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This is one website that I do go often to, but I do not support the stance of politics that the web people have but I will have to admit that the medidations and magick are useful. I go to other Theistic Satanic sites on the Internet, but this one is very popular and the sole reason for this fact is that the methods of the rituals are well written and easy to understand for a beginner into Satanism and Magick for that matter, but I have heard through the grapevine that the magick is not totally theirs. It is a mish mash of basic herematics, basic rituals taken from Eastern sources etc but when I go to that site I tend to avoid all the mention of the Jews!!!

I was reading some lady's website on that notorius place and she applauded the High Priestess on the way she had written all the medidations etc, but to me the fact that she is a Neo Nazi and proud of it puts me right off. I cannot believe that people will still use so much hatred towards a certain group of people but in certain conspricarcy circles hasn't Anton LeVay himself been classed as Jewish!
The reasons why the Joy of Satan is popular is this:
It is well written and I must admit that their YouTube videos are infomative (only when it is involves the writing combined with the actual writing)
The demon section is very informative and knowing all the sigils are useful if that is more your scene.
The Astrology from Azreal is excellent and I have learnt a lot from it, but as the WebOwner is the wife of the leader of the American Nazi Party I am going into new websites instead like the website of Venus Satanas who has a well visited You Tube page and at least she is not talking drivel about Judaism, etc.

You've hit the nail on the head Parvati.It is popular because of the interesting and useful information,but you are correct that this is all available elsewhere and much of it has been cribbed from other, more reputable sources.

Diane Vera is ex JOS, I wonder if that may be the other lady you've spoken of here? Ms Vera has a wealth of information available on her site and I reference it often, as a learning tool for myself and others.

http://theisticsatanism.com/

I 'm glad you've found Venus Satanus, she is a member here and a benefactor also, she was instrumental in setting up the OF.org wiki project, but she is a very busy person and not currently active on site atm.

Have you got the link for Venus' blog/site?

http://www.spiritualsatanist.blogspot.co.uk/

I often refer to this often also, as it's a great resource .

That is the lady I was most definately speaking of and I am proud to say that I do subscribe to the YouTube vlogs of VenusSatanas which sound very informative indeed but I will have to be truthful about myself, I am not a Satanist because I embrace the light side of magick too but the woman calling herself Maxine Dietrich sounds like a real horror. [mad] Anyway I have read all the medidations from her site but found them on this site, which I belive has been created before hers but these medidations are known way before any of the websites knew of them.

http://www.enkiea.org/

So Diane Vera is was ex JoS, how interesting because reading her website she seems like a reasonably sound woman because she is not a Neo Nazi. Cannot these people realize that in the rules of reincarnation this golden rule, they will be born into a body that they most despise. I would pay good money to see the creator of BlackSun666 return back into several lifetimes of Judaism. [eg] Many people after finding all this info about the Joy Of Satan tend to avoid the website like the plague and I personally cannot blame them at all. [wink] The main reason that Joy of Satan is popular is not only the fact that it is written well (ie from the actual sources they have plargrized from, proof is the Magick Squares which is hindu in origin!) but the sheer fact of the way the site is placed on the Google register. Anyone type down Satan and what you would get is The Joy of Satan website in the first place but I shudder to think how these people would behave during the era of Nazi Germany. They, I believe, would shamelessly participate in The Holocaust and isn't it so surprising that Maxine Dietrich is not totally white herself. [crazy] As for her husband, he is just an ugly bastard of the highest order and he needs all of Satan's magick to be desirable to women!

Well here is one of their websites which I do read for amusement purposes only.

http://see_the_truth.webs.com/

Exposing Xtianity, very thought provoking topics here but they go so far and claim that Xtainity is a thoughtform created by Jews to keep all Gentiles servile. Another thing disturbing about the JoS is the fact that they expect that contacting demons can be something of benefit but usually the people who do their methods of summonings are the misfits who are not exactly totally grown up!

I recommend blog - http://thesocietyoflucifer.blogspot.com - tons of theoretical information about luciferianism, satanic, occult

and http://www.luciferiansword.com - Order of the Luciferian Sword

That girl on youtube, venussatanas or whatever, is a complete charlton. I checked out one of her old videos out of curiosity (related videos and what not) and it was very obvious to me that she was reciting things she'd learned herself very recently. She was rewording, not speaking from experience.

LOL ! yeah, i became a Satanist back in 1992, likely when you were still wet behind the ears. None the less, most of my older videos are scripted on purpose.. there is a lot of information to cover and its better to have it written out than just speak off the cuff. That way you'll have something you can reference beyond simple opinion. You may not understand that fact if you have not produced a video series on a general topic like the occult.

VenusSatanas wrote:LOL ! yeah, i became a Satanist back in 1992, likely when you were still wet behind the ears. None the less, most of my older videos are scripted on purpose.. there is a lot of information to cover and its better to have it written out than just speak off the cuff. That way you'll have something you can reference beyond simple opinion. You may not understand that fact if you have not produced a video series on a general topic like the occult.

BLOOP!

And I always just assumed the Joy of Satan website was popular because of good search engine optimization. It's always way high up on the list when people search "Satanism." I don't think that says anything about the quality of information therein though. Has anyone had any consistent, long term results with the meditations? Because I practiced the more "left hand" styles of Tantra for awhile and the kundalini meditations recommended on that site seemed janky and inadvisable to me.

it is true that they get priority in searches simply because of their age and the sheer number of people who post links about them, kinda like an army. You'd be better off going with their source material to learn something. even though their source mtl. is poorly cited, it is easily found through a little research. When dealing with their materials remember though that its been cobbled together from various systems, so it really doesn't work as a whole. just pieces of it.

how much....

The JOS is becoming more and more Nazi, and what the hell has Nazi propaganda PDFs got to do with Satanism! I have heard through some page on FB called Exposing the Joy of Satan, that one of the HP's is actually a Jew! [mad] Now that is self hate to the extreme!
As for the Venus, I have read and watched her videos and I enjoyed them.

VenusSatanas wrote:it is true that they get priority in searches simply because of their age and the sheer number of people who post links about them, kinda like an army. You'd be better off going with their source material to learn something. even though their source mtl. is poorly cited, it is easily found through a little research. When dealing with their materials remember though that its been cobbled together from various systems, so it really doesn't work as a whole. just pieces of it.

VS, I remember your internet presence from a while ago. Good stuff, that. Glad to see you on here.

All magic is a mishmash

Whenever somebody comes up with a new system, they're just putting their own personal spin on a basic force

I think Nazism is/was an attempt at physical resolution of what is ultimately an alchemical problem. I think the Aryan race is a symbol for alchemical gold because of the association with purity.

"If we could just rid ourselves of this base metal!"

Aryan = gold = Christ

Jew = base metal = not Christ yet (they represent the Aryan's attachment to the physical)

Christ, not in surface Christian terms, but as a symbol for the outcome of the transmutational process of Kundalini. Having "The Crystal." "The Philosopher's Stone." Being one of the justified dead.

"If we could just rid ourselves of this base metal!"

Aryan = gold = Christ

Jew = base metal = not Christ yet (they represent the Aryan's attachment to the physical)

Christ, not in surface Christian terms, but as a symbol for the outcome of the transmutational process of Kundalini. Having "The Crystal." "The Philosopher's Stone." Being one of the justified dead.

That may be your perception of their perception, but likewise, it is nonsense and you need to be mindful that we do not tolerate any kind of Nazism, whether sympathetic or conjectural promotion here.

Your referencing of Jew as equalling base metal is disturbing.

Tread carefully. Do not be this flippant here again. You are being watched now.