Original post: Kuroyagi
I have found it interesting that Harmony (Harmonia) is the child of War (Ares) and Love (Aphrodite).
Also that an important aspect of harmony as I understand it seems to lie in the consolidation of antagonistic things and concepts and polarities rather than in the mere adding-up of things that are similar anyway. that makes her so beautiful- as does her darker aspects she has inherited from her father and that she gives to her heir (oidipus)
Any thoughts?
Harmonia (Harmony)
-
Occult Forum Archive
- Magister
- Posts: 287885
- Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:32 am
Harmonia (Harmony)
Original post: nebhotep
hi
concerning this aspect an example that could be considered similar exists in egyptian mythology. Set is the god of chaos and Horus the god of order. many today beleive that only Horus should be worshipped and that keeps the balance set. however the true case is that only by acknowledging choas then can you accept order and maintain a balance if that is any help?
blessings to you.
hi
concerning this aspect an example that could be considered similar exists in egyptian mythology. Set is the god of chaos and Horus the god of order. many today beleive that only Horus should be worshipped and that keeps the balance set. however the true case is that only by acknowledging choas then can you accept order and maintain a balance if that is any help?
blessings to you.
-
Occult Forum Archive
- Magister
- Posts: 287885
- Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:32 am
Harmonia (Harmony)
Original post: PaulS
In the Greek pantheon there is the product of a union between Hermes and Aphrodite.
the first recorded hermaphrodite?
PaulS
In the Greek pantheon there is the product of a union between Hermes and Aphrodite.
the first recorded hermaphrodite?
PaulS
-
Occult Forum Archive
- Magister
- Posts: 287885
- Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:32 am
Harmonia (Harmony)
Original post: Ra-Razal
lol, i like that.
lol, i like that.
-
Occult Forum Archive
- Magister
- Posts: 287885
- Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:32 am
Harmonia (Harmony)
Original post: Caradoc
[QUOTE=PaulS]In the Greek pantheon there is the product of a union between Hermes and Aphrodite.
the first recorded hermaphrodite?
[/QUOTE]
On the off-chance that was a serious question... yes, that's where Hermaphrodite comes from :?
[QUOTE=PaulS]In the Greek pantheon there is the product of a union between Hermes and Aphrodite.
the first recorded hermaphrodite?
[/QUOTE]
On the off-chance that was a serious question... yes, that's where Hermaphrodite comes from :?
-
Occult Forum Archive
- Magister
- Posts: 287885
- Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:32 am
Harmonia (Harmony)
Original post: Sud Ram
From Merriam-Webster:
Main Entry: har·mo·ny
Pronunciation: 'här-m&-nE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -nies
Etymology: Middle English armony, from Middle French armonie, from Latin harmonia, from Greek, joint, harmony, from harmos joint -- more at ARM
1 archaic : tuneful sound : MELODY
2 a : the combination of simultaneous musical notes in a chord b : the structure of music with respect to the composition and progression of chords c : the science of the structure, relation, and progression of chords
3 a : pleasing or congruent arrangement of parts b : CORRESPONDENCE, ACCORD c : internal calm : TRANQUILLITY
4 a : an interweaving of different accounts into a single narrative b : a systematic arrangement of parallel literary passages (as of the Gospels) for the purpose of showing agreement or harmony
Agreement and concordance are the key words here in my opinion. Such concepts are the materialization of an openness of both parts to work together. This is the same with music form example, for two sounds to work togeteher they must be open to their corresponding frequencies and tones.
It would be interesting to see where the word Symbiosis comes from and see it's connection to Harmony, mythologically.
