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Hello everyone!

I am looking for any information on Draconic Magick, or Dragon spirits in general. I'm looking for legit info, not fluffy bunny fairy tale stuff [wink]

There is a major lack of information on the subject, (and thus, a forum lack as well [bummed] )

Is there any here at occultforum who has any experience with dragons?

I feel a strong connection to such beings, and I am interested in working with them.

Thank you!

I would check Daoist magick, which is not a favorite of the forum chatter. The Daoists and Chinese mystics are the only ancient source that actually may have dealt with dragon spirits of any kind. I believe there is an easily accessible translated scroll of Daoist Magick that can be found via Amazon.

Well there is an order who works with what one culd call "draconic magick". The Ordo et Atri Adamantis.
http://www.dragonrouge.net/english/general.html
One of the founders, Thomas Karlsson, is quite a name in the occult scene where I come from.

Another direction I could advise you to search is the work of Frater Achad and Kenneth Grant (especially the book "Nightside of Eden")

My personal experience is limited to the second source I recommendet you. I have some experience with the draconic current but that goes more into that direction of crowleys thelema.

Ramscha

Absu/Tiamat/Marduk:

Enuma Elish:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En%C3%BBma_Elish

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiamat

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marduk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathon

http://www.harpercollins.com/browseinsi ... 0380751921

http://www.mythicalcreatureslist.com/my ... eature/Orm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_dragon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dr ... d_folklore

Google really is your friend.

Extrapolate,collate and corroborate and you'll be fine.

Dragons are everwhree and nowhere at once.They live embedded in our psyches.It's Limbic.

Hello Dancing with Dragons,

What are the Dragons?

There is a great deal of folklore globally about dragons. Unfortunately, most of it is narrative and later dogmas have projected their own views back onto the dragons. The only actual magical information I have come across is from encounters during Shamanic Journeys. Bear in mind, this is filtered through my subjective views and focus.

The dragons play an important part in the energetic flow and balance of the universe. To place this in a 'management structure,' they are below the Devas/Angles, who hold the patterns for manifestation and the Elementals who are the rudimentary consciousness to the physical forces. Unlike most Elementals, all dragons have their own identity (they cannot be totems for this reason). Also, because of their nature they cannot be magically compelled in the way that Elementals may. I do not know if they could be so treated using Divine Names or Angelic sigils, as the demons are, but it would be disrespectful.

How to encounter the dragons?

While I do practice Ceremonial Magick and Invocation, the only beings I have invoked are Devas. I have not attempted to invoke dragons. Probably, the best way to encounter them would be thru a Shamanic Journey. However, they will have to decide to work with you. You can 'put out there' your desire and ask those Higher powers you worship to assist you.

Thank you all for your information!

By the way, please call me Ben from now on

I'd recommend Aegishhjamur: The Book of Dragon Runes by Michael Kelly if you're interested in both Draconic magick and the Germanic paradigm. Hope no one minds that I brought back a dead thread.

Moongoat wrote:I'd recommend Aegishhjamur: The Book of Dragon Runes by Michael Kelly if you're interested in both Draconic magick and the Germanic paradigm. Hope no one minds that I brought back a dead thread.

I have never heard of that rune set. Where was it located?

My thoughts on this are simple. Unless the dragons come to you it's usually best to leave them be.

Ramscha wrote:

Moongoat wrote:I'd recommend Aegishhjamur: The Book of Dragon Runes by Michael Kelly if you're interested in both Draconic magick and the Germanic paradigm. Hope no one minds that I brought back a dead thread.

I have never heard of that rune set. Where was it located?

I'm not sure that I understand the question. The book is mainly about the use of the Germanic dragon slaying model as a means of spiritual attainment. I think Michael Kelly has some interesting insights into the more mystical aspects of the Germanic paradigm.

If you're asking if the title refers to a specific rune row, it doesn't. It uses the same version of the Elder Futhark that you'll find in most books on Rune Magick. It's important to note that the word "rune" means "mystery" and doesn't necessarily refer to a rune stave, so the subtitle might instead be named "The Book of Dragon Mysteries."

Moongoat wrote:

Ramscha wrote:

Moongoat wrote:I'd recommend Aegishhjamur: The Book of Dragon Runes by Michael Kelly if you're interested in both Draconic magick and the Germanic paradigm. Hope no one minds that I brought back a dead thread.

I have never heard of that rune set. Where was it located?

I'm not sure that I understand the question. The book is mainly about the use of the Germanic dragon slaying model as a means of spiritual attainment. I think Michael Kelly has some interesting insights into the more mystical aspects of the Germanic paradigm.

If you're asking if the title refers to a specific rune row, it doesn't. It uses the same version of the Elder Futhark that you'll find in most books on Rune Magick. It's important to note that the word "rune" means "mystery" and doesn't necessarily refer to a rune stave, so the subtitle might instead be named "The Book of Dragon Mysteries."

Ah, based on the sentence above I thought it referred to a special set of runes themed on dragons. Thank you for clearification.
The dragon indeed has many motives in the middle and northern european mythology (and all around the globe as well). Not only as "dragon", but there are also lots of snakes and worms which can be found as motives.

"Rune" does not necessarily just "mystery", it means also "secret" as well as "wisper". A "Helrunar" is someone who whispers with Hel. [wink]