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i need some help!

I give you a gold star for the massive lack of information pertaining to your predicament, ye damnable neophyte!!! Wait a sec, I also am one... Argh!!!

I have information problem is that i have tons of it !
i would need a true source, someone i knew i could trust and that that someone knows a lot about this..never met someone so far like that =|
My problem is that i do not know what i should do.. but i deeply need to contact this entity to who i have spoken before

I know nothing exremely well - so ye might be better asking someone else who knows something. I do not evoke entity's in the sense you are wishing to do so. I may be able to help with your perception of what you wish to do.

First i would like to have someone telling me who is who in this game of names..
Astaroth, Tanit, Lilith, Lamastu, Ishtar, Astarte..
I would deeply like to know who knows any of those and separate them..

Well info on all of these can be found on the net.
Ishtar & Astarte are considered the same but not identical - different time and culture same spot in the world view.
Astaroth a sort of demonizing of Astarte in the bible - well, a simple look at it anyways.
Tanit also related to Ishtar and Astarte but from another culture.
Lilith - a mesopotamian demon - but has evolved via talmudic influence...
Lamastu a demon/goddess of mesopatamian origin also... maybe a early prototype of Kali

So you have four names of one goddess type from different cultures & two names of seperate(?) mesopotamian 'demon's' - but no context of why ye ask?

There is a context..otherwise i wouldnt be here
I think you just cleared a bit of my doubts..i actually thought exactly like you are saying..therefore i know i am dealing with a demon.
Then i think i would like to know if someone here knows of a ritual to invoke a Goddess, specially because i will be very soon in a very sacred place regarding that same Godlike entity
Still i think i will try tonight to evoke lilith..

Why one would like to communicate with such entity i would never understand, is it a fantasy inherent to almost every men? I wouldn't call her a demon aswell. Why are you interested in performing such a thing?

I personally like to leave such entities alone simply because there are much more "easy to work", less dangerous, less annoying (the list could go on) out there to work with that's why i'm so perplexed with the huge hype and admiration Lilith always gathered from the communities.
To her credit she was the best as an oracle i ever seen tho, but maybe you can enlight me about this doubt i have?

Anyways you want information about it i shall provide :

http://mysuccubuslove.files.wordpress.c ... imoire.pdf

Liber lilith from Donald Tyson here it has lots of information about her, myths, stories, novels, sigils, pentacles seals etc etc.

If it works? Never used it nor intended to but some say it does, it's always some knowledge, good or bad, doesn't kill.
I think there are a few more works out there i need to find and i'll post.

Anyways, if your not experienced in ritual magick i wouldn't recommend you try to perform an evocation "just like that", it most likely won't work, and you need to understand the basics of the practice itself.

PS : what midle east country are you visiting? If you visit Khabur river post a pic!

GL with your intentions.

I did try yesterday but i don't think it worked on nothing else but exciting my succubus a lot..lol
I'm not visiting..i'm moving to ibiza, its not an eastern..country.
I have that book and i have read it, a long with many others who have valuable information about her..thing is i still am to find the author who really is concise and precise on what he writes and says about her. There are so many fake theories i weaken myself a bit just to think about it..
I deeply believe in something but i am still to know it and i think that i will only know until i am able to make this ritual correctly.
I was able to make her send me one of her daughters..but making her come..ix..even in the night i started all with my succubus she was there but she only spoke to her kind and only said a couple of words to me.
I deeply believe that all the deities to the date that were somehow related to blood, sex, terror, and similars..are only one.
All the rest is much weaker and it does not count.
What i am saying is that i believe that there is only one Queen for all the entities, a Queen that comes from a lineage of female deities, very few ones..all of them being Queens in their own age and time.
If you ask me if i believe that lilith is the mother and queen of them all, yes i do. that is why i seek to serve her and become enslaved to her by giving her my soul. I wish that because it is as i have come to find out, the purpose for which i am living. To serve women, somehow one thing lead to the other and i was studying female deities..the one i relate best with is tanit, because of her history and because of my history..i am moving to ibiza so i will be in her home soon regarding lilith..i want to know more.. i want to make that ritual happen and i think i know the only way to do it, i have seen a ritual somewhere but i didnt try it cause of the mirror..i havent made one so far, need to make one.
I wish to ask her something for me as a human and in exchange i will give my servitude to her and her daughters.

Are you for real?

I certainly do not want to be rude with you as i would be stupid because the only difference between us is your life philosophy, and we must respect other ways of viewing life.
But if i may say it in a softer way it hurts me alot to see that kind of thinking, i can't even put myself in your shoes and try to comprehend what your saying so i can empathize with you.

