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unknown entity during astral projection

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:59 pm
by insomni4c
Alright so to give a little bit of a background, not really sure how important it is but whatever might as well put forward as much information as possible right? Throughout a large part of my life I've felt "presences" and whatnot. I believed i was being haunted and then eventually would just dismiss it as my mind playing tricks on me or whatever, but then eventually one day I'd suddenly start feeling that presence again. At first I was absolutely terrified by it, I was rather young after all, but as the years went on I not only accepted it but also it's happened less and less often and now on the rare occasion that it happens it doesnt bother me so much anymore.. I'm also not new to the occult or paranormal, it was these experiences that got me interested in all of it in the first place. I don't really have a specific paradigm as I tend to have a hard time settling on any specific beliefs, although recently I've been leaning towards my own panentheistic approach to satanism, although at the time that this happened it was more a vague idea of panentheism and chaos magic blended together lol.

Now I'd always been interested in astral projection but never really could do it; I have a hard time getting into the proper state of consciousness, sleeping has always been a huge difficulty for me so I have trouble getting close enough to sleep to do it. But occasionally I'll be on the brink of sleep and realize I am in the proper state for it and try and leave my body, I've managed to do it like that a few times although usually I don't get much further than just floating a few feet above myself. It's also happened once while waking up from a lucid dream.

The last time that I succesfully left my body was the furthest I'd ever gotten, I'd actually managed to take a look around and take in the fact that I'd actually done it before falling back into myself. But when I looked around the room seemed darker than usual and strangely alien in a way, and a few feet in front of my bed I saw some sort of entity sitting on my stand looking at me, it's body was all black like one of those shadow people that people often report seeing but it was wearing a red mask. I felt very strongly that this was not friendly, and that it was of utmost importance that I quickly get back to my body, although this fear could have been from the shock of seeing something like this lol. This happened maybe a month ago and I haven't really been bothered anymore than usual, which isn't much, but I've recently started thinking about the experience again. My question is, Does anyone have any insight into what this could be? And could it be connected with that presence that I'd felt before? I accept that my mind could have been playing tricks on me, but it was very real, and I know that I was not asleep and had made a conscious decision to try and project.

Re: unknown entity during astral projection

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:30 pm
by RoseRed
That's not astral projection. That's an OBE (out of body experience). Those are the first baby steps to bi-locating - where your physical body is in one place and your ethereal body is in another. Congrats on getting out of your physical.

It's entirely possible that the entity you encountered has been the one that you've felt all this time.

Have you claimed and shielded your space yet? I read your intro and I realize that you still live at home. I would start in your bedroom first and then claim and shield the rest of the house. You don't want to kick it out of your room only for it to go into the next one.

Re: unknown entity during astral projection

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:59 pm
by insomni4c
thanks for the feedback ;D

I wasn't sure if it was astral projection or not, I haven't really done a lot of reading on it except when I was first looking into this kind of thing and I wasn't the best researcher back then lol. I do find OBE's rather interesting nonetheless though.

I haven't done any shielding or anything in awhile, but it might be something I should start doing again. Usually though I've found what works best for me is simply ignoring it and not reacting or allowing fear or any negative emotion like that to come through when dealing with these kinds of things, I believe that spirits and ghosts or whatever you wanna call em aren't much of a problem unless you give them substance, although sometimes they can be good at getting your attention haha. I haven't had any issues with anything I've encountered since I started looking at it that way.

I was mostly wondering if anyone had any experience with anything like what I saw, it was rather interesting. I haven't had any issues with this or anything since then, but I do appreciate the advice on shielding and claiming my space. I'll definitely have to do that if I intend to pursue OBE's and astral projection in the future.

Re: unknown entity during astral projection

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:36 am
by Helper
I have had experiences with shadow beings, they can be good or bad depending. Some are controlled by other forces, such as demons or even people in the 3d. You need to be careful how you deal with them, you can pray for them to leave, or you can put up walls of spiritual light with blessings if they mean harm. You are right about giving them power of fear, it can ruin your solace. I personally try to just avoid them, I have had some bad experiences in the past.

Re: unknown entity during astral projection

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:35 pm
by RoseRed
I believe that spirits and ghosts or whatever you wanna call em aren't much of a problem unless you give them substance, although sometimes they can be good at getting your attention haha. I haven't had any issues with anything I've encountered since I started looking at it that way.
Most people initially react with fear. A lot of times - there's no reason to. I hope that continues to work for you.

So, out of your first post - the entity that you saw is what you want to talk about, right?
The last time that I succesfully left my body was the furthest I'd ever gotten, I'd actually managed to take a look around and take in the fact that I'd actually done it before falling back into myself. But when I looked around the room seemed darker than usual and strangely alien in a way, and a few feet in front of my bed I saw some sort of entity sitting on my stand looking at me, it's body was all black like one of those shadow people that people often report seeing but it was wearing a red mask. I felt very strongly that this was not friendly, and that it was of utmost importance that I quickly get back to my body, although this fear could have been from the shock of seeing something like this lol. This happened maybe a month ago and I haven't really been bothered anymore than usual, which isn't much, but I've recently started thinking about the experience again.

My question is, Does anyone have any insight into what this could be? And could it be connected with that presence that I'd felt before? I accept that my mind could have been playing tricks on me, but it was very real, and I know that I was not asleep and had made a conscious decision to try and project.
I would need a little more detail to even try to take a guess as to what it could be. Black body, red mask, not friendly, induced fear.

These things may not consciously bother you anymore (or you choose not to show fear) but what do you think it's doing while you're sleeping? Would you be comfortable with some scary looking stranger off the street sitting in your room watching you sleep?

Re: unknown entity during astral projection

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:29 pm
by insomni4c
I would need a little more detail to even try to take a guess as to what it could be. Black body, red mask, not friendly, induced fear.
It would have been better if I had posted this while the image was more clear in my head, it's hard to remember much more than those features. there may have been a hood or hair or something like that but I'm not 100% on that.
These things may not consciously bother you anymore (or you choose not to show fear) but what do you think it's doing while you're sleeping? Would you be comfortable with some scary looking stranger off the street sitting in your room watching you sleep?
That is a valid point, I guess it could still be hangin' around. I will work on protecting myself just in case. And if it is still around I think I'd like to try and discern it's nature and purpose here. I think just because it was a scary encounter doesn't automatically mean it's malicious, children are afraid of the dark but turning off the light isn't all that dangerous in reality.