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Necromancy Resources

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:14 am
by Khelric
I've started this thread because I'm looking to amass a collection of information on the art of Necromancy. Resources online are limited, and if present at all, are full of conjecture, sketchy translations and are of suspicious origin at best. This board has proven to be a tremendous well of information to draw upon and despite a healthy selection of evocation information, I find Necromancy is barely touched upon.

I would like to see personal accounts of the practice of the art as well as resources anyone may have laying around. Really anything on Necromancy or related spirit work is of value here.

The only lead I have thusfar is Daniel Ogden's "Greek and Roman Necromancy", though I've been unable to obtain it yet due to grumpy internet. It can be found here: http://www.mediafire.com/?lzmmr2oi4nm

Thanks in advance to anyone who contributes.

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:01 am
by Vashta
The only book I've ever read on necromancy is "The necromantic ritual book" http://www.amazon.com/Necromantic-Ritua ... 0944087035

It's quite a thin book, only 50 pages or so, but the feeling it gives you is interesting, and it has a few rituals but they might not be suitable for a public space although it does have a good guide to getting in tune with Death. I suppose you could build a golem too but just forget to tell your flatmates that the clay has bone fragments all through it...

Anyway, not a big help I know but unfortunately all I can provideon this topic. I do recommend reading the chapters on getting to know Death though, gives you a feel for the energy, which should help.

Good luck ^_^

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:33 pm
by Khelric
Thanks for that bit of info, Vashta.

Admittedly, I'm sometimes I bit leary of Leilah Wendell. I've found her works to occasionally be a little too flowery for my tastes, but of course that's just my own opinion and different strokes for different folks. It's definitely nice to hear from someone who has read the book and the attunement section does seem quite interesting for anyone aspiring to practice the art.

Richard Kieckhefer's "Forbidden Rites" seems to have mixed reviews and I'm also interested in snagging that. If anyone knows the location of a pdf, that would be excellent.

The topic of Necromancy seems to only revolve around supposedly ancient medieval manuscripts and I'm sad to see that it hasn't had a contemporary facelift like most other schools of magic have.

And just a suggestion:

If you read a book that you truly found helpful and informative, please try to support your author. PDFs/online resources are always excellent, especially if you're uncertain whether a book is worth purchasing, but sometimes the world of economics has an impact on the occult and if there's no incentive for these authors to continue writing, they may cease to. If you can't afford it, then try when you can, but remember the massive amounts of work that goes into producing a quality book.

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:23 pm
by Nahemah
Richard Kieckhefer's "Forbidden Rites" seems to have mixed reviews and I'm also interested in snagging that. If anyone knows the location of a pdf, that would be excellent.
You will find this on Scribd.I checked.

http://www.scribd.com/

Konstantinos? I know he's quite popular in some circles.

I am also a bit leary of Leilah Wendell,she seems a bit heavy on the 'romantic' part sometimes.

I don't know how relevant this is,but the Ars Falcis site is still up on the web,it has a links and a sources page on it.

http://www23.brinkster.com/falcis/

I was wondering about Demonolatry too,a bit,I have a friend who works with the Dead who is also a Demonolator, but I 'm not sure if the two are coincidental or connnected.
I can ask her if she has any other recommendations.

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:48 pm
by Khelric
Great find Nahemah! Thanks for that lead.

I've also been interested in demonolatry for quite some time, so anything your friend may have to say would be highly relevant to my interests. Really, the only author I've seen write extensively on the topic is S. Connolly, but the book of hers, "The Complete Book of Demonolatry", seems to lack solid information and reads more like a loose philosophy book on the subject.

I'm familiar with Ars Falcis. It's got basic magical concepts that just have "dark" terms pinned on. In one of my other posts I mention my original naive thought years ago of a necromancer as an old man in a dungeon covered in sigils, blood and having bones all over. Ars Falcis seems to cater to that kind of thing that, to me, seems more steeped in fun and fantasy than true practice.

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:00 pm
by Nahemah
http://www.amazon.com/Honoring-Death-Ar ... 037&sr=8-1

She also has this.

It seems Demonolatry does have connections with some Necromantic arts.

Ah,nostalgia,looking at Ars Falcis again,lol,I didn't think it'd be that relevant,but I was surprised it's still around online.

