Original post: LazarusIsrafel
a few months ago i tried magic mushrooms and dxm together.... not a good idea... it was a great experience, but in the end i ended up with really bad HPPD... my floor is melting :|.
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And?
And?
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Original post: LazarusIsrafel
[QUOTE=Mmothra]And?[/QUOTE]just warning everyone that dxm and mushrooms should not be used together.
It changed my perception completely, i don't remember what reality used to be like.
[QUOTE=Mmothra]And?[/QUOTE]just warning everyone that dxm and mushrooms should not be used together.
It changed my perception completely, i don't remember what reality used to be like.
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Original post: kinkar
I hear ya
DXM alone can do that
Yikes
was it worth the trip? = )
I hear ya
DXM alone can do that
Yikes
was it worth the trip? = )
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Original post: LazarusIsrafel
[QUOTE=kinkar]I hear ya
DXM alone can do that
Yikes
was it worth the trip? = )[/QUOTE]i've had better trips alone with just mushrooms... so no, not really. :/.
just hoping this isn't completely permanent.
[QUOTE=kinkar]I hear ya
DXM alone can do that
Yikes
was it worth the trip? = )[/QUOTE]i've had better trips alone with just mushrooms... so no, not really. :/.
just hoping this isn't completely permanent.
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Original post: LSVPA
[QUOTE=LazarusIsrafel]a few months ago i tried magic mushrooms and dxm together.... not a good idea... it was a great experience, but in the end i ended up with really bad HPPD... my floor is melting :|.[/QUOTE]
You're 15 years old. Welcome to reality. There is no undo button. If you are serious enough about wanting to do something about this, do some research on atypical antipsychotics, and talk to your family doctor about it.
[QUOTE=LazarusIsrafel]a few months ago i tried magic mushrooms and dxm together.... not a good idea... it was a great experience, but in the end i ended up with really bad HPPD... my floor is melting :|.[/QUOTE]
You're 15 years old. Welcome to reality. There is no undo button. If you are serious enough about wanting to do something about this, do some research on atypical antipsychotics, and talk to your family doctor about it.
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Original post: LazarusIsrafel
[QUOTE=LSVPA]You're 15 years old. Welcome to reality. There is no undo button. If you are serious enough about wanting to do something about this, do some research on atypical antipsychotics, and talk to your family doctor about it.[/QUOTE]
thanks. i'll look into that.
yay, someone else from calgary
[QUOTE=LSVPA]You're 15 years old. Welcome to reality. There is no undo button. If you are serious enough about wanting to do something about this, do some research on atypical antipsychotics, and talk to your family doctor about it.[/QUOTE]
thanks. i'll look into that.
yay, someone else from calgary
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Original post: 93Pryme
I myself have been wanting to get into the psychedelic workings because of the chance to induce alternative spaces and altered mindstates. I think of them more as mind-expanding and less fun-to-watch-things-change. I live in SC and I think I might go try to find a cow field and try to find some psylocibin. Also I was wondering:
1) Did you have a sitter? I know it'd be hard because I know my parents wouldn't sit for me, at this age or any.
2) What is DXM? I know what DMT is, but is DXM also called Robo-trippin with Robitussin? I mean, I'd like to try it, but I've heard Robotussin has some bad side affects next to the horrible taste
I myself have been wanting to get into the psychedelic workings because of the chance to induce alternative spaces and altered mindstates. I think of them more as mind-expanding and less fun-to-watch-things-change. I live in SC and I think I might go try to find a cow field and try to find some psylocibin. Also I was wondering:
1) Did you have a sitter? I know it'd be hard because I know my parents wouldn't sit for me, at this age or any.
2) What is DXM? I know what DMT is, but is DXM also called Robo-trippin with Robitussin? I mean, I'd like to try it, but I've heard Robotussin has some bad side affects next to the horrible taste
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Original post: LazarusIsrafel
[QUOTE=93Pryme]
1) Did you have a sitter? I know it'd be hard because I know my parents wouldn't sit for me, at this age or any.[/QUOTE]on that day, i didn't have a sitter no.
