY you got Windows to cooperate! We are talking about MS Windows aren't we (and not Lindows or some more stable variant)???
I'm sorry I just don't believe you, Balls of electrical flame shooting from your head and consuming horses and other large animals, yes--but Windows working properly, no way!

Original post: K.A. Malik

[QUOTE=hesperus]NO WAY[/QUOTE]
No matter how many Illuminati Cthulhu Arch Wizard-Priests of the Void Microsoft may have backing up Windows, they can't hope to stop-

Hang on a second, someone's at the door.

Original post: sunshine_dragon

It's nice to have these talents but unless you want to end up a lab-rat you'll keep it fairly quiet.

Wouldnt you just love it if someone wanted to use this talent as a wepon? Think before you act.

Original post: Daleth

In my experience, the same people that seriously fear being kidnapped and imprisoned in a super secret government laboratory often build hats to keep alien mind rays from affecting them. There's a certain point where paranoia is either a manifestation of psychological issues rather than external ones, or an excuse. Of course, the possibility always does exist that the government (or some far more sinister force, like a shadow government, or aliens) really does employ super secret agents to run around kidnapping people that show telepathic, telekinetic, or pyrokinetic powers and hush up alien encounters and such...But I wouldn't bet money on it, myself.

Original post: MaeveQ

I dont approve of showing off.

Original post: hesperus

[QUOTE=K.A. Malik]No matter how many Illuminati Cthulhu Arch Wizard-Priests of the Void Microsoft may have backing up Windows, they can't hope to stop-

Hang on a second, someone's at the door.[/QUOTE](mad cackling)

Original post: Wiseone

well ive already heard that some governments are experimenting with remote viewing to see what their enemy is doing and stuff. and it could be true though as the scientific community is beginning to accept the psychic phenomena.

though i do know the latter is true as here in CA ive heard there are some colleges and universities or whatever that are tesing out some psychic abilities.

Original post: Horus

My exprience has been that if you can prove something to a skeptic then you are best not to do it. The urge is strong eh? Well I will tell you that the normal mind, not apt to accept these kind of things, will reject the phenomena in some way. Now if it is someone who WANTS to witness something like this then I don't htink there would be a problem, but forcefully breaking someone's conception of reality can have terrible consequences to the person and you. And personally I do believe there is something keeping these types of things from being known. I think one is perception, to a smaller extent. The larger factor, I do not think is a conspiracy, so much as perhaps a psychic safety mechanism for everyone else. These are just my thoughts though... hard to compile of model of something that you can't see and purposely tries to trick you, hehe

Original post: K.A. Malik

[QUOTE=Wiseone] ...governments are experimenting with remote viewing...[/QUOTE]
Remote viewing has been done throughout the cold war on both sides... The only project name I can think of offhand is the US's Stargate program. From what I've heard, there were some great successes. I haven't yet researched these projects, but some books I've found by people who were involved in Stargate and USSR experiments didn't look at all like like fluff.

Original post: micdeath

LOL i just can't stop laughing at those comments about teh gevernment. OK the way I see it, say your are the the leader of an army taht is unsurpassed by any other army. Now i KNOW and practice some cryokinesis techniques taht could (if given i had enough energy and some time to gather) I, a single person would be able to wipe out an enteir army, same goes to anybody here who do hard core stuff. NWO say you KNEW a paticular person coudl do this, would you not WANT this person fighting on your side? yhea you would. BUT the general KNOWS taht teh givin person could as easyly turn around and do teh same as he/she did to the fallen army. one method taht comes into mind is chemicle brain wash. effective, deadly and VERY unethicle. ya. anyway..can you see why governments are LOOKING for people with such powers? HELL, even some government (and sub-government ops) are trying to get rid of us becuase they FEAR us very much as we could at a wim (or at least adepts and masters) can alter teh reality of the natural coarse of nature. so. now do you see why some government try to get us? and while some try to get rid of us? baa..i am just babbling about, giving opinions of what i see and think, take what you want from what i said, and think about anything

Original post: K.A. Malik

The evidence that no great government agency is out to get me is that noone's come after me or anyone I know.

A single psi is NOT going to wipe out an army; if you think you're about to do something like that you've been watching too much DBZ. The greatest use of an individual occultist to an army would be for recon... remote viewing/astral projection, which they're already doing without kidnapping and brainwashing us.

As for 'witch hunters,' there are also psychos out to kill people from every other profession, and they're neither more numerous nor more potent than any other psychos out there.

Original post: Wiseone

yes i agree with Malik on this one as it is possible to pull a DBZ move it requires A LOT of energy and youd be in energy burnout i would thin after using it once and it may not be too large of a blast anyhow.

Original post: ChaosTech

Well thanks everyone. Oh and Micdeath, lay off the sci-fi, fantasy, and anime, please.

Whiping out a single person, let alohe an army, is retarded. If you knew anything about psi, you would know that such a feat, if even possible for a human being, would require so many years of training even from a very natural psychic, that it would be quite frankley, a giant waste of time, as picking up a gun and pulling the trigger is far faster, easier, and always more efficant than using psi to harm someone. As a rule of thumb it's always easier to "go with the flow" of the natural laws of the universe, than go against them.