Here is it's definition again from Merriam-Webster
Main Entry: sym·bi·o·sis
Pronunciation: "sim-bE-'O-s&s, -"bI-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural sym·bi·o·ses /-"sEz/
Etymology: New Latin, from German Symbiose, from Greek symbiOsis state of living together, from symbioun to live together, from symbios living together, from syn- + bios life -- more at QUICK
1 : the living together in more or less intimate association or close union of two dissimilar organisms
2 : the intimate living together of two dissimilar organisms in a mutually beneficial relationship; especially : MUTUALISM
3 : a cooperative relationship (as between two persons or groups)
- sym·bi·ot·ic /-'ä-tik/ adjective
- sym·bi·ot·i·cal·ly /-ti-k(&-)lE/ adverb
From Merriam-Webster:
Main Entry: har·mo·ny
Pronunciation: 'här-m&-nE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -nies
Etymology: Middle English armony, from Middle French armonie, from Latin harmonia, from Greek, joint, harmony, from harmos joint -- more at ARM
1 archaic : tuneful sound : MELODY
2 a : the combination of simultaneous musical notes in a chord b : the structure of music with respect to the composition and progression of chords c : the science of the structure, relation, and progression of chords
3 a : pleasing or congruent arrangement of parts b : CORRESPONDENCE, ACCORD c : internal calm : TRANQUILLITY
4 a : an interweaving of different accounts into a single narrative b : a systematic arrangement of parallel literary passages (as of the Gospels) for the purpose of showing agreement or harmony
Agreement and concordance are the key words here in my opinion. Such concepts are the materialization of an openness of both parts to work together. This is the same with music form example, for two sounds to work togeteher they must be open to their corresponding frequencies and tones.
It would be interesting to see where the word Symbiosis comes from and see it's connection to Harmony, mythologically.
Here is it's definition again from Merriam-Webster
Main Entry: sym·bi·o·sis
Pronunciation: "sim-bE-'O-s&s, -"bI-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural sym·bi·o·ses /-"sEz/
Etymology: New Latin, from German Symbiose, from Greek symbiOsis state of living together, from symbioun to live together, from symbios living together, from syn- + bios life -- more at QUICK
1 : the living together in more or less intimate association or close union of two dissimilar organisms
2 : the intimate living together of two dissimilar organisms in a mutually beneficial relationship; especially : MUTUALISM
3 : a cooperative relationship (as between two persons or groups)
- sym·bi·ot·ic /-'ä-tik/ adjective
- sym·bi·ot·i·cal·ly /-ti-k(&-)lE/ adverb
-
Occult Forum Archive
- Magister
- Posts: 287885
- Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:32 am
Harmonia (Harmony)
Original post: callum
i'm not sure which ancient Greek philosopher it was that said that the cosmos was the dance of Love and Strife (Eros/Affinity and... I'm tempted to say Eris/Strife, but I think he used a different word meaning Difference or Uniquenss). the Buddhists describe two of the causes of suffering as Passion/Attachment and Aversion/Disappointment... perhaps Harmonia is the path between... or over. i know there is no mythic precedence, but i like to think of Harmonia as the sister of Iris, the rainbow of many shimmering colours, a child of sunlight and rain.
i'm not sure which ancient Greek philosopher it was that said that the cosmos was the dance of Love and Strife (Eros/Affinity and... I'm tempted to say Eris/Strife, but I think he used a different word meaning Difference or Uniquenss). the Buddhists describe two of the causes of suffering as Passion/Attachment and Aversion/Disappointment... perhaps Harmonia is the path between... or over. i know there is no mythic precedence, but i like to think of Harmonia as the sister of Iris, the rainbow of many shimmering colours, a child of sunlight and rain.
-
Occult Forum Archive
- Magister
- Posts: 287885
- Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:32 am
Harmonia (Harmony)
Original post: Kuroyagi
[QUOTE=nebhotep]hi
concerning this aspect an example that could be considered similar exists in egyptian mythology. Set is the god of chaos and Horus the god of order. many today beleive that only Horus should be worshipped and that keeps the balance set. however the true case is that only by acknowledging choas then can you accept order and maintain a balance if that is any help?
blessings to you.[/QUOTE]damn fine example, nebhotep- hadnt thought of that at all, but knowing the famous story of seth and horus this posesses exactly this sublime beauty I spoke of.
the two form a contract, are bound and united in the rule of the pharao over the 2 kingdoms (they respectively also represent)-its a constitutive mythical and legal act of the renewed foundation of the country. at the same time seth is the desert, chaos, the foreign, the violence: but this violence is integrated, is of use to horus still: he takes seth unto his bark to fend off apophis- the mighty seth knows of power (the testicle) and violence- as a representative of them he has an evil-averting (apo-tropaic) function; and though horus (the eye) somehow holds a primate of souvereignity seth isnt merely only subjugated but in this sense harmonized. most elegant, the stuff of magic and creation...
paul: Im w caradoc here- Im not sure what you are trying to get at- could you elaborate? (but there is depth in your thought for sure: the hermaphrodite (or more generally the andro-gyn) is eg the widely known symbol for the stone or the outcome of the Great Work etc- though it is curious that eg in the kybalion the dual principle (of polarity) is mentioned seperated from the one of male/female...(??)
