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I don't expect the help of anyone here but the tools at our disposal aren't worth much if we don't use them and so I put this out there in the hope that some advice will be offered.

I have been seeking for as long as I can remember but I don't seem to have found a formal system that I can work with fully. Instead I have fragments of systems which I like, comparative religious study and other areas of interest, some of which I have quite an in-depth intellectual knowledge about. I am very much rooted in a Neoplatonic theology and it is through that paradigm that I view other systems. I also have a very deep interest in ancient magical systems such as those attributed to Zoroaster, Hermetism and the Greeks.

What I feel the need to do is to get actually working and that is what I am looking for advice with. Can anyone recommend daily practices which I can make part of my life and which will take me further down the path (the end of which I believe is adepthood)?

For a while I have considered joining the A.'.A.'. even though I am not a Thelemite and don't recognize Liber AL simply because it offers a workable and formal system which shares very similar goals to my own.

Good question. The fact that you appear to be focused on 'adeptship' shows you are pointed in the right direction.
I would suggest you chose a system, of course that you feel good with. However, i also suggest you keep in mind that if you chose a system, which has been clearly designed by someone(or something) that has already been there- then your chances of reaching illumination are somewhat higher.
One trouble with Crowley, is that he spoke(or wrote) to adepts and Priests. He had a grounding with the GD. The only system i could recommend is GD, because it is a complete system. The LBR is a ritual designed to assist you in achieving adept ship.- I can personally assure you. I have work right now, however, i can speak more later.

It appears the GD system is enochian and was given to mankind via the inner planes- for a good reason too. The Middle Pillar and more are recommended.

Many systems are not nearly as complete as the GD

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I sometimes wonder. I wonder if it is worth giving away gems.

Did anyone here at all pick up the gems i threw?

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The topic has lots of view hits,Q789.

So folk are checking it out,I think it might be in the wrong folder,though.

I get that the OP talks of Ancient systems,so put it here,but maybe another folder will attract more replies/interaction.

I 'll put it in CM for now and we can see if it takes off more.

Q789 wrote:I sometimes wonder. I wonder if it is worth giving away gems.

Did anyone here at all pick up the gems i threw?

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Thank you for your kind response to my initial post. Although I was able to read it shortly after you posted it I haven't been able to get online in any real sense until now due to a move.

I'm fairly sure that you are right in that a system which is already in place is most effective. However, I must say that in my case having tried the Golden Dawn and Thelema in an active way (I've joined groups and orders in the past and participated actively) and although I share philosophical roots with the Golden Dawn in Neoplatonism and Cabala it feels as though when I worked with it I was attempting to conform myself to something outside of myself rather than using the system to unfold. It felt a bit like I was trying to fit a round peg in a square hole. In my case I'm now fairly certain that a solitary path through the jungle is the way forward.

Again thank you for taking the time to reply.

I think it is best to develop your own system. It.helps you understand the fundementals better and prevents any secret back doors from affecting you. You can use or throw away whatever doesn't work or you don't like. Why master something of an other when if you develop your own you can master yourself. Just mho.

Yes I can see your point Stuk. However, my point is that if you where to decide you want to achieve, say, knowledge and conversation of your HGA. Then, especially considering how difficult this is, and also how few people achieve it- wouldn't it be wise to consider a system that you know has worked for other people? A system that has a proven track record? A system that you know( well at least i can assure you) was given to us by the inner planes - not just made up on some dudes computer??
you may also consider your own culture. For example a person born and raised in the jungles of Benin- may very well do well with the local Voundoun tradition. This is both a cultural issue and probably a genetically one.
That is not to say you are to treat it like a dogmatic religion- oh no never. However, i would advise anyone who is serious about achieving very real changes in consciousness- to consider systems of magick that are both detailed and proven to be geared towards enlightenment(or whatever you wish to call it). From my experience i can assure you of this, but also from my observations of initiates. There are always those who flirt around experimenting with different systems, who never settle down for any serious work with a single system- and those are the initiates who stay that way.
In the least give a system a thorough test- once you have reached adeptship you are on your own anyhow.

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