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I opened a thread about this several months ago. In the mean time I tried dealing with it, but nobody could do anything. I thought I would post about it again.

I was possessed by a demon partially. I was able to get rid of him but not the effects of possession. I experience twitching symptoms when I fall asleep. I also feel something enter me and experience the twitching. In addition, I experience movement and occasionally rarely electric shock in the centre of my chest. I can also see many things. It is as if my third eye is opening. Another of this effect is 24/7 tickling on my head that occasionally spreads down to other parts of my body. Occasionally, I see strands of my hair flying without much air in the room (even if windows are closed). Sometimes I feel this tickling as some sort of force that touches my back in my sleep. Please note that the tickling and twitching started before I was possessed.

I have stayed away from my occult practices for a while. I only did what was necessary to keep me safe. I have been told that my symptoms are that of a medium and my Higher Self trying to connect with me. Some believe that I am not possessed. I exorcised myself and did some Palo bathing rituals. However, the symptoms are not going away. I have never tried to establish any contact with my Higher Self. My symptoms does not match that of a possessed person as in losing my cognitive abilities and control over my body. I have full control over myself. However, I lack in energy and feel that it started to happen after these symptoms appeared. I also feel that it is also affecting me mentally. Your help will be appreciated.

Don't fear your higher self, that's what will protect you from dark forces. Abandon thinking, feel, use your intuition. If this is indeed your higher self then you will feel okay about it when it comes time to establish connection.

I've faced demons/powerful parasites before, it's not nice but you can beat them. When the twitching comes back, own your body remind yourself that you are you. When fear comes back meditate on it, become it, see it for what it is and it will no longer be fear. If you need any more advice don't hesitate to PM me.

Here are some good threads on similar subjects and problem that you are having:

http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... 7&p=502363

http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... 55&t=38253

http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... 1&p=499369

http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... 55&t=37981

Daud wrote:Don't fear your higher self, that's what will protect you from dark forces. Abandon thinking, feel, use your intuition. If this is indeed your higher self then you will feel okay about it when it comes time to establish connection.

I've faced demons/powerful parasites before, it's not nice but you can beat them. When the twitching comes back, own your body remind yourself that you are you. When fear comes back meditate on it, become it, see it for what it is and it will no longer be fear. If you need any more advice don't hesitate to PM me.

Hello Daud. I am not exactly afraid of these things but tired. It has been a long time you see, so I am used to it. I want to pin-point exactly what is going on. There are so many suggestions from others and even I can't decide what's going on. Am I really possessed? Or am I suffering from psychic attacks? I also want to ensure that the being I am interacting with is really my Higher Self. I got a reading or two and I have been told I am neither possessed nor am I under any sort of attack. I also did some chakra cleansing and taken baths to clean my spiritual body. At this moment I want to know what exactly is the cause of my issues, just in case it gets too late. Other than disturbance in my sleep, physical weakness and mental stress, I am doing fine.

Motumbá Àse

Daud wrote:Don't fear your higher self, that's what will protect you from dark forces. Abandon thinking, feel, use your intuition.If this is indeed your higher self then you will feel okay about it when it comes time to establish connection.

What about if it's not? Very bad advice that one. If it's a obsessor or other obscure being if she lets go it might take over the situation and make it really worse. She needs to know what it really is.

Napoli, dear, you should look for guidance, in person. Stop looking for things in google. You should do REAL spiritual work with REAL guidance of a REAL person. Your situation is very delicate and I see that you deal with it with such little care, almost self-destructively. You should take more care about you and your psyche. That's my advice.

Be ok.

Saravá!
Idansinají

Push this feeling of disgust to the maximum. Grow tired of it till the point of when feeling your back touched, you turn yourself around on your bed and scream "WHAT?!"

Don't act as if whatever is, is not there. Strongly express how you feel about it: You are tired of this situation and want to know why and what the fuck is all about. So either they show you what they must, or they get the fuck out.

The day I did what I have just described changed my life. Don't fear them. Ask and you shall see.

Wish you well,

Napoli wrote: Am I really possessed? Or am I suffering from psychic attacks?

That should probably be the first thing that you answer for yourself. Find out the answer to that first.

I also want to ensure that the being I am interacting with is really my Higher Self.