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:27 am
by Khelric
Ever resourceful I see, Nahemah!

I'll have to check out Connolly's Necromancy book. I'm fairly skeptical of the author, having read her work before and finding it to be a collection of carefully constructed rhetoric, essentially books made of filler material. I give potential readers one bit of advice: take what you read with a grain of salt. In fact, that could be good advice for anything you happen to read.

I'd like to add a note that I tackled a daunting task and read Daniel Ogden's "Greek and Roman Necromancy" in its entirety today. It's an incredibly in-depth tome on the origin of Necromancy, both historically and linguistially. It discusses prominent practitioners, locations steeped in lore, rituals and even Necromancy depicted in ancient epics from some well-known figures. I highly suggest it to anyone seriously interested in delving into and practicing the Necromantic arts. I won't lie, it reads just like a high school textbook at times, but if you have the love of the art, this gem will please you to no end.

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:15 pm
by Nahemah
Perhaps,you might also find some useful material in : Luciferian Sorcery,by Michael Ford? [You'll find it online,if you look.]


Necromantic Arts are most often part and parcel of a greater whole,of particular systems of belief / paradigms.I work from a Norse perpective mostly and this is true for me and also for other types of Magickians/Pagans/Occultists that I know.

I think finding stand alone resources for Necromancy is rather difficult without falling back on the proverbial stereotypical ' robed mage hunched in a tower over weighty vellum tomes,chanting in Latin,while burning Sulphur and rattling bones' sort of stuff.No offence intended to mages in towers,of course,but most information I can find is either of that ilk or related to other particular sets of Practices.

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:41 pm
by Khelric
I think the work has been hard to find in-depth resources for because of the bad rap Necromancy has received from Christian scholars back in the day (many of which used to be or were secretly practitioners of the "dark arts"). Greek hero cults and ancestor veneration was commonplace until the use of boy-mediums by necromancers and lecanomancers (those who divined through bowls) became twisted by those with political agendas and tales of child sacrifice became prolific. After about 1 B.C., necromancy begins to take on a very evil appearance by commoners, but offerings were still given to the dead. The new twist is that they were presented to the gods such as Hades or Persephone exclusively rather than to the dead as well. Mostly native Persian "shamans" still continued the traditional practice of necromancy through the regular means in seclusive ways, but also included the reading of animal entrails into their repetoir which proved less problematic for the everyday person to accept. Even lecanomancy and hydromancy was declared demon work by Augustine and had heavy stigma attached to them for use of boy mediums or reliance on ghosts or spirits. After this point, necromancers had false stories floating around of having ripped fetuses out of pregnant women for the purpose of divining their entrails. These claims have never been substantiated in any way, but people were terrified of necromancers and the practices were discarded almost completely. We can't know what was done in secret and Necromantic ritual only survived in literary works like that of Cicero and ancestor veneration practices until about 200 AD and the trail quickly grows cold after that. In a period of 300 years Necromancers went from venerated ghost-layers and men of knowledge to demonic infant slaughterers. It's no surprise little information survived.

My hope is to dig through the nonsense and either find surviving manuscripts or find books from people who've already done that.

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:07 pm
by hyperRitual
You might already know this, but I did not see it mentioned above; there are necromantic rituals in Levi's Transcendental Magic and Wait's Book of Ceremonial Magic.
http://archive.org/details/transcendentalma00leviuoft
http://www.sacred-texts.com/grim/bcm/bcm79.htm

I like Wendell because her rituals seem real. I have encountered Connolly in my own searches for necromantic works, but like others here, I have not found her stuff especially valuable. http://www.demonolatry.org/

This is a fun read: http://cthulhufiles.com/necro/necromancy.htm

Sorceress Cagliastro styles herself a necromancer, and has written books about blood magic and demonolatry, but no raising of the dead to my knowledge.

Speaking of raising the dead, you might look into re/sources from the Spirtualism movement, which is a modern form of necromancy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritualism

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:39 pm
by Khelric
Hyper, I'd completely forgotten about those first two books. I've got to dig into those asap. Thanks a bunch for reminding me.

As far as Wendell, I've already explored her "Necromantic Ritual Book" and found it a bit too filled with hyperbole (just like I've found Connolly's work) for my tastes. As I always say though, different strokes for different folks. I try to give everything that I read a fair shake. Even New York bestselling authors have made flops.