[QUOTE=93Pryme]2) What is DXM? I know what DMT is, but is DXM also called Robo-trippin with Robitussin? I mean, I'd like to try it, but I've heard Robotussin has some bad side affects next to the horrible taste[/QUOTE]yup, thats what it is.
side effects = HPPD = BAD.
my carpet is flowing like water right now, thanks to HPPD.
[QUOTE=93Pryme]
1) Did you have a sitter? I know it'd be hard because I know my parents wouldn't sit for me, at this age or any.[/QUOTE]on that day, i didn't have a sitter no.
[QUOTE=93Pryme]2) What is DXM? I know what DMT is, but is DXM also called Robo-trippin with Robitussin? I mean, I'd like to try it, but I've heard Robotussin has some bad side affects next to the horrible taste
[/QUOTE]yup, thats what it is. side effects = HPPD = BAD.
my carpet is flowing like water right now, thanks to HPPD.
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Original post: 93Pryme
Dunno if this is an extremely newbish question...I hope not...but what is HPPD? And when you say on that day, do you mean that you have these weird "carpet flowing like water" effects for more then one day or two? Eep..thats scary to think.
Dunno if this is an extremely newbish question...I hope not...but what is HPPD? And when you say on that day, do you mean that you have these weird "carpet flowing like water" effects for more then one day or two? Eep..thats scary to think.
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Original post: LSVPA
[QUOTE=93Pryme]Dunno if this is an extremely newbish question...I hope not...but what is HPPD? And when you say on that day, do you mean that you have these weird "carpet flowing like water" effects for more then one day or two? Eep..thats scary to think.[/QUOTE]
The great oracle known as Google can answer that question.
[QUOTE=93Pryme]Dunno if this is an extremely newbish question...I hope not...but what is HPPD? And when you say on that day, do you mean that you have these weird "carpet flowing like water" effects for more then one day or two? Eep..thats scary to think.[/QUOTE]
The great oracle known as Google can answer that question.
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Original post: LazarusIsrafel
[QUOTE=93Pryme]Dunno if this is an extremely newbish question...I hope not...but what is HPPD? And when you say on that day, do you mean that you have these weird "carpet flowing like water" effects for more then one day or two? Eep..thats scary to think.[/QUOTE]
HPPD (Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder) is a permanent/semi-permanent disorder. You still feel the visual affects of a drug way after you used them.... So basically. the carpet could be flowing like water for many more years... ><.
[QUOTE=93Pryme]Dunno if this is an extremely newbish question...I hope not...but what is HPPD? And when you say on that day, do you mean that you have these weird "carpet flowing like water" effects for more then one day or two? Eep..thats scary to think.[/QUOTE]
HPPD (Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder) is a permanent/semi-permanent disorder. You still feel the visual affects of a drug way after you used them.... So basically. the carpet could be flowing like water for many more years... ><.
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Original post: babyalien
Hppd bad points for me:
Can't meditate well as vision distorts and see colours, halos.
Sometimes feel my body wanting to fall off my bed when meditating.
Hppd good points:
Infinite trip.
Can see colourful pretty glowing balls usually at night.
Can control hppd, i.e. intensify colours, movements, see energy etc.
It's not so bad!
Hppd bad points for me:
Can't meditate well as vision distorts and see colours, halos.
Sometimes feel my body wanting to fall off my bed when meditating.
Hppd good points:
Infinite trip.
Can see colourful pretty glowing balls usually at night.
Can control hppd, i.e. intensify colours, movements, see energy etc.
It's not so bad!
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Original post: LazarusIsrafel
[QUOTE=babyalien]Hppd bad points for me:
Can't meditate well as vision distorts and see colours, halos.
