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Original post: Josh The Lost

What would you ask him/her/them?

I personally would ask them: Gods of the universe and everything that exists within it void and full, why is it that the human consciousness seems to be just simply a byproduct of Evolution and nothing more valuable and real? Why is Life, in all it's deceptive consistencies, just a superficial catalyst that potentiates the Force of Evolution; which serves only to merely achieve a condition of balance?

Why did you keep the early humans alive when they started to develop unhealthy emotions and obsessively mourn their dead to the point where they started to manifest these ideas of religions and use them as a tool of rationalization, to justify the killing of innocent people and to validify the passing of their loved ones?

Can life exist outside of Evolution? Can anything exist outside this force?

Original post: Anathema_Oracle

Homage to Dogma: "God, why did you create the Platypus?"

Original post: Aset-Ka

If I have a question, I ask it and get an answer.

:eh:

How is human imagination a byproduct of evolution? I wouldn't call it that, since the world around us is limited and yet our imaginations are not.

^Rhetorical question to make people think. You can answer it, but thats not what I'm looking for. I already know the answer.

Original post: Scarlett_156

I ask the gods questions on an almost weekly basis, and typically get an answer back pretty quickly. The answers are almost always quite helpful. xoxo

Original post: Josh The Lost

Good to know you guys get answers, my Gods seem to try and dissuade me from venturing in these directions with my thoughts.

I have seen an ultimate truth with the peripheral perception of my minds eye but I was scared away from it by forces unknown and then my memory lost track of the pattern of thought it took me to get to that great truth. So basically I am left not knowing what it was, I just know that it was so beautiful that it made me cry.

I do get most of my questions answered, it's just that my major queries seem to be left unanswered, but not unacknowledged.

Original post: Anathema_Oracle

I just thought of another one: "Why do you let nerds like Richard Dawkins tell people you don't exist?"

Original post: Rin Daemoko

"Am I going to be okay?"

Original post: Blackbird

[QUOTE=Rin Daemoko;312107]"Am I going to be okay?"[/QUOTE]
ditto...sorta.

"what's gonna happen to me?"

Original post: Chylde

[QUOTE=Josh The Lost;312051]What would you ask him/her/them?

I personally would ask them: Gods of the universe and everything that exists within it void and full, why is it that the human consciousness seems to be just simply a byproduct of Evolution and nothing more valuable and real? Why is Life, in all it's deceptive consistencies, just a superficial catalyst that potentiates the Force of Evolution; which serves only to merely achieve a condition of balance?

Why did you keep the early humans alive when they started to develop unhealthy emotions and obsessively mourn their dead to the point where they started to manifest these ideas of religions and use them as a tool of rationalization, to justify the killing of innocent people and to validify the passing of their loved ones?

Can life exist outside of Evolution? Can anything exist outside this force?[/QUOTE]

Showing my biases here, but in both Relativistic and Quantum reality models you're begging the question. Think of it this way... if we decide everything is explainable by Evolution, then we've bounded ourselves to Evolution. We have defined ourselves into a corner.

I think if I were asking the question, it would be more like, " IS THERE a real limit in the universe, or only the limits we impose upon ourselves? Are all the laws we think we have identified truly invariant, or do we have them to hold our fears at bay? Are we self limiting?

Edited for clarity.

Original post: Josh The Lost

[QUOTE=Chylde;312147]Showing my biases here, but in both Relativistic and Quantum reality models you're begging the question. Think of it this way... if we decide everything is explainable by Evolution, then we've bounded ourselves to Evolution. We have defined ourselves into a corner.

I think if I were asking the question, it would be more like, " IS THERE a real limit in the universe, or only the limits we impose upon ourselves? Are all the laws we think we have identified truly invariant, or do we have them to hold our fears at bay? Are we self limiting?

Edited for clarity.[/QUOTE]

So your saying I need to evolve in my thinking? lol I use the term 'Evolution' allegorically simply to represent a model of the progression of Energy, I know not of any other system which would be more applicable. The human vocabulary limits me and has made my philosophy wreak of existentialism but such is the paradox of great minds like Nietzsche and Kierkegaard.

I personally believe that there are indeed limits to the Universe but all limitations in the Universe are actually temporary. In this Universe things are expanding, nothing is ever stagnant or shrinking. So using that scientific idea as a model, we can safely say that perhaps the Universe is evolving.

Aeros

Original post: Master 27

Why do I get annoyed by JTL?

-Ater

Original post: Josh The Lost

[QUOTE=Master 27;312210]Why do I get annoyed by JTL?

-Ater[/QUOTE]

A better question would be, Why do some people actively pursue being annoyed when givin freedom to ignore what is is that annoys them?

Original post: hitman777

I always get an answer, or almost always. I say almost because I may forgetting an instance at the moment.
Granted, I don't always understand the answer right away, and sometimes I may act like a baby or a spoiled brat because it may not always be what I want to hear. I like to think that I am maturing.

Original post: Kazahel

Well when I was walking with Lam once.. in a ufo style dream.. I thought He was God.. Like I really did. So I think of Him as God the Father(like Father.. Abralam). Anyway He asked me if I wanted to ask Him anything and I straight away asked "How am I doing?".. Like as in how is my life going and am I pleasing Him.. kinda like that. I also asked how many more lives to go. And He said I'd most likely fail, and I'd have two more life's and in the third generation we'd succeed. Something like that. I remember I laughed and said "typical".

