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Original post: HeadCaseBoy

basically it's like this,i've been trying to open my chakra's n balance em.however i've been having a bit of trouble with it.

meditations always been tough for me as i never liked sitting in a fixed position and my mind always wanders off into a daydream.

i found out about these hand positions n chants called mudras that are supposed to help you channel energy into your chakra's.can't seem to zero in on the energy points however even though i have seem many diagrams on where they are situated.

maybe i'm blocked or am suffering interference from outside sources as i can't seem to feel anything let alone open up my chakra's.

any thoughts??

Original post: doh

I would check out this topic: http://www.occultforums.com/showthread.php?t=5432

A lot of good pointers there. I would also check out some of the resources in the Eastern Faiths topic.

Your problem appears to be, at least to me, just the inability to "focus" on the meditation. If you are new to it, you WILL wander off (mind wise). Hell I still do on occasion and I've been meditating for over 10 years. LOL Sometimes, some meditations focus on that (the actual meditate on the wandering) because it allows you to get stuff off your mind so that you can achieve whatever it is you wish to achieve with meditation (there are as many ways to do as there are things to achieve - and that's A LOT).

And it's not as important to "sit" in a fixed position, like say the Lotus position, as it is to be comfortable so that you can relax. Unless you are trained from childhood, humans usually lack the "discipline" (for lack of better term) to sit in positions that are uncomfortable to them and be able to focus on anything outside of the discomfort or what else they could be doing. Until you can focus on your chakras, starting with only one at a time beginning with the base, you're not going to be able to clear them as completely or quickly as you can once you get "in the swing of things". It, like everything else about practicing magick, takes patience and time to get used to doing. Sometimes days, sometimes weeks or months. You can't put yourself up on a definate time-frame, though you can set some goals for yourself.

Original post: HeadCaseBoy

lots to read n think about,thanx

Original post: Will B. Dunn

Robert Bruce's New Energy Ways is a simply understood and practiced system of raising and balancing personal energies. There's an abbreviated version of his training program here: http://www.dimensional-doorways.com/NEW/ . Even in this shortened form it's rather long, but if you practice these methods you should see quick initial results and will build steadily from there with a little perseverence.

Original post: Nalyd23

Are you trying to meditate or activate your chakras? Not quite the same thing. Chakra exercises aren't always based around meditation and not all meditation is sitting and focusing. Some extreme meditations are actually better suited for someone in your position to help you get to the point where you can relax and focus. Try Undoing Yourself With Energized Meditation by Christopher S. Hyatt and Meditation : The Art of Ecstasy by Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh to start with before you get into chakra work. You don't want to activate too much before you're ready to do so.

Original post: doh

You have a point Nalyd. Chakras and meditation don't always go hand in hand. I just found it much easier to activate and open the chakras once I had the meditation down. Has anyone done it the other way around? Activate them and then work on the meditation? And if you did, what was your experience? I'd be curious to hear.

Original post: Nalyd23

I agree doh, that's what I was trying to stress there. But the problem with some people is exactly what you pointed out in your first post : the inability to get comfortable long enough to start to empty the mind and focus and all the other blah that goes with the common stereotype of meditation. I recommended the books I did because they suggest different approaches to meditation, the kinds of exercises that really do get you to the point where you actually can sit still long enough to do the stereotypical thing, kind of a preliminary to meditation. Haha. Chakra work takes a lot of forms and certain meditations are used more with the higher chakras. More physical types of exercises are used to activate the lower chakras.
Wow, I had forgotten all about this stuff until I stepped into this forum. I feel a little nostalgic. These are the things I did when I was first starting out. I think I am going to get back into this stuff and learn it all over again. I have gotten so into Magick in the last few years that I have put other things aside. I may find something new in the old.:mrgreen:

Original post: Specktackular

"Undoing Yourself With Energized Meditation And Other Devices," which Nalyd23 recommended, was the book that caused me to experience what I later would learn matched descriptions of the 6th - 8th Jhanas (highest states of meditation). In other words, that's a good book! Some of the ideas feel so stupid, but then all of a sudden something almost scary occurs and they work.

I guess I'm going to have to recommend Dr. Mumford again, which were recommended to me by moderator of the Eastern forums, Son of Mr. Gordo:

Magical Tattwa Cards by Dr. Jonn Muford

and

Chakra Kundalini Workbook by Dr. Jonn Mumford

This Mumford guy is quite a find! The Tattwa cards are one of the easiest methods for beginners. Google-search the terms "magical tattwa cards" and "tattwa Golden Dawn" and see what people are saying.

Original post: Qryztufre

[QUOTE=Will B. Dunn]Robert Bruce's New Energy Ways is a simply understood and practiced system of raising and balancing personal energies. There's an abbreviated version of his training program here: http://www.dimensional-doorways.com/NEW/ . Even in this shortened form it's rather long, but if you practice these methods you should see quick initial results and will build steadily from there with a little perseverence.[/QUOTE]
Robert Bruce has worked with the Hemi-Sync system so it reminded me of this. I skimmed though that link but did not see any mention of it (as I said SKIMMED, so I might have missed it). It might be worth trying out, so...

At www.bwgen.com in the user created files they have a chakra patern. I've not tested it...but it is there *shrug* listening to that PLUS doing the excersises (above) *might* improve your chances. The program is free and it *might* work fer ya.

I'm JUST getting into the Hemi-Sync/Bio-neural Beats thing (mainly with AP & am having GREAT results)...I'm currently not really interested in the Chakra's (yet) so I've not explored the sounds of this.

If you try it out let us know how it works

Q (is sorry fer this spam-like post)