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A friend has told me he is being subjected to staring attacks from low-level anger magicians. (I won't honor them with the term magickians.)

He is looking for defenses and counter-attacks that can be used during the attacks.

Any suggestions appreciated.

Smile or make faces; banish with laugher

Smile or make faces; banish with laugher

QFT and seconded.Laughter is a very powerful energy.

It seems like a bit of a silly answer, but there is a nugget of truth in there

I know the kind of thing you're talking about: A person uses their energy to apply a sense of oppression to another person; it's really little more than a parlour trick with energy manipulation. True, if someone used it on you at the wrong moment, it could upset your balance, but it's something I once heard called "Red magick". It's illusory, the person isn't exercising any real control over you, they just trick you into giving them power over you. They're looking for a fear reaction; don't give them it.

Banish the energy they're throwing at you, or do something else with it. Practice energy manipulation if it's too intense to deal with, and build confidence so that if it happens again, you can just swat the sense of oppression away with a smile ^_^

Dion Fortune in Psychic Self Defense suggests that if you focus, not on the starer's eyes, but on the space between the brows, then you are immune from that attack.

I personally find that a wink and a smile throws off most people's concentration, making the staring itself fairly ineffectual.

I am rubber,
You are glue,
Let it bounce off me,
And stick to you.


The best response to a stare attack in my book is a good solid poke in the eyes a la 3 Stooges...

prochaine_etape wrote:A friend has told me he is being subjected to staring attacks from low-level anger magicians. (I won't honor them with the term magickians.)

He is looking for defenses and counter-attacks that can be used during the attacks.

Any suggestions appreciated.

Many psychic shields out there...a weak ago i was reading this: If negative energy keeps coming at me, I don't sit back and continue to shield until exhausted. The ancient warriors knew that any purely defensive battle is doomed, if it goes on long enough. Invoking the Lady and Lord is probably the surest and simplest defense. Malevolent entities (wether astral or earthly) tend to avoid the presence of the Deity. In fact, the nastier they are, the faster they run. But like most kids, I don't like bothering Mom and Dad all the time with small problems I've been taught to handle myself. The most basic technique is calling White Fire. This is the Light energy of the universe, the silver-white of the Moon and the fire-white of the Sun, the sum total of the magical Elements. Let it flow in from all around you until you feel like a ball of lightning, then send a directed bolt of it back in the direction the negative energy came from. While the mind alone is all you need to do this, I find my sword/athame is a perfect tool for this.If this doesn't work, you can still call on the Lady and Lord in their warrior/protector aspects to help you.

We can give many suggestions here...you can also use holy water and salt to protect your friend.You should prepare them with the right way and recite them with the correct psalm.
One more...tell him to circle his place with woodcoal.Extremely strong when it comes to protection.

IOLH7, why just shield against negative energy? Why not just absorb it and convert it to your preferential type of energy?

Or just grab hold of it and send back. And/or point out the weird staring person to others so you all can giggle at them.

Stukov wrote:IOLH7, why just shield against negative energy? Why not just absorb it and convert it to your preferential type of energy?

The most ancient scriptures reffer to the importance of not absorbing this kind of energy.That's why the biggest magicians around the world,created the most accurate sheilds.This energy is dangerous if absorbed cause it might lead us to a state of illness that maybe we'll never be able to cure.Or cure just a part of it.Why risk with your health?

xaarea wrote:Or just grab hold of it and send back. And/or point out the weird staring person to others so you all can giggle at them.

Send it back...hmm...I'm always against this method.All of my years in this path,i was trying to use justice in all of my wishes and rituals.It's not for me to decide something so serious.I'm not God...i just let the universe decide.And believe me.It's always there to here.Always.That's my opinion,my friend.

ΙΟΛΗ7 wrote:

Stukov wrote:IOLH7, why just shield against negative energy? Why not just absorb it and convert it to your preferential type of energy?