Yes, I can produce pyrokinesis, but doing something like the girl on the movie Hellboy does, is unimaginable to me, and even though we may have the potential to do such a thing, the training required to learn how to control something like fire on such a scale is beyond human, or atleast seems that way.

Most people that are quite good in psi, can't simply do it on command, as it takes a while to quiet ones mind and then the intensely focuse on the psychich feat desired. If you are distracted at all you have to start all over. I fail to see how this would be any use to anyone interested in applying it to combat, like a government and it's army.

Also, unless a psychic is willing to do what is asked of them, they can not be forced to do it via chemicals. You forget how the whole damn thing works in the fisrt place, which is via focused will. I imagine a psychic could be threatened to do such things, but even in this case it would most prabably yeald no results, as being forced to do something doesn't equal will and infact the opposite of will.

Anyway these are just my thoughts on the subject. I've been doing alot of research and psychism seems to be more know of via demonstrations then most of us are aware of.
The problem is that especially in the case of using psi to retrive information, you always run the risk of imposed data, and thus it will be flawed. I've noticed that all the people who are naturals, or have developed psi skills, have a bg problem when it comes to attempting to retrive date via telepathy, empathy, etc, and are more accurate when it just comes to them out of them blue. Although I know this can be overcome, but it requires many years on the on the path of self awareness, as I do know one person who is in her 60s, has been practicing both magick and psychism for over 40 years and is extremely accurate in data retriving via psi. She has never been interested in any other form of psychism though, and has instead focused on her data retrieving skills, as she uses them in helping people who need it.


So yes, perhaps governments, corporations, etc, actively are on the lookout for people with psi talents, but unless they are willing to do so, it's pointless to try to make them as it wouldn't work. On the other hand natural psychics who don't understand why they can do the things they do I imagine would be good canidates.

But brainwashing, chemicals, etc, could not, would not, and will never be able to control a psychic, natural and or developed, as psi simply doesn't work that way. Also it makes perfect sense why governments would be interested in thing like remote viewing or even telepathy, as such things could be useful as the psychic would be in an environment away from battle, and so could indeed focus. Although the results as the offical Remote Viewing book released for the public's eyes because of the freedom of information act even states in it, the results are not reliable. As many successes as they had, they had many more failures. This makes perfect sense to me, as just how bad did these psychis they employed wanted to retrive data for them? On a psychological level, which is a mjor pice of what we are dealing with here, why would any human want to spend hour on end trying to retrive information via remote viewing for a government agency? Unlike doing something like filing papers, a psychic couldn't have a bad day as it would mess up his or her reading completely. Stress which comes with jobs, any jobs, creates blocks especially in passive forms of psychism like remote viewing, telepathy, empathy, clairavoyance, etc. It makes perfect sense why the U.S. government's stargate program was shut down, as although they did have a few remarkably accurate succeses, they had way more wholly or partial failures. It would have been interesting if their report would have been more thourough and kept daily physical and psychological stress reports on the psychics, to see how their moodes effected the experiments.

Anyway though, I'm not worried at all about MIB showing up at my door as after talking with many friends about it and doing alot of deep thinking and research over the past 4 days, psychism is indeed all around us and people have detailed reports of performing suhc feats in highly scientific enviroments, but being as the modern scientific community can't even come to an agreement of how the human psyche works, it's no wonder why they have barely even paid any attention to psi.

As far as all of you with science fiction fantasies of specially trained psychis being able to do things like in movies, rpgs, novels, etc. I will tell you from my own experience, although I don't doubt the possibilty of a human being, eventually being able to do such things, let me tell you something strait up. Unless you are willing to spend your whole life meditating and practicing self awareness and self discipline, you will never be able to do such feats. Not to mention by the time you would be able to do such things you would have no desire to do so, as you would know yourself inside out, and thus have absolutely no desire or reason at all to do such a thing. The yearning for power is something you would have already seen through and saw how futile it is. In essence you would be interested in far more bigger and better things, that have little to do with shooting fireballs out of your hands or anything of the sort.

So yes I believe many of us can develop such skills to a practical level, which I have a long way to go until this is the case, but I've been asking myself something lately. It's taken me about 3 months of several times a week training to be able to produce pyrokinesis. And in order to do so it takes me about an hour of intense focus before anything even remotely physical appears, in this case that being heat. But the question I've been asking myself is, what pracitcal value does this have to me? It's takes a whole lot less effort to say the least to just light a match. Granted I might find such a thing usefull in certain situations, but after alot of deep thinking thouse "certain situations" are very very slim.

So yes there are indeed probably living masters who can move whole fricking mountains in this world, but I'm beginning to understand why they don't and never have done so.


Just my thoughts though on the subject, and I'm still going to try to develop this and other abilities even more, as although they have no practical value, and even combat value for that matter, they are still cool, even if it's just to me, and show me that indeed anything is possible.

