Original post: LavenderFields
I was wondering. I've been studing the tarot about 7 months now and while i still have alot to learn, I think I do okay. My question is I do use the tarot for divination after spellcasting to see what the outcome will be. The last two times the cards have shown that I can expect a positive outcome, however;
1. One of those times, the outcome was not positive, and
2. While I am waiting for something to shift for me in the positive role, I'm not seeing it happening.
I know patience is a virtue and I am trying to stay patient and focused, but I'm thinking my spellcasting is much better than my divination reading.
Any suggestions?
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If you're doing this immediately after spellcasting you may not be feeding the cards enough energy to get an accurate outcome. Or if you're just not really focusing on the outcome. I don't know how you're reading, but if you flip the card a certain way and then second guess yourself and rotate it the opposite way (i.e., you flip it vertically but decide to change it as if you rotated it horizontally), then you're second guessing the intuition and the will of the card, and thus getting an inappropriate reading.
your "negative outcome" may only be negative in the short term. Perhaps it leads to the positive in the up and coming, or in the long term.
If you have uncertainty in your abilities then the cards won't read correctly.
There are a lot of factors that could be playing into it.
This is all coming from someone that is by no means experienced in tarot. However, I'm almost always on the money with my readings, uncovering the past and present to a startling degree of accuracy to the querant, and finding an accurate future.
I've been told by a few on here that I'm a natural with tarot - that the fact that I started with the Thoth deck and was able to use it effectively was an indication of natural ability. That's not to say I know everything, or anything for that matter. I just thought i'd give myself a safety net incase I come out utterly wrong or amazingly right
If you're doing this immediately after spellcasting you may not be feeding the cards enough energy to get an accurate outcome. Or if you're just not really focusing on the outcome. I don't know how you're reading, but if you flip the card a certain way and then second guess yourself and rotate it the opposite way (i.e., you flip it vertically but decide to change it as if you rotated it horizontally), then you're second guessing the intuition and the will of the card, and thus getting an inappropriate reading.
your "negative outcome" may only be negative in the short term. Perhaps it leads to the positive in the up and coming, or in the long term.
If you have uncertainty in your abilities then the cards won't read correctly.
There are a lot of factors that could be playing into it.
This is all coming from someone that is by no means experienced in tarot. However, I'm almost always on the money with my readings, uncovering the past and present to a startling degree of accuracy to the querant, and finding an accurate future.
I've been told by a few on here that I'm a natural with tarot - that the fact that I started with the Thoth deck and was able to use it effectively was an indication of natural ability. That's not to say I know everything, or anything for that matter. I just thought i'd give myself a safety net incase I come out utterly wrong or amazingly right
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Original post: ~ Serenity ~
[QUOTE=LavenderFields]I was wondering. I've been studing the tarot about 7 months now and while i still have alot to learn, I think I do okay. My question is I do use the tarot for divination after spellcasting to see what the outcome will be. The last two times the cards have shown that I can expect a positive outcome, however;
1. One of those times, the outcome was not positive, and
2. While I am waiting for something to shift for me in the positive role, I'm not seeing it happening.
I know patience is a virtue and I am trying to stay patient and focused, but I'm thinking my spellcasting is much better than my divination reading.
Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
Hi Lavenderfields,
I'm wondering why you would do the reading after the spell? I think it makes more sense to look at your cards first and ascertain if the spell is an appropriate one to be doing in the first place. If you get a positive, let's say an encouraging response, do the spell and don't second guess it. I do a divination of some type, usually tarot, before any work of magical nature. I've never checked in afterwards to see.
Use the cards to assess the wisdom of your proposed action, then you can proceed (or not) with confidence.
Good luck,
feranaja
[QUOTE=LavenderFields]I was wondering. I've been studing the tarot about 7 months now and while i still have alot to learn, I think I do okay. My question is I do use the tarot for divination after spellcasting to see what the outcome will be. The last two times the cards have shown that I can expect a positive outcome, however;
1. One of those times, the outcome was not positive, and
2. While I am waiting for something to shift for me in the positive role, I'm not seeing it happening.
I know patience is a virtue and I am trying to stay patient and focused, but I'm thinking my spellcasting is much better than my divination reading.
Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
Hi Lavenderfields,
I'm wondering why you would do the reading after the spell? I think it makes more sense to look at your cards first and ascertain if the spell is an appropriate one to be doing in the first place. If you get a positive, let's say an encouraging response, do the spell and don't second guess it. I do a divination of some type, usually tarot, before any work of magical nature. I've never checked in afterwards to see.
Use the cards to assess the wisdom of your proposed action, then you can proceed (or not) with confidence.
Good luck,
feranaja
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Original post: Dracophoenix
I would have to agree with feranaja completely on this one. Very well put and better said than I would have said it too.
I would have to agree with feranaja completely on this one. Very well put and better said than I would have said it too.
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Original post: ~ Serenity ~
Thank you DP. But dont shortsell yourself, you express things very well too, imo.
fera
Thank you DP. But dont shortsell yourself, you express things very well too, imo.
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Original post: LavenderFields
Thanks very much for your feedback. While I know what I want when I spellcast, I guess I use the cards to "show me" whether what I want is actually what I'll get. Perhaps the next spell, I will consult the cards first and see what kind of feeling I get from doing it that was instead. On the same subject of divination, has anyone used scrying amulets? I saw a beautiful faery black onyx I would love to get, but just not sure yet. Is there anything special you need to do, I know concentration is key...Any thoughts??
Thanks very much for your feedback. While I know what I want when I spellcast, I guess I use the cards to "show me" whether what I want is actually what I'll get. Perhaps the next spell, I will consult the cards first and see what kind of feeling I get from doing it that was instead. On the same subject of divination, has anyone used scrying amulets? I saw a beautiful faery black onyx I would love to get, but just not sure yet. Is there anything special you need to do, I know concentration is key...Any thoughts??
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Original post: Dracophoenix
[QUOTE=LavenderFields] On the same subject of divination, has anyone used scrying amulets? I saw a beautiful faery black onyx I would love to get, but just not sure yet. Is there anything special you need to do, I know concentration is key...Any thoughts??[/QUOTE]
We have a sticky for questions on scrying. I'll leave my suggestion there for your question o scrying there. Please in the future use seperate questions on a different topics in existing threads if they exist. It makes it less confusing not just on mods but other members who maybe wondering the same thing.
[QUOTE=LavenderFields] On the same subject of divination, has anyone used scrying amulets? I saw a beautiful faery black onyx I would love to get, but just not sure yet. Is there anything special you need to do, I know concentration is key...Any thoughts??[/QUOTE]
We have a sticky for questions on scrying. I'll leave my suggestion there for your question o scrying there. Please in the future use seperate questions on a different topics in existing threads if they exist. It makes it less confusing not just on mods but other members who maybe wondering the same thing.
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Original post: wonders
Totally agree with feranaja... you would do first a divination and then proceed with your actions. Just to back this up I would suggest reading M. Kreg, as Tarot divination regarding the work you are about to do is a subject he refers to from the very start of Modern Magick
Totally agree with feranaja... you would do first a divination and then proceed with your actions. Just to back this up I would suggest reading M. Kreg, as Tarot divination regarding the work you are about to do is a subject he refers to from the very start of Modern Magick