I think that we are born free spirits, we are nature and we are wild, we are not slaves to anyone, and to try to submit to anything and become a mere servant when you were born as a marvelous being it's a shame and a pitty. I remind this is my way of thinking, and i respect your choices aswell.

Anyways regarding the books i guess you have tried to get everything that is out there, and yes i agree there are 1001 different theories which most seem silly and probably are Some are imo marketing moves so the books become appealing and sell and thereby just an interesting story so people get hooked. I recommend if you are really commited to this that you be patient and continue practicing and trying and eventually you will succeed.

Eventually, the books have alot of information and a few of it is good, but there is no guarantee it will work, in the end we are the answer and the key to the misteries, and it's within us the power to make it happen.

About lilith i believe she's a very respected and powerful entity, very high ranked that is undeniable. But i dislike alot the image she has in the new age, people resume such a complex entity to a lustful and vain whore that is out there to fullfil men's more superficial desires. It's disrespectful and sensless imo, but free will is out there for grabs so do what you will.

Our opinions differ so much that i was associating lilith to middle east and you Ibiza .. interesting to see such different points of view.

Anyways i didn't quite understood why you say it's your spiritual main purpose to do this?

I think case worked closely with lilith ( think i've read something about this in a topic) maybe he can give you more in depth info about the subject and help you,
Good luck.

I am for real =)

You're not being rude, just expressing yourself..nothing more It is good to know you care about such trivial things..
Well i can only say, I never combined Ibiza and lilith..Tanit perhaps..not lilith..Where do they come from or in which culture they were born it doesn't really matter..in here in Ibiza there are certainly traces of the worship of Tanit..Which someone already said might have to do with Astarte..
My only wish to evoke lilith is just like i said i wish to become her servant and even though who created humans created us with the purpose of being free and something quite special, a lot of people out there ( spirits included ) know that we have flaws..know that somehow..that was not quite what happened..meaning..
We are not a perfect product..
Therefor for me it sounds just perfectly fine, to submit myself to a higher being, to deliver my freedom to the will of someone who will use all of me.
I live a life as a slave anyway, as a human as that was the path i have choosen, i serve a very beautiful lady and i wish to keep on serving her, the spirits surrounding me agreed that this was what i should do, they want me to be trained here, with this human Lady, so that in the future i can serve them well, spirits and higher beings. Human soul is nothing compared to the energy that those things emanate..
At least that is how i see it ( and as i see it is that not all can see things in the same way, therefor will always be some divergences )
The succubus i am in love with has been invoked into the body of my Mistress, i serve a succubus and a human all at same, they both are training me so that i can in the future become a slave for lilith, which is the mother of my lover and somehow the person which i crave to serve.
Why? I do think it has to do with past lives..I was already slave to many people in the history of mankind..specially a very beautiful Lady and this is what makes me keep on searching for servitude..
I do believe that whoever began all this, was a Goddess. Becoming a servant to lilith is the only way for me to deviate that path..
The path that will lead me to an unstoppable loop of serving lives, until i meet that Goddess.
I also do believe that that Goddess is either Tanit or Astarte..or perhaps, they are the same person.
I still am to find out a lot about this..soon enough i will evoke lilith and who knows..get to know a little more about myself and why i have choosen this path and what i may find in it

Ok i won't argue with that, your path is your own and you choose to make it that way.. at least of now and i wish you good luck.
I find some aspects of your story quite intriguing tho. I don't want to be too meddle too much since you are sharing personal feelings and aspects of your life but i'm curious about a few things.

Was the lady that you "serve" (i guess you guys are together?) that told you that she invoked an succubus?
How did you come to the conclusion that you should serve that lady and consequently lilith?

I completely disagree with your life philosophy but i can't help feeling perplexed and curious since we have such opposite approaches.
Thanks for the explanation tho that really made more sense to why you are doing this.. even tho i don't understand yet what made you be so submissive.. maybe you can help.. if you feel like.