If you don't know, it's not it.

I got a reading or two and I have been told I am neither possessed nor am I under any sort of attack.

Do your own readings.

I also did some chakra cleansing and taken baths to clean my spiritual body. At this moment I want to know what exactly is the cause of my issues, just in case it gets too late. Other than disturbance in my sleep, physical weakness and mental stress, I am doing fine.

Well, that is good. That is very positive.
Just remember that it's just like cleaning your house, you need to do it more then once, because there will always be more dust.

Obviously what you should do from here is to go an see a medical doctor. To make sure that you don't have any vitamin or mineral deficiency. Vitamin D deficiency can cause depressions, zink and magnesium deficiency can make you lethargic. Small internal infections like urine infection can make you feel very tired over longer periods. A simple blodtest for white blood cells will tell you if you have or have had anything bad going on inside. Also check for diabetes.

Going to a psychiatrist, priest, consoler of some sort is a great way to get rid of some mental stress. Sometime it just helps to complain about life for an hour to a stranger just to get some shit of our chest.

Obviously you need to continue with the cleansing, but you should also shield yourself so that the negative energy doesn't come back so easily. Aura shielding is very easy to do, and putting up mental shields can actually be fun, because you get to be creative.
And then for the physical shielding; herbal and candle magic is a great way to actually DO something without it costing too much or taking too much energy. Also, it smells great.

WillowDarkWytch wrote:Motumbá Àse

Daud wrote:Don't fear your higher self, that's what will protect you from dark forces. Abandon thinking, feel, use your intuition.If this is indeed your higher self then you will feel okay about it when it comes time to establish connection.

What about if it's not? Very bad advice that one. If it's a obsessor or other obscure being if she lets go it might take over the situation and make it really worse. She needs to know what it really is.

Napoli, dear, you should look for guidance, in person. Stop looking for things in google. You should do REAL spiritual work with REAL guidance of a REAL person. Your situation is very delicate and I see that you deal with it with such little care, almost self-destructively. You should take more care about you and your psyche. That's my advice.

Be ok.

Saravá!
Idansinají

Hello Willow. Yes, I did get professional help. I went to a Palera. She did readings for me and said I am not possessed. She believes since I am a medium, it is all about astral gunk and pent-up energy of my previous magical work. She send me a bag of bitter herbs to cleanse myself. She was a Demonolator in the past, so she called up the demon who had been giving me a hard time and asked him to stay away from me. She has worked with him before.

Update: I forgot to mention this in my OP that I see visions in my sleep, usually accompanying the twitching. They include- Neo Queen Serenity from 'Sailor Moon' [confused] , roses, a chandelier, flower petals, a copper bell making noise, what looked like a wingless bee or butterfly, etc. Last night I saw something that had me totally baffled. I saw a bunch of clothes laid on my mosquito net. I was able to see it for a few seconds with my open eyes before the vanished. One of them looked like little girl's frock. I went back to sleep again. Again, I woke up and saw more clothes laid on the net. These visions are solid as if they are real. I tried to touch the roses before but they are incorporeal.

Desecrated wrote:Here are some good threads on similar subjects and problem that you are having:

http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... 7&p=502363

http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... 55&t=38253

http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... 1&p=499369

http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... 55&t=37981

Hi Desecrated. I was wondering if the protective measures you have mentioned in the threads will work if I am already possessed, or if the entity already has control over my spiritual body?

Napoli wrote:
Hi Desecrated. I was wondering if the protective measures you have mentioned in the threads will work if I am already possessed, or if the entity already has control over my spiritual body?

Absolutely.
It doesn't matter how dirty the floor is, water and soap will always do the trick.

Napoli wrote: Hello Willow. Yes, I did get professional help. I went to a Palera. She did readings for me and said I am not possessed. She believes since I am a medium, it is all about astral gunk and pent-up energy of my previous magical work. She send me a bag of bitter herbs to cleanse myself. She was a Demonolator in the past, so she called up the demon who had been giving me a hard time and asked him to stay away from me. She has worked with him before.

Did she helped? You feel that she really helped? If so, have you think to deal with your mediumship through Palo? Because I think that maybe that would be the best path for you.

