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Original post: Sadb

I've been hearing alot about astral guardians lately does anyone know more about them . :mrgreen:

Original post: spud666

No, sorry. But why dont you try searching google for them;)

Original post: PaulS

[QUOTE=Sadb]I've been hearing alot about astral guardians lately does anyone know more about them . :mrgreen:[/QUOTE]
It depends on the tradition that you are considering. In my tradition (Arratu) the guardians are lesser gods and goddesses that guard the portals to the elemental realms. They are not only the guardians but they control the comings and goings of all through their portal.

PaulS

Original post: Sadb

I meant a human guadian of earthly and astral balance .

Original post: Hairetikos

[QUOTE="Sadb"]I meant a human guadian of earthly and astral balance . [/QUOTE] Ah. Sort of like the elusive Great White Brotherhood. I've come upon references to people who "guard the gates" in my readings and also talked to someone who claimed to do so. Dion Fortune wrote a little about these people...I just can't remember which book it was in. Maybe her book Psychic Self-defense.

Anyway, these people are supposedly very secretive. Don't expect to find them too easily, if they do indeed exist.

And, there is also supposed to be a group (Great Black Brotherhood?) that's dedicated to opening the astral gates rather then keeping them closed. These people might be a bit easier to find.

Hope that helps a little bit.

Original post: Serpentiferous

Then you mean living/incarnate people?

Iâ??ve run into people who are great at Astral Travel and have assisted others. They help dreamers return to their bodies, or help the dead go to the light. Some Esoteric Orders also have members that are dedicated to watching over others and maintaining balance on Earth. I wonâ??t say that I can personally vouch for the accuracy of their statements or quality of work, but I believe itâ??s very possible.
Occasionally, people will be recruited to perform some service or join with a group. This I know for certain. But, I donâ??t like the terms White or Black Brotherhood. I donâ??t think any human can be one or the other exclusively.

Original post: Hairetikos

[QUOTE="Serpentiferous"] Then you mean living/incarnate people? [/QUOTE] Yes. But they're certainly not bound to their material bodies. Like you mentioned, they're beyond the normal definition of "adept."

Original post: Wiseone

wow that is sure nice of them gardiuns to help people out!

Original post: Aodh

[QUOTE=Serpentiferous]They help dreamers return to their bodies
[/QUOTE] Please tell me you're meaning comatose individuals or summat and not just the average sleeping person =_=

Original post: Serpentiferous

Please tell me you're meaning comatose individuals or summat and not just the average sleeping person

I do mean the average sleeping person. :shock:

Original post: Sadb

Wow I think my search is going to be harder than I thought

Original post: Aodh

[QUOTE=Serpentiferous]I do mean the average sleeping person. :shock:[/QUOTE]Do you mind explaining why they'd need to be guided back? *has never heard of anything like this*

Original post: Wiseone

this is so interesting! i hope to be able to do this technique soon even though it can take a while!

Original post: Sadb

[QUOTE=Hairetikos]Ah. Sort of like the elusive Great White Brotherhood. I've come upon references to people who "guard the gates" in my readings and also talked to someone who claimed to do so. Dion Fortune wrote a little about these people...I just can't remember which book it was in. Maybe her book Psychic Self-defense.

Anyway, these people are supposedly very secretive. Don't expect to find them too easily, if they do indeed exist.

And, there is also supposed to be a group (Great Black Brotherhood?) that's dedicated to opening the astral gates rather then keeping them closed. These people might be a bit easier to find.

Hope that helps a little bit.[/QUOTE]I searched for the great white brotherhood and the only thing to come up where either about the twelve gates and their twelve angel guadians or how alians came and created their own government and a few K.K.K sites . But nothing about humans acting as gaudians to astral gates and when ever hearing of guadians the number of gates is not specified .
Maybe too many people have token buffy the vampire slayer and charmed a little bit too seriously and created a whole religion on it , LOL , I wouln't doubt it . I know some people that worship the god off the craft .

Original post: pathless

maybe, Samael Aun Weor....one of his books talked about this stuff cant remember which one

Original post: Serpentiferous

[QUOTE=Sadb]I searched for the great white brotherhood and the only thing to come up where either about the twelve gates and their twelve angel guadians or how alians came and created their own government and a few K.K.K sites . But nothing about humans acting as gaudians to astral gates and when ever hearing of guadians the number of gates is not specified .
Maybe too many people have token buffy the vampire slayer and charmed a little bit too seriously and created a whole religion on it , LOL , I wouln't doubt it . I know some people that worship the god off the craft .[/QUOTE]The group I'm with has essay books that they make availible to the public, so I don't think I'm breaking any rules by sharing from one of them (If I am, I'm sure I'll hear about it 8| ). The GWB story goes like this -in it's very condensed form...

There was an esoteric order in Egypt that served as keepers of wisdom. They were the ones that figured out the measurements for the pyramids and oversaw it's construction. Under some persecution, as Egypt moved toward practices they didn't approve of, they left the country seeking a new home. Eventually they ended up in Tibet. Groups like the essenes are said to have sprung from them as they passed through various countries on their search. They left behind the gifts of qabala, astronomy, mathmatics, healing etc.