Original post: petrus4

[QUOTE=Anathema_Oracle;312104]I just thought of another one: "Why do you let nerds like Richard Dawkins tell people you don't exist?"[/QUOTE]

My own answer is that if (some anywayz) people knew for sure that godforms were around, they'd never ever be true to themselves in terms of their behavior...they'd try and suck up to them in the same way that they suck up to other people. I think they feel that if people knew they existed, it would alter said people's behaviour...and that's a free will thing. I mean...as one example...if godforms existed in a totally empirical sense, how many atheists do you think would also exist? So that's just one change it would make.

I know godforms exist. I'm generally reluctant to talk about which ones, specifically, since I don't really enjoy being flamed as delusional if my own experiences don't match someone else who claims to talk to the same deity...but they're there, and they're active...or to be told, "Oh, there's no possible way you could worship ! They want , and you don't have that!"

Truth be told, I realised on reflection in the end that Jesus actually is real and active too...believe it or not, he's just a bit more subtle than most, perhaps.

I know that will sound like a contradiction, but I'm talking about the godform himself here...not some of the people who claim to follow him.

Original post: petrus4

[QUOTE=Josh The Lost;312087]
I do get most of my questions answered, it's just that my major queries seem to be left unanswered, but not unacknowledged.[/QUOTE]

I get the feeling that sometimes the answer is also, "Sorry. That's something you've got to figure out on your own. We're here to help, sure...but we're not here to live your life for you entirely. If we do that, you're not going to learn much...and that then defeats the entire point."

Original post: LordArithon

I usually get my answers from my God. The answers don't ever come in direct communication, and sometimes I have to at least go halfway to get them, but I get them.

Yet there are a set of questions I've asked that I wish I could get the answer for. God hasn't given me the answer yet and, many people have told me they know the truthful answer, yet everyone has given me a different answer.

So the question set would be. "How long has humanity been on this planet, and how many times have we been advanced like now or more advanced in the past, if we've been on this planet for a long time."

I'm curious to our past. I think a true secret to many things for us to understand lays hidden in the past. I think our ancients knew things we don't now. If we have been on this planet as homo-sapiens for 30,000 years or more then there has to be something.

Anyway that is my question for God that I ask once in a while just to see if it's my time to learn the answer. So I will keep patiently waiting till it comes.

Original post: Master 27

[QUOTE=Josh The Lost;312268]A better question would be, Why do some people actively pursue being annoyed when givin freedom to ignore what is is that annoys them?[/QUOTE]

Why does JTL think he can speak for my gods?

-Ater

Original post: Chylde

*tired*

Why do people need to pick at each other, there's so much to discuss.

G'luck to you all, each on your own path.

~au'voir~

Original post: Josh The Lost

[QUOTE=petrus4;312352]I get the feeling that sometimes the answer is also, "Sorry. That's something you've got to figure out on your own. We're here to help, sure...but we're not here to live your life for you entirely. If we do that, you're not going to learn much...and that then defeats the entire point."[/QUOTE]

Well put and That is just the feeling I get aswell. My thinking in that regard most resembles the philosophies of Fred Alan Wolf when he states "the key to life is not to be in the know but to be in the mystery." and it is within the mystery of my being were my own philosophies are manifested and it is through this that I find the significance of my own unquantifiable entity.

-JTL

Original post: Centrix

"God, are you an atheist or agnostic?" I'm guessing the former.

Original post: Josh The Lost

No offense but the ironic oxymoronicle quality of that question to your god breeds of hilarity.

My god is definitely agnostic, ftw!

Original post: corbin_israfael

Why is there suffering in the world? If we are Manifestations of God then why not create a perfect world without sadness?

I would ask this of Lord Shiva because in a myth of his in the form of Rudra he contemplates Human Suffering and the state of the world. When finished meditating he opens his eyes and tears run down his cheeks and fall to the earth to become Rudraksha (Tears of Rudra) which are the beads used to make the most sacred malas that a Shivite can possess. They have many faces called Mukhi and each number of ridges has specific attributes with 1 Mukhi being the most powerful. They are worn and even worshipped by some people as physical manifestations of the Lord Shiva.

However I find that in my mind I know the answer atleast as far as my finite mind can comprehend. Human Suffering exists because we create it ourselves. We have Free Will to do what we desire and must face the consequences. Bad things happen to good people for a reason and suffering is the greatest teacher in the world. It was the suffering that he saw that caused the Buddha to go on his Spiritual Journey and gain enlightenment to help out the world. All truely great acts are the result of suffering being inspired of it if only one has enough faith and patience to over come their situation. This is what has caused great men to do great things. The Suffering of the World is both a Curse and a Blessing. On one hand it is not pleasant but on the other without it we would have no reason to move forward or improve.

Original post: Blackbird

[QUOTE=corbin_israfael;312731]Why is there suffering in the world?[/QUOTE]
same here.

Original post: Bone_Dancer

I wouldn't ask a thing. I look at the world who's population is predominantly faithful to something considered spiritual or religious, and I figure if something hasn't paid attention to that so as to return all that faith and trust then how would they ever hear, much less answer any questions about that, from single little me.