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I am in the process of making my first ceremonial tools. So far I have 2 things that I am working on: My wand (for channeling, not the elemental weapon), and a magical weapon I found in some grimoire called a rod. The rod is like the wand except it is larger (slightly thicker) and is used for self defense, not channeling or ritual work. They are both Willow. (Weeping to be exact.)
The only problem is that I want to put some things on it but do not have the experience to know what names of power and other magical words are suitable for such works. I was hoping that someone here would be able to give me some ideas as to what I should engrave (or wood burn, I'm good at woodburning) on these tools.
Oh and please don't say "use what the grimoire/book told you to." If this was the option I wanted to or was able to choose, I wouldn't post this thread. Thank you.
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What grimoire is it from and what exactly is its purpose? I know self defense but from what, elaborate. A good choice is a godname attributed to Geburah (GBVRH in hebrew), the GD uses ALHIM GBR (strong gods) in hebrew.
What grimoire is it from and what exactly is its purpose? I know self defense but from what, elaborate. A good choice is a godname attributed to Geburah (GBVRH in hebrew), the GD uses ALHIM GBR (strong gods) in hebrew.
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I don't remember heh, sorry! Most likely something Solomonic related...they all blend together after a while. (The complete book where in all things are revealed and the spirits of every dimension will bow down and give the operator great treasures and knowledge, and of the powerful seals of the ancient bla bla yatta yatta yatta yatta etc...ya know?)
Its purpose is to, not unlike most other weapons of this sort, basically instill fear in the spirit. Beyond that I can only assume that it channels energy from the divine to defend the operator. I am sorry I do not know much about it. I hope to learn about it more and more as I use it and make it. My only statement is that its purpose is to defend the operator in case of emergancy or faliure of previous defenses.
I don't remember heh, sorry! Most likely something Solomonic related...they all blend together after a while. (The complete book where in all things are revealed and the spirits of every dimension will bow down and give the operator great treasures and knowledge, and of the powerful seals of the ancient bla bla yatta yatta yatta yatta etc...ya know?)
Its purpose is to, not unlike most other weapons of this sort, basically instill fear in the spirit. Beyond that I can only assume that it channels energy from the divine to defend the operator. I am sorry I do not know much about it. I hope to learn about it more and more as I use it and make it. My only statement is that its purpose is to defend the operator in case of emergancy or faliure of previous defenses.
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Original post: Watcher
Yeah I know what you mean about them running together at times. They are all based around the same principles really. Well, Geburah is probably the most solid choice to build around. The grimoires were really big on kaballah so there would be no conflict. one of Geburahs names is Pachad (PChD), meaning fear. What was on it exactly? I think I will write GBVRH, PChD, and ALHIM GBR in rock hebrew. Make it look nice and archaic! I just love new toys! If last second protection is what you want maybe a scroll type talisman, like you can buy from the christian stores or whatever. you know where you take out the verse and add whatever. I generally have a something of the sort, or a conjure/mojo bag.
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Yeah I know what you mean about them running together at times. They are all based around the same principles really. Well, Geburah is probably the most solid choice to build around. The grimoires were really big on kaballah so there would be no conflict. one of Geburahs names is Pachad (PChD), meaning fear. What was on it exactly? I think I will write GBVRH, PChD, and ALHIM GBR in rock hebrew. Make it look nice and archaic! I just love new toys! If last second protection is what you want maybe a scroll type talisman, like you can buy from the christian stores or whatever. you know where you take out the verse and add whatever. I generally have a something of the sort, or a conjure/mojo bag.
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Original post: Overflowed_Buffer
[QUOTE=Watcher] one of Geburahs names is Pachad (PChD), meaning fear. What was on it exactly? I think I will write GBVRH, PChD, and ALHIM GBR in rock hebrew. Make it look nice and archaic! I just love new toys!
The Watcher[/QUOTE]...Huh? I got lost at "I think I will write." You will write that where and why now? Did you mean "I think I would write?" If so, what is rock hebrew? I must sound like a moron.
Oh, and what do you mean "scroll type?"
[QUOTE=Watcher] one of Geburahs names is Pachad (PChD), meaning fear. What was on it exactly? I think I will write GBVRH, PChD, and ALHIM GBR in rock hebrew. Make it look nice and archaic! I just love new toys!
The Watcher[/QUOTE]...Huh? I got lost at "I think I will write." You will write that where and why now? Did you mean "I think I would write?" If so, what is rock hebrew? I must sound like a moron.
Oh, and what do you mean "scroll type?"
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Original post: Overflowed_Buffer
[QUOTE=Watcher] one of Geburahs names is Pachad (PChD), meaning fear. What was on it exactly? I think I will write GBVRH, PChD, and ALHIM GBR in rock hebrew. Make it look nice and archaic! I just love new toys!
The Watcher[/QUOTE]
...Huh? I got lost at "I think I will write." You will write that where and why now? Did you mean "I think I would write?" If so, what is rock hebrew? I must sound like a moron.