[QUOTE=nebhotep]hi
concerning this aspect an example that could be considered similar exists in egyptian mythology. Set is the god of chaos and Horus the god of order. many today beleive that only Horus should be worshipped and that keeps the balance set. however the true case is that only by acknowledging choas then can you accept order and maintain a balance if that is any help?
blessings to you.[/QUOTE]damn fine example, nebhotep- hadnt thought of that at all, but knowing the famous story of seth and horus this posesses exactly this sublime beauty I spoke of.
the two form a contract, are bound and united in the rule of the pharao over the 2 kingdoms (they respectively also represent)-its a constitutive mythical and legal act of the renewed foundation of the country. at the same time seth is the desert, chaos, the foreign, the violence: but this violence is integrated, is of use to horus still: he takes seth unto his bark to fend off apophis- the mighty seth knows of power (the testicle) and violence- as a representative of them he has an evil-averting (apo-tropaic) function; and though horus (the eye) somehow holds a primate of souvereignity seth isnt merely only subjugated but in this sense harmonized. most elegant, the stuff of magic and creation...
paul: Im w caradoc here- Im not sure what you are trying to get at- could you elaborate? (but there is depth in your thought for sure: the hermaphrodite (or more generally the andro-gyn) is eg the widely known symbol for the stone or the outcome of the Great Work etc- though it is curious that eg in the kybalion the dual principle (of polarity) is mentioned seperated from the one of male/female...(??)
-
Occult Forum Archive
- Magister
- Posts: 287885
- Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:32 am
Harmonia (Harmony)
Original post: Kuroyagi
here the image I was reminded of when reading that
I united both Lords
by ruling as the Son of Isis
and being strong like the Son of Nut!
here the image I was reminded of when reading that
I united both Lords
by ruling as the Son of Isis
and being strong like the Son of Nut!
-
Occult Forum Archive
- Magister
- Posts: 287885
- Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:32 am
Harmonia (Harmony)
Original post: PaulS
[QUOTE=Caradoc]On the off-chance that was a serious question... yes, that's where Hermaphrodite comes from :?[/QUOTE]
Caradoc,
It was a rhetorical question - I knew the answer. But I was serious. The "perfect" blending of male and female in a balanced physical form is rare and, to me, delightful.
PaulS
[QUOTE=Caradoc]On the off-chance that was a serious question... yes, that's where Hermaphrodite comes from :?[/QUOTE]
Caradoc,
It was a rhetorical question - I knew the answer. But I was serious. The "perfect" blending of male and female in a balanced physical form is rare and, to me, delightful.
PaulS
-
Occult Forum Archive
- Magister
- Posts: 287885
- Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:32 am
Harmonia (Harmony)
Original post: Caradoc
[QUOTE=PaulS]Caradoc,
It was a rhetorical question - I knew the answer. But I was serious. The "perfect" blending of male and female in a balanced physical form is rare and, to me, delightful.
PaulS[/QUOTE]
Delightful indeed, and always worth a mention
I figured it might be a rhetorical question but you never know when it's just text (that's why I used the confused smilie). I wasn't trying to suggest I think you too dumb to know that
[QUOTE=PaulS]Caradoc,
It was a rhetorical question - I knew the answer. But I was serious. The "perfect" blending of male and female in a balanced physical form is rare and, to me, delightful.
PaulS[/QUOTE]
Delightful indeed, and always worth a mention
I figured it might be a rhetorical question but you never know when it's just text (that's why I used the confused smilie). I wasn't trying to suggest I think you too dumb to know that