The most ancient scriptures reffer to the importance of not absorbing this kind of energy.That's why the biggest magicians around the world,created the most accurate sheilds.This energy is dangerous if absorbed cause it might lead us to a state of illness that maybe we'll never be able to cure.Or cure just a part of it.Why risk with your health?

I disqgree. At a certain point in one's development, I feel that it's wise to learn to metabolize the negative energy around you. The source of power for a magician, the quality that gives their work a volitional oomph is the place where both negative and positive atavistic call home. All emotions/energy/will contain both positive and negative aspects. If you feel the positive with any intensity, then you're bound to feel any negative with equal intensity. If you're in contact with your higher self, you know that these forces are not what makes up that ever elusive "I".

While I agree that a novice practitioner should initially focus on developing their whole self before attempting to take on challenge of developing "other selves", I feel that shielding yourself from negative energy only serves to disconnect you from the world in which you practice, thereby diluting your magical will. It's diluted because refusing to be influenced insulates your above, so it ends up speaking a language that the below will, at best, ignore. Or worse, misinterpret.

ΙΟΛΗ7 said:

Let it flow in from all around you until you feel like a ball of lightning, then send a directed bolt of it back in the direction the negative energy came from.

the above statment,contradicts the below...

ΙΟΛΗ7 said:

Send it back...hmm...I'm always against this method.All of my years in this path,i was trying to use justice in all of my wishes and rituals.It's not for me to decide something so serious

Whichever energy form you manipulate,sending a bolt of it back in the direction of the attack,IS an aggressive defence.

The best response to a stare attack in my book is a good solid poke in the eyes a la 3 Stooges...

Har [thumbup] ,or as we like to do hereabouts: 'stick ra nut oan the buggers'.Sorted.

A Glasgow Kiss,best served hot and foaming ....

Me,I positively glow under the glare.Send it back,no chance! All that lovely malevolence just waiting to be made rainbow shiney and laffingly lovely..gimme.

I do like to play a little sometimes too,make all nervous and flustery for a bit,wait and wait and then some more...till it's tantalisinlgy sweet and then,turn up the ice to the top,lol.
I have rather mean eyes for a staring match,I can go big eyed and drop my head just so,giving a rather intense look that scares grannies and small children.I practice at it,you see.

Depending on time and place ,another tactic is to walk over to the starer,however you choose,either confidently or awkwardly,get in nice and close and stage whisper '...boo..' True story.Effective too.



Using one's eyes effectively is a skill that all those who wish proficiency in the art of illusion and glamoury should work on.

Free experimental subject playing the game of his own free will,I 'm up for some of that.I have a big inner kid still going on sometimes,lol.

Energy is precious to each and everyone of us.If,for example,someone has 3 enemies,he would have to spend all of his energy to turn this thing around.Do you all know my friends,how many people got mental illness because of this energy that they absorbed?Do you? It's exausting.Why should we be burdened with this procedure when the ancient knowledge of the giants of art have given us ways and solutions? [wink]
Besides...balance is the key to it all.Balance can not be kept if all of the time you have to fight other people's energies.At one point you get so exausted that you surrender.Happened many many times.Believe me.It never stops.It is a river that keeps running and running.

DrMummy wrote: I disqgree. At a certain point in one's development, I feel that it's wise to learn to metabolize the negative energy around you. The source of power for a magician, the quality that gives their work a volitional oomph is the place where both negative and positive atavistic call home. All emotions/energy/will contain both positive and negative aspects. If you feel the positive with any intensity, then you're bound to feel any negative with equal intensity. If you're in contact with your higher self, you know that these forces are not what makes up that ever elusive "I".

While I agree that a novice practitioner should initially focus on developing their whole self before attempting to take on challenge of developing "other selves", I feel that shielding yourself from negative energy only serves to disconnect you from the world in which you practice, thereby diluting your magical will. It's diluted because refusing to be influenced insulates your above, so it ends up speaking a language that the below will, at best, ignore. Or worse, misinterpret.