Memebers of the GWB were not supposed to stay in isolation, but after being taught for a period of time they were to return to their life and better their world. Eventually the whole group disbanded and spread around the world starting other groups, so that the mysteries could be shared with all nationalities. It's from these "returned" members of the GWB that the initiatic Orders of today are said to have come.

From those members who finally ascended (having reached a level of perfection) there came another group. This group is the... you guessed it... ascended masters. There are supposed to be 144 of these master who are no longer in need of reincarnation, although some will for specific purposes. They do still teach and guide, but no longer in human form.

None of this is provable, of course, but it's the foundation for legitimacy that several Orders claim.

Original post: Hairetikos

Sadb wrote:I searched for the great white brotherhood and the only thing to come up where either about the twelve gates and their twelve angel guadians or how alians came and created their own government and a few K.K.K sites . But nothing about humans acting as gaudians to astral gates and when ever hearing of guadians the number of gates is not specified .
Maybe too many people have token buffy the vampire slayer and charmed a little bit too seriously and created a whole religion on it , LOL , I wouln't doubt it . I know some people that worship the god off the craft .

It's fruitless searching for these things, in my opinion. It's been my experience that your destiny smacks you in the face as soon as you stop looking for it.

I wouldn't take the whole Great White Brotherhood thing too seriously. There's way too many possibilities of what this could be in reference to. One thing that may interest you is Zecharia Sitchin's work. The Annunaki (all explained in his research) fits the description of the GWB quite nicely. Another good read that's along these lines is Alien Dawn by Colin Wilson, although this takes a different angle then Sitchin's work and contains more implications then theories.

This is an interesting site that relates a little bit to this discussion. What's of particular interest is this:

The Priesthood of UR is a special priesthood which will transform URth (Earth) sciences and the consciousness of mankind. They are the writers of the UR texts, given a mandate by the Great White Brotherhood.

I would suggest that your first step might be to find this Priesthood of Ur.

Original post: Anathema_Oracle

When I did past life hypnosis..yes, a little cooky, in 2001 I encountered guardians of the gateways, or one specifically called Marelin, apparently they're referred to as Simrin, which means guardian.

Anyway, 3 years of vain searching for corroboration has left no trace of my subconscious meanderings, but it's interesting other people have analogous stories to this

Original post: Anathema_Oracle

Simrin might also mean child of the moon, but maybe I just made that up...this Marelin, the guardian, was a chronicler and scribe for a group of incoporeal beings called Aka, who were apparently made of light or were light beings (not very original I know) but there you have it..

While the Simrin generally were human like people who used whatever metatech or psionics or whatever, magick for a better word, to be rulers/elite of their world and holding the gateways closed and from teaching humans too many of the 'mysteries'

Original post: Mmothra

Robert Bruce discusses "Astral Knights" in his book Astral Dynamics and describes them as more advanced astral travellers who come to the aid of those lost or in danger. Maybe that is more along the lines of what you are looking for?

If you Google it be prepared for a lot of RPG.

Original post: Anathema_Oracle

I guess I can't answer the question, I don't have a very firm belief in HGA or even the astral realm, which makes my above statements about mystical guardians from another dimension a little redundant but..

As a tool, alot of people develop a relationship with what they perceive as an ascended, more evolved guardian/master on the astral, whether psychological or not, The mind and astral can be scary scary places to travel alone, so even if your friend is only figuratively real, at least there's somewhere there on your journeys

Original post: Schaluach

Im taking channeling lessons now and the guy who gives them got all the information from michel(thats the hebrew way, as im israeli) throw channeling

there are 3 diffrent guidences, the terrstrial(artzi) guidence given by advenced souls who are finished with thire progression and now help all rest of us(the metirial us) in matirial affairs
there are the angelic guidence , for me they represent the divine order and they help in many ways, according to our soul agreement("signed" before our reincarnation)
that is...they will only help in ways that wont damage our experience upon the earth
thogh as the eaon transform now nothing is certin...

and there is the "higher" guidnece recived by those who are able to, so they can give this info to mankind

i know this information is not very clear, and my writen english aint that good
if u have questions...feel free to ask

bwt im new to the forum my name is shachar(which means dawn) im 19 years old from israel

Original post: Hypnos

[QUOTE=Sadb]I know some people that worship the god off the craft .[/QUOTE]
OMG! :lol:

Actually, I´ve found an online "wiccan" grimoire which is based on the tv-series "Charmed". It was the laugh of the century, I felt 10 years younger after it.

Original post: Quidgyboo

[QUOTE=Hypnos]OMG! :lol:

Actually, I´ve found an online "wiccan" grimoire which is based on the tv-series "Charmed". It was the laugh of the century, I felt 10 years younger after it.[/QUOTE]
Well if these people were Chaose Mages there wouldn't be a problem here. LoL. Actually, I'm sure my brother was a Charmed One, one of those Wiccans, a year or so ago.

Original post: yoki

The great white brotherhood features in Theosophical literature.
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The Mahatmas are members of a superhuman group, "The Great White Brotherhood." These adepts (Mahatmas) have obtained perfection, and committed their existence to showing us the way to perfection.
Helen Blavatsky whoâ??s channelled works first bought this concept to the public formed the society in the nineteenth century. The society is also responsible for making known the ideas of reincarnation and karma in the west. Naturally there were individuals who knew of these laws prior to this but Theosophy can be credited with helping start what could be called the new age or the current explosion of interest in the occult