Original post: visceral/spagyrical

I practice in front of people, but only certain select people. The only drawback I've found so far is that my friends think I'm "different" and "a little weird." It's taken a long time to finally convince a few of them that they can do it, too. Others just don't want to believe that I'm not an exception.

v/s

Original post: visceral/spagyrical

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Original post: LadyHydralisk

ChaosTech wrote:Well thanks everyone. Oh and Micdeath, lay off the sci-fi, fantasy, and anime, please.

Arrogant words coming from one claiming to be able to harness the element of fire with his mind, upon command? Is it such a stretch of belief to consider that perhaps, one who has studied a bit longer than you may have unlocked the door to even more astounding feats? You speak boldly for one I remember as being but a pup on these very forums not less than one year ago, inquiring about how to overcome your disbelief in magic.

So yes there are indeed probably living masters who can move whole fricking mountains in this world, but I'm beginning to understand why they don't and never have done so.

GOOD.

Original post: micdeath

[QUOTE=ChaosTech]Well thanks everyone. Oh and Micdeath, lay off the sci-fi, fantasy, and anime, please.

Whiping out a single person, let alohe an army, is retarded. If you knew anything about psi, you would know that such a feat, if even possible for a human being, would require so many years of training even from a very natural psychic, that it would be quite frankley, a giant waste of time, as picking up a gun and pulling the trigger is far faster, easier, and always more efficant than using psi to harm someone. As a rule of thumb it's always easier to "go with the flow" of the natural laws of the universe, than go against them.

Yes, I can produce pyrokinesis, but doing something like the girl on the movie Hellboy does, is unimaginable to me, and even though we may have the potential to do such a thing, the training required to learn how to control something like fire on such a scale is beyond human, or atleast seems that way.
[/QUOTE]LOL, ask GeNoCyDe what happened when he tried tech he learned from me. yes SOME of my techniques are idneed powerful and DOES require me to do intense mental focus and sht loads of energy. usually i have to gather mass amounts of out side energy and "flare" up my aura by tapping into my life energy (notice i said tapping and not USEING), usually a little chip of my Life energy flares me up, then i convert MOST of my aura into PURE ENRGY then i use that. being a psi-vamp helps in gathering energy. i have YET to run into someone with a powefull shield that i am unable to berid of for some time now. also, any psi-vamp who can effectivly drain a mass amount of epopel can also wipe out an army. and when i say wipe out, i mean eitehr by killing, or extremely disabled (i.e. asleep, extreme cramping, not enough energy to move around much, etc.). Oh yes, i watched hellboy some time ago, i have YET to see any pyrokinetic person able to manifist flame in their hand with out some sort of fuel. I practice cryokinesis, and i must say i am well practiced in it. what most cyrokinetic people don't get is this, true slowing down atom's rapid movment MIGHT cool down their object, they'll ONLY go as far as that, just cooling. in order to FREEZE an object is to slow down atom's vibrations. and if you REALLY wanna flash freeze an item go as far as completly stoping an atoms movment (stopping it's vibrations, stoping its rapid movement, and then stopping its internals.) now, at first it'll be hard enought o stop ONE atoms, but try mass amounts. the farthest i have gotten is slowing down the movment, and reducing teh vibrations to about half of thier original speed. (which btw is at or over the speed of light) also, by speeding them up also heats objects up. but alas, this requires lots of mental meditation and focus. and if you wanna know how good i am, i am able to "flash freeze" my surrounding area and turn metal brittle. (to the point of just tapping the damn things with ANYTHING it'll break and shatter) I would so like to make a recording to show you proof, but my web cam is lost and don't have enough money to get a came corder, let alone another web cam. but when i do, i'll record and post it.

Original post: ChaosTech

My appologies then Micdeath, and to you LadyHydralisk as well. My posts are always just my opinions based on my experience, my amount of practice, and my studies. They shouldn't be taken as fact as I don't pretend to know anything for a fact.

From my experience though you have to realize that such feats seem incredible as when I think aboutwhat it would take to do such feats from my exepience, it seems almost impossible. So I am skeptical of feats like this. If I wasn't I would be a gullable fool who would believe the words of anyone who has a computer and a good imagination.


And yes LadyHydralisk, you are correct that I only began seriously practicing magick and psi less than a year ago, but before that I spent 5 years studying occultism, mythology, religions, mysticism, philosophy and various aspects of empirical science, in a quest to try to find answers to my basic human questions like, "Is there a God," "How did the cosmos begin," etc. Admittedly armchair spiritualism and magick for that matter, I found out gets no one anywhere, and so I threw my insecurities of not knowing for sure, and just began practicing with an open mind. Of course the results have been amazing to say the least, which is why I'm still practicing, and still here. But although my own practice has shown me alot of things I thought impossible in the past, I still am very skeptical, especially when listening to others accounts, as "thar be trolls all over this here internet."

Original post: LadyHydralisk

That is, to say the least a very agreeable reply.

Original post: Jenfucius

I have a challenge for everyone and anyone. Post some video clips of your psychic abilities.