Update: I forgot to mention this in my OP that I see visions in my sleep, usually accompanying the twitching. They include- Neo Queen Serenity from 'Sailor Moon' [confused] , roses, a chandelier, flower petals, a copper bell making noise, what looked like a wingless bee or butterfly, etc. Last night I saw something that had me totally baffled. I saw a bunch of clothes laid on my mosquito net. I was able to see it for a few seconds with my open eyes before the vanished. One of them looked like little girl's frock. I went back to sleep again. Again, I woke up and saw more clothes laid on the net. These visions are solid as if they are real. I tried to touch the roses before but they are incorporeal.

Again, I do think you're a medium, I told you that. Neo Queen Serenity is part of your uncounscious self but you have a lot of mediumship signs.

Desecrated wrote: Absolutely.
It doesn't matter how dirty the floor is, water and soap will always do the trick.

Yeah, sometimes it takes more soap and more water, and even more time to get it cleaned, BUT the basis is the same

Saravá!
Idansinají

WillowDarkWytch wrote: Yeah, sometimes it takes more soap and more water, and even more time to get it cleaned, BUT the basis is the same

I got hired to clean out an old barn once. Water and soap will always do the job, but yes, it takes a lot more effort the more shit there is.
And today people have a kinda of "pokemon, gotta catch them all" mentality with protection. We don't need to mix 5 traditions together to get protection.
Hang a cross on the wall. Even the most hardcore atheist is going to feel safe from it. No matter how well educated we become, we still have 1600 years of christianity in our unconscious and it will always trigger the same response.

Did she helped? You feel that she really helped? If so, have you think to deal with your mediumship through Palo? Because I think that maybe that would be the best path for you

I am afraid the answer is no [sadface] . That's why I have decided to take things into my own hands.

WillowDarkWytch wrote:Motumbá Àse

Daud wrote:Don't fear your higher self, that's what will protect you from dark forces. Abandon thinking, feel, use your intuition.If this is indeed your higher self then you will feel okay about it when it comes time to establish connection.

What about if it's not? Very bad advice that one. If it's a obsessor or other obscure being if she lets go it might take over the situation and make it really worse. She needs to know what it really is.

Napoli, dear, you should look for guidance, in person. Stop looking for things in google. You should do REAL spiritual work with REAL guidance of a REAL person. Your situation is very delicate and I see that you deal with it with such little care, almost self-destructively. You should take more care about you and your psyche. That's my advice.

Be ok.

Saravá!
Idansinají

Yes, looking back on it that was terribly worded. I meant that OP should do some real spiritual work first to determine what it actually was by meditating and overcoming fear/anxiety and then move onto accepting the higher self, if that is indeed what OP is dealing with (which i kind of doubt)
My apologies, i should have written that much more clearly.

Daud wrote:Yes, looking back on it that was terribly worded. I meant that OP should do some real spiritual work first to determine what it actually was by meditating and overcoming fear/anxiety and then move onto accepting the higher self, if that is indeed what OP is dealing with (which i kind of doubt)
My apologies, i should have written that much more clearly.

How does one differentiate between one's Higher Self and other spirits?

Napoli wrote:

Daud wrote:Yes, looking back on it that was terribly worded. I meant that OP should do some real spiritual work first to determine what it actually was by meditating and overcoming fear/anxiety and then move onto accepting the higher self, if that is indeed what OP is dealing with (which i kind of doubt)
My apologies, i should have written that much more clearly.

How does one differentiate between one's Higher Self and other spirits?

Easily.

Higher self is internal, spirits are external and are usually hinderances to spiritual progress. I believe you are dealing with a hindering spirit, and not your higher self.

A spirit wants something from you, or to hurt you. A manifesting 'higher self' or Buddha nature will be trying to communicate something in regards to your behaviour. It will likely not persist for long, which is why i don't believe it is your higher self.

Any reasonably talented medium should be able to work out if it is indeed a spirit, or your higher self and hopefully be able to channel it. Remember to always get a 2nd opinion and don't doubt your own intuition. You immediately were threatened by it, this could indicate a fear of your potential, but it is much more likely that it is actually a spirit.

Good luck, i'm sorry i didn't write this out with proper clarity initially.