Is a practitionair always sure about the size of this energy? Is metabolizing energies,the same each and every time? Can you imagine what rituals should be included in a procedure like this Does it strike you once or it comes like waves around you? Have you felt the presence of seven different energies that they are trying to brake you in pieces? My dear friend...there were some things that i've learned in this path.Be true to your self and never waist your energy.Cause this is a source of life and balance.
Higher self is the best you can reach.So if you'll get to that point,you'll might think twice about the feelings you had till now.
A sheild can never disconnect you from the rest of the world.It's just your armor so that you won't get hurt. [wink]

Nahemah wrote:

ΙΟΛΗ7 said:

Let it flow in from all around you until you feel like a ball of lightning, then send a directed bolt of it back in the direction the negative energy came from.

the above statment,contradicts the below...

ΙΟΛΗ7 said:

Send it back...hmm...I'm always against this method.All of my years in this path,i was trying to use justice in all of my wishes and rituals.It's not for me to decide something so serious

Whichever energy form you manipulate,sending a bolt of it back in the direction of the attack,IS an aggressive defence.

This is just an example to sheild your self from negative energy.I meant invoking the Lady and Lord.The author doesh't explain it like the link i was reading...No harm purpose...The procedure is quite different...hmm..Let me give you one tip here.Be glad to do it.First you can use hematite.... this gem absorbs negative energy,keeping it away from you while you are wearing it.Many gem stones like this can cover a big area of protection.I should mention Obsidian also.I can provide you with three powerfull sheilds,if you'd like.I also use them. [blush]
Many sheilds around old old grimoires to keep safe your self,from black magic.

Do you all know my friends,how many people got mental illness because of this energy that they absorbed?Do you?

Do you Lolli? Do you know?

It's exausting.Why should we be burdened with this procedure when the ancient knowledge of the giants of art have given us ways and solutions? [wink]

Energy absorption and transmutation is something the human animal does everyday,we process energy at multiple levels from various sources,it's a handy design feature we all have. [thumbup]

Besides...balance is the key to it all.Balance can not be kept if all of the time you have to fight other people's energies.At one point you get so exausted that you surrender.Happened many many times.Believe me.It never stops.It is a river that keeps running and running.

Not to me.Has this been your experience Lolli?

I don't have to fight energies all the time,personally.Ymmv,of course.

Balance is all a matter of perspective after all.

I have a comfortable equilibration in my life these days,despite normal family ups and downs,lol and I am sleeping peacefully at night,life is rather good right now,actually. [grin]

Yet I have and do use defensive magicks and manipulation skills quite often.

I 'm going to repeat this part of my post above,for emphasis:sorry for quoting myself,but this statment really is important to consider:

"Energy absorption and transmutation is something the human animal does everyday,we process energy at multiple levels from various sources,it's a handy design feature we all have. [thumbup] "

Nahemah wrote:

Do you all know my friends,how many people got mental illness because of this energy that they absorbed?Do you?

Do you Lolli? Do you know?

It's exausting.Why should we be burdened with this procedure when the ancient knowledge of the giants of art have given us ways and solutions? [wink]

Energy absorption and transmutation is something the human animal does everyday,we process energy at multiple levels from various sources,it's a handy design feature we all have. [thumbup]

Besides...balance is the key to it all.Balance can not be kept if all of the time you have to fight other people's energies.At one point you get so exausted that you surrender.Happened many many times.Believe me.It never stops.It is a river that keeps running and running.

Not to me.Has this been your experience Lolli?

I don't have to fight energies all the time,personally.Ymmv,of course.

Balance is all a matter of perspective after all.

I have a comfortable equilibration in my life these days,despite normal family ups and downs,lol and I am sleeping peacefully at night,life is rather good right now,actually. [grin]

Yet I have and do use defensive magicks and manipulation skills quite often.