I really appreciate the contributions from everyone here and I hope we can continue to make a solid core of information for people interested in Necromancy.

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:43 pm
by Nahemah
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BOOK-FORBIDDE ... 564997374d

Infernal Necromancy,apparently. I have no idea whether this is good,bad or indifferent,but thought I 'd post it anyway.Finbarr books sell on e bay,so might be worth looking through their listings for other books/authors too?

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:40 pm
by hyperRitual

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:55 pm
by Nahemah
I stickied the topic,so it stays easy to find.

I think perhaps including more on Necromantic arts that are part of particular systems might be helpful too.

I 'll see what I can find for links /resources and add them later.

Are you interested in Ancestor veneration and aspects of working with these spirits Khelric?

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:59 pm
by jthorp
I have two Necromantic books that I've written. One is more of a short treatise.

Check them out at www.lulu.com/spotlight/darkhazel

J. Thorp

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:18 am
by Khelric
Nahemah:

The topic of ancestor veneration does interest me, though I've no interest in working with my own ancestors.

jthorp:

I'd be delighted to see what you've written. It's a rare occasion to be able to speak with the author of a book. Perhaps after reading, you will allow us to pick your brain a bit?

Again, a round of thanks to everyone reading, writing and contributing. Together as a collective, we can expand our knowledge infinitely.

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:49 pm
by jthorp
Hi there.

Yeah, you guys are welcome to pick my brain. My work with Demonolatry and the Dead are very different than S. Connolly's work (Yes, we now get along fine, thank Demons!). It's more based on Palo Mayombe than anything else. My books talk about owning a Spirit Pot. This is a very powerful tool. Not quite the nganga's of Palo, of course. My work with the Dead is mostly working with the spirits to achieve a goal or to enlighten myself, open up psychic doors so to speak, create change with my will (magic). The Spirit Pot is something that you can make yourself with herbs, objects, stones, sticks (palos). I have not trained anyone on how to make a Spirit Pot yet. If anyone is interested, let me know or check out my books on Lulu.

I will try to make my rounds on this forum. Feel free to shoot me an email at disirdevi@hotmail.com or PM me if you have questions.

Thanks!

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:45 pm
by chris218
have u read the work of n.a-a218 , liber falxifer and Liber Falxifer II The Book of Anamlaqayin???
thats the closest thing i can think of that fits your question :)

think the first book is sold out and probably is quiet expensive if Ur after buying it but know that u can get it in pdf from thaz Internet , and as for the second book ixaxaar still got it;)

Taken form ixaxaar:
"The Second Book of Master Falxifer will delve further into the Necrosophic mysteries of Qayin, but will also cast a black light on some crucial aspects previously hinted at and at the same time veiled, in the first book of the Left-Handed Reaper. One of these all-important aspects concerns the identity of and the gnosis granted by the Hidden Mother of Our Bloodline, the Bride of Qayin.

The work will once again present an extensive set of both worded and wordless manifestations of Sorcerous Gnosis and provide access to previously hidden keys to both low and high forms of Necrosophic Nigromancy, Necromancy, Ancestral Veneration, Herbal Demonology and give new detailed instruction about how the powers of the insignias, talismans and fetishes of the Lord of the Harvest can be further employed in order to achieve both temporal and spiritual power, victory and transcendence, all by walking in the fiery and blessed footsteps of the First Ones who traversed the Paths of Nod.

Some of the topics presented within the Second Book of Our Master are: esoteric discourses revealing the mythic foundation of our Qayinitic Gnosticism, the Hidden Bride of Qayin, Her secret formulas of Calling and Names of Power, Her sigils of both high and low sorcery, the unified and transcendent aspect of the Twin-Flame of Sataninsam, the Dark Dead and their hidden and most fearful aspects, the cleansing, protective and empowering baths, the herbal formulas and activations of the 7 Key Sigils of Death, the Mysteries of the Black In Green, exploring the powers of the First Tiller and the workings of the Esoteric Sigil of the Green Skull, the rites of protection and concealment, instructions concerning the creation and employing of the Qayinitic Bone Talismans (i.e. Payes), specific fetishes of some of the most important aspects of the Master, like for example the Fetish of the Lord of the Mound and the Skull of the First Harvester, the role of the First Dead within the Cult and His Sigils of Calling, talismanic work against the law, the ensouling Tinctures of Qayin and His Rose-Crowned Bride, the secret Kelim of Baaltzelmoth, the Grand Kliffotic Sigil of the King of the Ravens of Death, further teachings concerning the Mighty Dead and the workings of the Altar of the Dead, prayers, invocations and talismanic forms used for the channelling of the powers of both the soul and the spirit of Qayin and much more.