Daud wrote:

Napoli wrote:

Daud wrote:Yes, looking back on it that was terribly worded. I meant that OP should do some real spiritual work first to determine what it actually was by meditating and overcoming fear/anxiety and then move onto accepting the higher self, if that is indeed what OP is dealing with (which i kind of doubt)
My apologies, i should have written that much more clearly.

How does one differentiate between one's Higher Self and other spirits?

Easily.

Higher self is internal, spirits are external and are usually hinderances to spiritual progress. I believe you are dealing with a hindering spirit, and not your higher self.

A spirit wants something from you, or to hurt you. A manifesting 'higher self' or Buddha nature will be trying to communicate something in regards to your behaviour. It will likely not persist for long, which is why i don't believe it is your higher self.

Any reasonably talented medium should be able to work out if it is indeed a spirit, or your higher self and hopefully be able to channel it. Remember to always get a 2nd opinion and don't doubt your own intuition. You immediately were threatened by it, this could indicate a fear of your potential, but it is much more likely that it is actually a spirit.

Good luck, i'm sorry i didn't write this out with proper clarity initially.

Thanks. No problem. I have no idea about experiences with one's Higher Self. This will be useful.

Motumbá

Desecrated wrote:
I got hired to clean out an old barn once. Water and soap will always do the job, but yes, it takes a lot more effort the more shit there is.
And today people have a kinda of "pokemon, gotta catch them all" mentality with protection. We don't need to mix 5 traditions together to get protection.
Hang a cross on the wall. Even the most hardcore atheist is going to feel safe from it. No matter how well educated we become, we still have 1600 years of christianity in our unconscious and it will always trigger the same response.

I totally agree. One well done ritual will do the trick. AAAND yes, we have a lot of christian imagery charges in our collective uncounscious mind, so even me being ADR practitioner, do use sometimes christian "magics", I consider them "folk magic", just like Hoodoo in USA, Simpatias in Brazil, in Chile we don't have a "name" for it, but we do have a LOT of christian aborigen mixture of magical recipes. Hoodoo has it, most ADR have it, it's part of western world magics, so these symbols have at least a charge of power by their own.

Napoli wrote:Did she helped? You feel that she really helped? If so, have you think to deal with your mediumship through Palo? Because I think that maybe that would be the best path for you

I am afraid the answer is no [sadface] . That's why I have decided to take things into my own hands.

Sorry to hear that. I could help you in the distance to develop, slowly and safely, your mediumship BUT you need to clean up first. If you want we could start where we left it? If you want, PM me

*I'm not offering services, just to keep it clear

Daud wrote: Yes, looking back on it that was terribly worded. I meant that OP should do some real spiritual work first to determine what it actually was by meditating and overcoming fear/anxiety and then move onto accepting the higher self, if that is indeed what OP is dealing with (which i kind of doubt)
My apologies, i should have written that much more clearly.

It's ok don't worry. It's just that I imagined that situation in a very negative way hehe

Saravá
Idansinají

I don't mean to say this with the intention of offending anyone, but I would like to request any OF member who is reading this post to not offer to help anyone, unless one is assured of it. I have opened this thread after trying both professionals and fellow practitioners. Some of them did their best and some couldn't make time. This is now my battle. I am grateful for all your advice; please keep them coming if you feel like it. However, I am sure this thread has provided me with enough advice to try something out on my own. Thanks again.

Just wanted to add that demons/parasites are the Higher Self. It's all the same phenomenon. There's no division when it comes to energy. Anyone who can't handle a parasitic force living in their body probably shouldn't have anything to do with occultism. Live a physical life instead.

Set a boundary with occultism in general, not "specific entities."

Next wrote:Just wanted to add that demons/parasites are the Higher Self. It's all the same phenomenon. There's no division when it comes to energy. Anyone who can't handle a parasitic force living in their body probably shouldn't have anything to do with occultism. Live a physical life instead.

Set a boundary with occultism in general, not "specific entities."

I believe that everything in this universe comes from the same Source. Nonetheless, we are all different individuals. Higher Selves are not parasitic beings. They are a part of our whole spiritual system, and highest one at that. No offence, but why would anyone want to nurture parasites in one's body, either physical (tapeworms) or spiritual (any spirit that is not part of the individual self)?