I 'm going to repeat this part of my post above,for emphasis:sorry for quoting myself,but this statment really is important to consider:

"Energy absorption and transmutation is something the human animal does everyday,we process energy at multiple levels from various sources,it's a handy design feature we all have. [thumbup] "

Yes...i know.I do my dearest Nahemah.Many people around me.
I see what you mean...let me tell you that...we were gifted with the most precious gift...life !!!!!!!! Since there are a thousand ways to protect one his self,why loose energy over it?
Maybe you don't fight energies all of the time,cause maybe you're not working every dear in healing.And a second yes here.I've been around many people who surrender and never got back 100%.Maybe you even have examples like this from people you know.
I like those two sentences that you repeat.The thing is that inside me i feel it's different.Animals absorb energy,but not this kind of energy.All those pure souls,couldh't imagine that a certain kind of energy can set a fire in the curtains or drop vases or make a whole house tremble...or worst !!! [wink]

oh...i lost one part of your post...i also feel good good energy around you those days.It's like a sky that changes a color.A bright one !!! I LOVE TO FEEL YOU LIKE THAT !!! [thumbup] [thumbup] i wish you the best...!!

Dr.Mummy said:
but on the space between the brows,

This is also the 'sweet spot' for administering a Glasgow Kiss...WIN.

Glasgow Kiss
English transliteration:

A sudden and often unexpected headbutt in the facial region.Usually administered by a fierce, though diminutive, native of the Northern territories.

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Glasgow_Kiss

So in a roundabout way,what we do with our heads hereabouts,you can also do IN your head,if you wish.

This Fortune woman,I should read more about her.ThinkI like her.

Being a person who regularly socializes with homeless folks, I know firsthand the effects of reckless occultism. And as I said before, absorbing occult attack is not for the novice. However, if you have the ability to do it, it's the most effective technique out there.

And I have felt those things, I'm not a beginner. Don't patronize me.

It takes a calm mind, and a lot of self control. You absorb the negative energy through the heart chakra. The diamond heart is indestructible. It take time and effort to develop, but nothing can disturb it. Not happiness or misery moves it, yet it is infinitely malleable.

I feel that, as initiates, it's our responsibility to take on all energy and thoughtforms that we can handle and transmute the poison into medicine. Of course there's inherent danger in that, but isn't there an inherent danger in all occultism?

prochaine_etape wrote:A friend has told me he is being subjected to staring attacks from low-level anger magicians.

This is likely to offend someone, but what the hey...

Can someone please explain to me why this sort of low-grade nonsense requires an occult response at all?

I just discussed this with my Germanic Frau, and read her Nah's comment re. The Glasgow Kiss, and it left me speculating about whether or not there isn't a relationship between Northern Peoples, our inherent genetic ability to process alcohol, and the more direct approach. Or, is it just that almost every time I look out my window these days there are a couple of crows sitting in a nearby tree?

In any case, I still think --and recommend, that if your friend is being stared at they should just confront the douchetard and tell them to Effoff.

How's that for redirecting some energy? [twisted]

There really does not have to be an occult solution to every problem life throws at us; even "occulty" ones.

And to be honest, I get a strong, new-agey, intuitive sense that almost everyone contributing to this thread is overthinking the problem.

No offense intended, but maybe your friend just needs to grow a set. [eek]

Couldnt agree more!

But I think he wanted some kind of occult response since he asked in this forum.

DrMummy wrote: I feel that, as initiates, it's our responsibility to take on all energy and thoughtforms that we can handle and transmute the poison into medicine. Of course there's inherent danger in that, but isn't there an inherent danger in all occultism?

Each one of us works in a different path.We all study,we all practise.The results of our work and patience,are the ones that talk about us.And yes...there's always a danger.The thing is that a practitionair should spend too much time in reading,practising,waiting,absorbing knowledge.Nowdays,people come to me,without any previous experience and they ask me,to guide them work in rituals,when they hardly know the basics.Ish't that dangerous also? But i guess they know it's their responsibility...or...they just don't understand the consequences.Many dangers there,That's why i insist in our perfect protection.