Regular Edition: Hardcover book in black cloth with a gold stamping of Sigil of Anamlaqayin on the cover, black endpapers, gold silk-ribbon bookmark. Fullcover dustjacket. 474 pages, numerous illustrations. First Edition of 1200 copies, each book consecrated and handnumbered."

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:03 pm
by jthorp
Liber Falxifer is a laugh. Don't buy into those silly "Cult of Qayin" books. Liber Falxifer can be found here: http://www.scribd.com/Bragel21/d/551656 ... lxifer-666

DON'T waste your money!! Read it online first before making a large purchase such as this.

It's really only good for beginners.Sorry, just telling it like it is. I don't want to seem arrogant and whatnot...

Sincerely,
J. Thorp

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:18 pm
by chris218
i can say that i agree on that considering the first book .
but the second from what i heard are MUCH bether .

Ether it works or are total crap , am a sucker for occult books and its a beautiful piece so i would say that its a must for Anny occult book collector . [thumbup]

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:51 pm
by jthorp
I can certainly understand the love of books. I have quite a collection myself. :)

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:33 pm
by Angelus7769
Khelric wrote:I've started this thread because I'm looking to amass a collection of information on the art of Necromancy. Resources online are limited, and if present at all, are full of conjecture, sketchy translations and are of suspicious origin at best. This board has proven to be a tremendous well of information to draw upon and despite a healthy selection of evocation information, I find Necromancy is barely touched upon.

(If this should be in the divination section, I apologise, but it seemed more appropriate here as a form of evocation.)

I would like to see personal accounts of the practice of the art as well as resources anyone may have laying around. Really anything on Necromancy or related spirit work is of value here.

The only lead I have thusfar is Daniel Ogden's "Greek and Roman Necromancy", though I've been unable to obtain it yet due to grumpy internet. It can be found here: http://www.mediafire.com/?lzmmr2oi4nm

Thanks in advance to anyone who contributes.

Le-olahm,

Iam Angelus out of El Paso, TX,where necromancy and other pagans dwell rampantly. I do many forms of necromancy but my best way is through skrying. casting your circle around your mirror and one around you is like watching a movie at the theatre with the exception that the characters in the movie talk back.
What do you think?

Le-olahm, Angelus7769

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:32 pm
by darkcloud
jthorp wrote:Liber Falxifer is a laugh. Don't buy into those silly "Cult of Qayin" books. Liber Falxifer can be found here: http://www.scribd.com/Bragel21/d/551656 ... lxifer-666
DON'T waste your money!! Read it online first before making a large purchase such as this.
It's really only good for beginners.Sorry, just telling it like it is. I don't want to seem arrogant and whatnot...
Sincerely,
J. Thorp
I agree with this. The overheated writing style alone made me suspicious; though, I have to admit that I've only read the first book. In a way, it seems kind of admirable that they're creating a new variant mythology, but their "necrosophic" philosophy just seems like dark-tinted gnosticism. I guess they say as much. The relation between the Falxifer section and the Quainite mythos is also a bit strained in Book I.

darkcloud

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:08 pm
by Occultess
This site claims to have some downloads of it available:

http://www.n8fan.net/item/clavicola-di- ... e-ridolta/

There is a book that I ran across while looking for this that mentions them as two different books.

Re: Necromancy Resources

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:26 am
by Bokor
I think it was already mentioned but Konstantinos is a good source. He touches lightly with the subject in both his books Nocturnicon and Gothic Grimoire, giving different rituals on how to contact the dead. He also came out with a book called Speak with the Dead that gives numerous ways to contact the dead. While this book gives many different ways to contact the dead it doesn't really deal with divination.

Bokor