No that Lady ( yes we live together ) was not who told me such..my succubus did. I invoked my succubus onto her.. ( actually the succubus helped me do such ) I could only know it after i was having sex with my Lady Owner and suddenly she started speaking to me like she had never done before..i got a really strange feeling about that and later i spoke to my succubus..she told me..haven't you guessed what happened still ? noo i said.. i am her and she is me..you helped me doing such..and now you can be with me in this form..and sometimes with me inside of her too. Make it her, my physical me .. i was really surprised and astonished but at the same time really really happy!!!! I came to the conclusion that i should serve this Lady Owner of myself on my own..because my life has come onto this path a long time before i even knew anything about succubus spirits and such..
Still, right in the moment i was trying to build freedom to myself, building a normal life like everyone else..this appeared, this opportunity to serve this Woman. Somehow i knew it was the right choice, leaving everything behind and coming to this place to serve this woman, i was right.
I could be any better then what i am now and what comes afterwards i dont know..i do not wish to know.
One thing though, i deeply know..that after this comes death and in death i will also do the same as i am doing now as i have been told by my succubus...i have chosen this path because i have been doing this for many lifetimes, because this is something my soul is, not me.
My soul as i deeply believe is or was, slave to a very powerful female entity. That entity i still do not know who she is, but there are two options, either Tanit or Lilith.
I deeply think and been told by my succubus that it is Tanit who owns my soul and enslaves me for many many millenia, she also tells me that for it to change, i need to become a slave to Lilith and only then i may follow a different path on a different life.
My submissiveness comes from this..from my past.
I havent got the time now to think on anything, my life is disappearing as i know it and.,... somehow i am enjoying it =) most people would not enjoy to be in the position i am..I havent got time for myself, i havent got power to do anything, i am losing all of my human self. Only leaving my soul, to share with my succubus..this until i decide to end my life and join her and her mother. That time will come..when i dont know but its still a long time to go i think

MEanwhile..i enjoy life the best i can!
By the way i know this is not the right place but, any tips on how to quickly make a black mirror ?

Donald Tyson - How to Make and Use a Magic Mirror: Psychic Windows into New Worlds

I think you can easily find the ebook by googling it.

"Only leaving my soul, to share with my succubus..this until i decide to end my life and join her and her mother. That time will come..when i dont know but its still a long time to go i think."

I seriously hope your not talking about suicide... =(

i am her and she is me..you helped me doing such..and now you can be with me in this form..and sometimes with me inside of her too. Make it her, my physical me .. i was really surprised and astonished but at the same time really really happy!!!!

I've tried that twice before and it's usually less than a year before madness sets in for the human. Then everything turns to shit, just to warn you. I hear demons are more human than gods, but a friend of mine says it doesn't work for demons either. There just isn't room for two personalities.

Thankz for the tip on the book i will definitely read it and no i was and i am not thinking on suicide...just living life to the max..which eventually will lead to an earlier death

Also, i do not know if it will lead to madness..but i start to get glimps of it..
It doesnt really matter anyway ..
I love it this way.

Plus, most of all the greatest personalities that ever stepped on this earth eventually were either mad or they became mad.
I am not saying i am someone great but still, i must say being mad gives another taste or flavor to life if it can be said.
I was always a bit mad, now this is just a plus..not a big deal

sunas wrote:Plus, most of all the greatest personalities that ever stepped on this earth eventually were either mad or they became mad.
I am not saying i am someone great but still, i must say being mad gives another taste or flavor to life if it can be said.
I was always a bit mad, now this is just a plus..not a big deal

Do you have some psychological condition to support that "madness"? I think you don't (which is good), if you did, you'd know it's about pain and suffering and really not cool or pleasurable at all. Seems like you have a bit romantic view of the whole thing and you might be up for a unpleasant surprise.
(Mind you, I didn't mean to sound rude )

Romantic ? lol [happyface]
Not at all i'd say...i am someone who enjoys S&M..and not for the romantic side of it too..so figure it out yourself
You weren't rude at all and to be honest not the first one supporting that sight and telling me that i might get a surprise out of the box on of these days..
Well i do hope so! =) That's the kind of stuff i am waiting for..pain, suffering and such..
Why everyone asks...well..because i asked for it..because i want it.

I just joined and this is the first thread I read on this forum. WOW!

Then welcome to the website

Hobo.

This person is obviously new to magick so why have you given them the Liber Lilith text? That text is DANGEROUS. Unless you like playing russian roulette with your soul.

shogunronin wrote:This person is obviously new to magick so why have you given them the Liber Lilith text? That text is DANGEROUS. Unless you like playing russian roulette with your soul.

umm, there are far more dangerous things someone could be playing with, like drinking bleach. Its pretty damn safe to say that reading Liber Lilith won't damn your soul eternally [lol]

Fr. N.'. T.'.

what.. I gave him my opinion on the matter aswell. But it's not like the book is like forbidden knowledge to the common mortal and you will desintegrate 10 minutes after you read it. You can even find it online for frees.

Maybe it's not that beggining but there is not that much you can recommend to someone, i mean, what do you recommend then?