Oh, and what do you mean "scroll type?"
[QUOTE=Watcher] one of Geburahs names is Pachad (PChD), meaning fear. What was on it exactly? I think I will write GBVRH, PChD, and ALHIM GBR in rock hebrew. Make it look nice and archaic! I just love new toys!
The Watcher[/QUOTE]
...Huh? I got lost at "I think I will write." You will write that where and why now? Did you mean "I think I would write?" If so, what is rock hebrew? I must sound like a moron.
Oh, and what do you mean "scroll type?"
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Original post: Watcher
oops I meant I think I will make one and write. little sleepy here. I just thought it would be a nice to test out a new tool. I meant I would write those words in rock hebrew. There they are transliterated now. rock hebrew is the oldest form of the hebrew alphabet after it evolved from the phoenician alphabet. It is very rune-like and even my meager carving skills couldn't mess it up. In some christian stores they have these verses on a little scroll that they put in a little metal cylinder with a string. I am sorry I can't be more specific, My memory waxs between excellent and "you say they call this a fork?":b.
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oops I meant I think I will make one and write. little sleepy here. I just thought it would be a nice to test out a new tool. I meant I would write those words in rock hebrew. There they are transliterated now. rock hebrew is the oldest form of the hebrew alphabet after it evolved from the phoenician alphabet. It is very rune-like and even my meager carving skills couldn't mess it up. In some christian stores they have these verses on a little scroll that they put in a little metal cylinder with a string. I am sorry I can't be more specific, My memory waxs between excellent and "you say they call this a fork?":b.
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Original post: Overflowed_Buffer
Time to order this scroll thing online:). I do hope you try this out, I think it will be very nice to have around. I am always looking for ways to increase my power over the beings (assuming I have some in the first place eh?).
I still need to know what to put on the wand lol.
Time to order this scroll thing online:). I do hope you try this out, I think it will be very nice to have around. I am always looking for ways to increase my power over the beings (assuming I have some in the first place eh?).
I still need to know what to put on the wand lol.
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Original post: fiat_lux_777
[QUOTE=Overflowed_Buffer] Beyond that I can only assume that it channels energy from the divine to defend the operator. [/QUOTE]
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It is important to remember that the tool is simply an inanimate object. It has no power in and of itself (although if kept properly, they will obviously hold the residue of their consecration and useage). The "magick" comes from the association of the tool with concepts, subtly implanted in the subconscious during the crafting and consecration of the tool. Therefore when I pick up my fire wand, my mind is automatically tuned into associated feelings, thoughts, visuals, sounds etc by virtue of the meditation and time put into making the tool and consecrating it.
With this in mind, it would seem that the most efficient engravings to place upon your tools are those which evoke feelings akin to the use of the tool. For instance, whilst Pachad may do the trick for me, Djinn may be more appropriate for you.....
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[QUOTE=Overflowed_Buffer] Beyond that I can only assume that it channels energy from the divine to defend the operator. [/QUOTE]
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It is important to remember that the tool is simply an inanimate object. It has no power in and of itself (although if kept properly, they will obviously hold the residue of their consecration and useage). The "magick" comes from the association of the tool with concepts, subtly implanted in the subconscious during the crafting and consecration of the tool. Therefore when I pick up my fire wand, my mind is automatically tuned into associated feelings, thoughts, visuals, sounds etc by virtue of the meditation and time put into making the tool and consecrating it.
With this in mind, it would seem that the most efficient engravings to place upon your tools are those which evoke feelings akin to the use of the tool. For instance, whilst Pachad may do the trick for me, Djinn may be more appropriate for you.....
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Original post: palindroem
What rock hebrew again . . . ?
Under the NW Semitic branch of the Proto-Semitic language family, are a number of languages that do include Phoenician and Hebrew (and Aramaic) . . . but I've never heard of "Rock" hebrew.
Can you please point me to a reference for this language?
thanks
What rock hebrew again . . . ?
Under the NW Semitic branch of the Proto-Semitic language family, are a number of languages that do include Phoenician and Hebrew (and Aramaic) . . . but I've never heard of "Rock" hebrew.
Can you please point me to a reference for this language?
thanks
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It is the oldest orthography for the hebrew alphabet known. The only reference I have around is in David Allen Hulse's The Western Mysteries. It was inscribed into a rock in 1000BCE. hence its name, and yes, really 1000 I did'nt make up the number. In my defense who doesn't love new toys! I love you plush Chtulu doll. I would say that since the tool is an actual thing it does recieve imprints of energy during the crafting and consecration by your ceremony. if you associate the rock with softness and someone throws it at you it is not a pillow. But the kind of imprint is defined by the operators intention. Average and unknowledgable people can feel the energy from a well consecrated tool and tell you what it feels like to them. But hopefully they won't cheat and say fire because it's painted red. But then again this could all lead to some deep philosophical converse so I'll shut up.
