LBRP silent vibration of words

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Original post: nickma11

Hello All,

I'm looking to start practing the LBRP on a daily basis. Based on my current living situation I cannot vibrate or say the rest of the ritual out loud. Is is possible to internally vibrate the names and get the same results?

I'm also looking to do this with the middle pillar ritual etc..

Thanks

-Nick

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Original post: BrotherM

Commonly called the Great Voice - look it up or search on here

broM

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Original post: thief_and_a_liar

Dude, forget saying a single word in that ritual. Rather invent your own way of protection.

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Original post: EarthChild

You can whisper the words, but in your mind imagine saying/hearing them loudly.

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Original post: LucianAccendus

Ave

The formation of the Great Voice, I've found and read else where, is expedited by the use of regular vibration of words of power (i.e. physical voice). In other words, it will take a while to develop (if at all) if you do not know what it is like to properly vibrate the words using the magical voice. I'm sure you can find some time, some where, to practice vibration (go for a walk, out to a park, etc.). Otherwise, be prepared for a lot of work with little result (running before you can stand).

Deo Duce Comite Ferro

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Original post: Shin

Vibrate strongly but silent. Feel the words go through your heart and out to the universe.

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Original post: HoneyBeard

Adonis and the peach went to garage sale
The peach said, Sod this, Lets.

They went home.

You need no protection, when your heart quickens, and your mind races, means there's extra guests at your party, really, don't be afraid, invite them in.

Let us know.

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Original post: nickma11

Hello all,

Thanks for all your help. I did a search on the Great Voice but didn't find anything on this forum. I don't know if I'm doing the search correctly. If someone can point me to some resources that would be great.

-Nick

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Original post: LucianAccendus

Ave

Was that a pun?



Deo Duce Comite Ferro

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Original post: paaa

I would say that any magician feeling the need to shout or even be verbal during intonation/vibration hasnâ??t understood the most basic lessons of ritual magic.

Intonation/Vibration has a lot to do with visualization and directed flows of energy and almost nothing to do with voice. The hugest benefit comes from visualizing the words and their energy both in inhalation and exhalation. If you don't wish to sound like a stupid westerner imitating Tibetan throat song... poorly - don't!


Learn to visualize the words properly and speak them in your mind, it works equally well.

[Scraw Darkblade]

Hey guys, I am practicing LBRP and I am doing both the Great Voice and as well as the normal vibrating of words.

Apparently, LBRP as instructed, must be done of how it must be executed (some has their own revisions and versions) but of course I have NEVER saw an instruction that you could perform it silently.

But one night, my mind speak to me when I was idle and said "Do it silently and then see what happens".

So I did try LBRP silently and was astonished, I was so focused on the ritual that I was drawn into the world of phantasm and I have never experienced it before it's like you are on a virtual reality. To me, yes i could recite it with my whole heart and faith but then when I performed the ritual, my mind project what it has and should project, charged every visualization with accurate and plus (I can't explain and over stress it much) and to rate my self doing it from 1 - 10 I would say its 15!

but to all who are experienced and wiser I want your help and understanding

1. Does being completely silent physically (even with my mouth was not moving but my mind do) will be as effective as vibrating it/perform it using the Great Voice?

2. I am not that scared with my mind btw, but is it the voice of your Holy Guardian Angel?

I am practicing Thelemic/Hermetic way of doing it. (I have devised my own visualization of all this and conjoined their techniques try to be as ecclectic as possible) and following "Kragian" way of viewing magick.

I hope Adepts and all those who can explain this will shed light on the issue.

Thanks in advance!

[CCoburn]

The whole point(I believe) is to project the waveform into spacetime(aether), so as to mimic or reproduce something akin to the primordial frequencies(Logos). Some say to lower your voice as much as possible, this gets you closer to the initial frequencies of the Universe, which were probably close to zero cycles(Hz)per second. I prefer to start at medium pitch with a vibration, and then lower the last 1-3 syllables.

You can do it internally but its not the same.

[CCoburn]

I should also mention that, for me personally, vibrating words of power(externally)has a positive effect on me psychologically...It adds POWER to the ritual.

[Shinichi]

There are typically three practical ways to vibrate a magical word. Which is besides all the other ways to magically intone a sound and word, but that's besides the point.

The first method of magical vibration is to intone the vibration out loud, and this creates physical vibrations that you can then direct to certain places and command to do certain things via concentration. The body produces the vibration, the mind controls them.

The second method is to intone the vibration in a whisper. This creates physical vibrations, but they are not very loud, and may even be subsonic (which, for all practical purposes, is silent to the human ear). So the vibrations, silent and weak, are focused, amplified, and directed via mental and astral control of the forces being vibrated.

The third method is to intone the vibration entirely by mental command. This, done correctly, creates the same vibrations as the physical vibration (the first method) but without using any physical intonation - not aloud, and not in whisper. Instead, the imagination forms the sound, and the vibrations are created astrally and condensed to such a point that they are able to affect the physical. They will not be heard, generally, but they can be felt and can do the same work as the physical vibrations.

It has been said by some that the third method is the most potent, but it should also be understood as the most advanced, since it requires the most concentration, imagination, and astral strength. The first method, by contrast, is much easier.

There is also a good article in The Journal of the Western Mystery Tradition, called The Vibratory Formula and its Use in Daily Ritual Work, which should be read especially by anyone doing classical rituals like the Middle Pillar and LBRP. Scarborough does an excellent job of introducing his reader to the concept and the practice of vibrating magical formula in traditional hermetic rituals.



~:Shin:~

[Scraw Darkblade]

Thank you for making this topic alive again, and so credits to the one who have opened it. I was really wondering since, though magick as have said by Kraig "Magick is not what we do, it is what we are" I am still encumbered by my problems of not doing it correctly.

It will benefit me not only on LBRP but also in BRH and hopefully in consecration of materials and Watchtower ritual.

Thanks!