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Does anybody have some tips on scrying? I've started working on it but realized in my first session that I really have no idea what I'm doing haha. From what I've read, it looks like most of it you just figure out on your own, but if anyone has a few tips to kinda get the ball rollin' it would be much appreciated.

Are you using any material?
Crystal balls, tarot cards, tealeafs?

Any concentration exorcise will help you.
Charging the object you are working with, with your energy helps.
Have you trained on setting yourself into trance?

I'm new to all of this as well, I don't know what I can call results but a quick tabulation of where I've been:

Back in the day scrying with visuals from hallucinogenic substance - I've had great experiences with that, just that while it's personally inspiring it means nothing in terms of what person can or can't do without it.

Tarot - six months into BOTA and loving it. I still have not tried divining but I did get a truly amazing deck a week ago, the Golden Dawn Temple Tarot (Nick Farrell and Harry Wendrich's deck) which is a deck I feel like I could work with both in it's proximity to BOTA and also the degree of detail they put into it - particularly in having all of the colors on the court cards correlate to the Sephiratic Atziluth/Briah/Yetzirah/Assiah colors. In that sense I have a deck that I'd not only feel comfortable divining with (they themselves wrote the divining instructions rather than outsourcing it) but it looks like these cards will be incredibly powerful in terms of pathworking once I have my brain Qabalistically indexed well enough for that sort of thing.

Black mirror - we all talked about that in another thread. If I relax my eyes too long while fixing my sights on something I get massive obscuring blobs of color.

Pyromancy - I've tried some of the candle exercises recommended by another well known order, don't know what kind of results I really got just that I don't think second sight is something I have available yet. Got excited for a moment when I thought I might have been seeing an aura but I realized rather quickly that candle smoke creates a rainbow around the flame which really just expands and contracts relative to your distance from the candle (it's that degree of light refraction thing).


Overall if you want a really granular, thorough, and long-haul approach I don't think you can go wrong with the tarot, just that you *really* have to get the cards in you. So much of studying them is psychically ingesting them in a manner of speaking (often I can't help thinking of John eating the scroll in the book of Revelation here). Seems like the story goes that as you do that your brain gets a wonderful file allocation table arrange around them and away you go!

I'm using a black mirror, and I don't own a set of tarot cards nor do I have the money for a set (I made my black mirror from scratch haha). I'm planning to consecrate it somehow tonight, still haven't written up a ritual for it yet though I keep putting it off. I can work myself into a bit of a trance through ritual and meditation, but it's nothin too dramatic, what are some ways to get into a deeper trance?

I was able to get a copy of Frater Ashen Chassan's 'Through Stone and Circle' and he had a pretty good chapter in it on getting good results from black mirror and crystal ball scrying.

The most valuable pointer he gave, at least I'm glad he said this in general because people need this kind of honesty, that it will take most people a year or two of steady work before they get anything - that it's not impossible that some people get it within a few times but that they're quite a rare breed and that most people are just better off budgeting their motivation to stick with it and just hunker down. He recommended an hour of scrying per session, I don't know how many sessions he packed in per week but he did note that Mondays (moon) were best astrologically, Wednesdays (Mercury) a close second, and within those two days he'd try to hit the Lunar hour for his meditation, the Mercury hour if that wasn't available, and I'm guessing he'd do the same for any of the other five days that he decided to scry. Taking a guess from the symbolism Fridays and Thursdays (Venus and Jupiter) wouldn't be too terrible, Sundays are the 'all things in the open' and polar opposite to moon - not bad in and of itself but very much a Magician rather than High Priestess sort of day. Saturdays and Tuesdays of course are Saturn and Mars which I'd take as being somewhat cross-purpose.

My guess - if you want to christen the mirror look at doing it on a Monday night, find a good webpage for calculating the planetary hours to see if you can stack moon and moon together, if you have some silvery or white objects incorporate those into the blessing, and come up with a quick prayer stating your intention for the mirror. For a standard opening prayer you could use Psalm 8, its very pious and astrological at the same time, speak to God or the Master Within declaring your intentions with the mirror (self-development, seeking your true inner nature, etc. etc.), come up with a prayer to speak over the water and invoke the power of God to come into it, either splash the mirror with something hyssop-like or dab your finger in it and draw a cross on the mirror, and there you go! The only thing you'd have to be careful of at that point is releasing God from the water once it's done, otherwise your subconscious might track you pouring holy water down the drain or pouring it in the dog dish (The Triple Hecate is a lady from Missouri - what you show her matters).

The above is just food for thought, the most important thing is that you take what's most meaningful to you or what symbolically resonates right, weave it into a ritual to elevate your sense of piety and reaching upward to The One Mind, and if you pay enough attention to the ritual as to emotionally move yourself in the proceedings and planning you've built a good ritual.

Thanks for the suggestions. I was off doing my research and writing up a ritual before reading this, and your suggestion to use holy water was exactly what I was missing haha I came to the same conclusion about doing the ritual in accordance with the moon, so I'm thinking I'll either do it on May 5th or May 12th, since they're both Mondays and the moon will be waxing on those days.

The most valuable pointer he gave, at least I'm glad he said this in general because people need this kind of honesty, that it will take most people a year or two of steady work before they get anything - that it's not impossible that some people get it within a few times but that they're quite a rare breed and that most people are just better off budgeting their motivation to stick with it and just hunker down.

Ah yes I worried that it would be something that would take a long time to get the hang of, here's hoping I'm of that rare breed *crosses fingers*.

Have you ever focused your eyes to see the pic inside of a 3D picture? Try that or just losing focus altogether.

RoseRed wrote:Have you ever focused your eyes to see the pic inside of a 3D picture? Try that or just losing focus altogether.

Thanks, I figured it was something like that but thought I'd find out for sure haha.