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It is the oldest orthography for the hebrew alphabet known. The only reference I have around is in David Allen Hulse's The Western Mysteries. It was inscribed into a rock in 1000BCE. hence its name, and yes, really 1000 I did'nt make up the number. In my defense who doesn't love new toys! I love you plush Chtulu doll. I would say that since the tool is an actual thing it does recieve imprints of energy during the crafting and consecration by your ceremony. if you associate the rock with softness and someone throws it at you it is not a pillow. But the kind of imprint is defined by the operators intention. Average and unknowledgable people can feel the energy from a well consecrated tool and tell you what it feels like to them. But hopefully they won't cheat and say fire because it's painted red. But then again this could all lead to some deep philosophical converse so I'll shut up.
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Original post: Overflowed_Buffer
I agree with you Watcher.
While a tool is just a piece of matter used to get the magician in the correct mindset, it is still having energy rubbed off onto it during rituals and consecration.
Just my opinion.
I agree with you Watcher.
While a tool is just a piece of matter used to get the magician in the correct mindset, it is still having energy rubbed off onto it during rituals and consecration.
Just my opinion.
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I would not, personally, use a wand for demonic evocation made of willow.
There are a lot of limbs found after storms in public parks or along the curb on waste pickup day in the city.
I would not, personally, use a wand for demonic evocation made of willow.
There are a lot of limbs found after storms in public parks or along the curb on waste pickup day in the city.
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I would not evoke a demon at this stage of my abilities, but thanks for the heads up.
By the way, I live on 30 acres, 27 of which are pure forest with white oaks, silver oaks, maples, willows, elder, you name it. If needed, I could go out and find a different wood. What would you suggest?
I would not evoke a demon at this stage of my abilities, but thanks for the heads up.
By the way, I live on 30 acres, 27 of which are pure forest with white oaks, silver oaks, maples, willows, elder, you name it. If needed, I could go out and find a different wood. What would you suggest?
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Original post: LadyHydralisk
Well different souls resonate with different trees. I would suggest a male tree (both in properties and physical nature) that rules out elder, willow any watery trees. Oak, is of course the classical male tree and an excellent choice. If I had my pick of wands, which, I don't, I would use sequoia or coconut palm heartwood.
If you're not summoning abyssal creatures, though, willow is fine, whereas devil's claw or blackberry may be inappropriate.
you can make anything work, though.
Well different souls resonate with different trees. I would suggest a male tree (both in properties and physical nature) that rules out elder, willow any watery trees. Oak, is of course the classical male tree and an excellent choice. If I had my pick of wands, which, I don't, I would use sequoia or coconut palm heartwood.
If you're not summoning abyssal creatures, though, willow is fine, whereas devil's claw or blackberry may be inappropriate.
you can make anything work, though.
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Interesting, thank you.
Interesting, thank you.
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Original post: Astral Alien
[QUOTE=Overflowed_Buffer]Its purpose is to, not unlike most other weapons of this sort, basically instill fear in the spirit.[/QUOTE]Pardon me for my lack of knowledge...
May I suggest that you could be refering to the "Blasting Rod"?
I remember having a book by A.E. Waite named "Book of Black magick", seemingly a compilation of some Grimoires such as the Grands Grimoire,Goetia and such.. One of them mentions a blasting rod, I couldn't seem to find the correct book in the CM library. Besides that I don't have much to offer on my part, a bit under experienced..you know..
[QUOTE=Overflowed_Buffer]Its purpose is to, not unlike most other weapons of this sort, basically instill fear in the spirit.[/QUOTE]Pardon me for my lack of knowledge...
May I suggest that you could be refering to the "Blasting Rod"?
I remember having a book by A.E. Waite named "Book of Black magick", seemingly a compilation of some Grimoires such as the Grands Grimoire,Goetia and such.. One of them mentions a blasting rod, I couldn't seem to find the correct book in the CM library. Besides that I don't have much to offer on my part, a bit under experienced..you know..
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Astral Alien: That is my most cherished book in my library. And perhaps that is what I am thinking of, I will run a search in my pdf version of the book.
Astral Alien: That is my most cherished book in my library. And perhaps that is what I am thinking of, I will run a search in my pdf version of the book.
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Yes, blasting rod would be an example of what I am thinking of. Thank you very much.
Yes, blasting rod would be an example of what I am thinking of. Thank you very much.
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Original post: Astral Alien
There is a pdf version?
One more thing, the blasting rod seemed to be used to punish disobedient spirits also, so I guess it can pretty well be used to threaten or instill fear into spirits as well.
You're welcomed...That was my favourite book too, at one time.
There is a pdf version?
One more thing, the blasting rod seemed to be used to punish disobedient spirits also, so I guess it can pretty well be used to threaten or instill fear into spirits as well.
You're welcomed...That was my favourite book too, at one time.
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The pdf version is called Ceremonial Magic, just FYI.
The pdf version is called Ceremonial Magic, just FYI.