Sometimes feel my body wanting to fall off my bed when meditating.
Hppd good points:
Infinite trip.
Can see colourful pretty glowing balls usually at night.
Can control hppd, i.e. intensify colours, movements, see energy etc.
It's not so bad![/QUOTE]
I don't like it, cause its really annoying.
. I wish I could see it the way you do .
[QUOTE=babyalien]Hppd bad points for me:
Can't meditate well as vision distorts and see colours, halos.
Sometimes feel my body wanting to fall off my bed when meditating.
Hppd good points:
Infinite trip.
Can see colourful pretty glowing balls usually at night.
Can control hppd, i.e. intensify colours, movements, see energy etc.
It's not so bad![/QUOTE]
I don't like it, cause its really annoying.
. I wish I could see it the way you do .-
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Original post: Channel Null
HPPD appears to a be a genetic condition whose expression can be triggered by hallucinogen use; it appears most commonly in white males. Looking at people's descriptions of events that precipitate HPPD, it also appears to be caused by another genetic disorder, STUPIDITY.
Don't mix your chemicals unless you know very fucking well what you are doing. Chosing to use psychedelic substances implies that one has taken responsiblity for one's own being, which implies taking responsiblity for one's actions and all their repurcussions. This includes being informed. E.g.: "Mushrooms"? you mean Psilocybin, right? Wait, do you mean Amanita muscaria, known to early Jewish and Christian death cults as "The Destroying Angel," as in, "destroys liver function and results in massive hallucination followed by death?"
One night I took ten gram of Syrian Rue, having consulted dosing suggestions, and for a while during the visual portion of the trip, I realized how much the remainder of my life would suck if the lights all danced like that all the time, or if every thing that moved across my vision left a trail, for my next fifty years. Fortunately, this dissipated.
"You're 15 years old. Welcome to reality. There is no undo button." I am revolted at fifteen year olds taking hallucinogens: too many kids have gone and freaked out their parents and made their lives into bad afterschool specials. Partially as a result, I, who am willing to accept that only I should pay for my mistakes, cannot obtain the entheogens I desire without risking arrest. I am also old enough so that if I was found dead in a room with some psychoactives, no one would give a shit. If I were younger, we would return to the after-school special pitfall. I was a kid once, and I was stupid. But you should listen to people who are older when they offer honest advice. We're better at, like, stuff, 'coz we got more, like, experience, dude.
If I were to engage in casual sex without contraception, I would feel deep regret at causing an unitentional pregnancy. I cannot tell how I would act, but I would find myself either with another mouth to feed or holding a receipt and several hundred dollars worth of guilt. I would not, however, be surprised with either outcome; in fact, I would consider it immorality to be surprised, and the height of immorality to impose my guilt, anger, and economic burden on anyone else but myself.
I reiterate: when you use psychedelics, you have made an implicit assumption, and an explicit magickal-political statement, that you control your body, your brain, and even something so intimate but so fought-over as your mental processes, whether you realize this declaration at the time or not. And having assumed that role, you must not be surprised by the perils you face. A man who hunts tigers cannot be shocked to find himself being eaten.
HPPD appears to a be a genetic condition whose expression can be triggered by hallucinogen use; it appears most commonly in white males. Looking at people's descriptions of events that precipitate HPPD, it also appears to be caused by another genetic disorder, STUPIDITY.
Don't mix your chemicals unless you know very fucking well what you are doing. Chosing to use psychedelic substances implies that one has taken responsiblity for one's own being, which implies taking responsiblity for one's actions and all their repurcussions. This includes being informed. E.g.: "Mushrooms"? you mean Psilocybin, right? Wait, do you mean Amanita muscaria, known to early Jewish and Christian death cults as "The Destroying Angel," as in, "destroys liver function and results in massive hallucination followed by death?"
One night I took ten gram of Syrian Rue, having consulted dosing suggestions, and for a while during the visual portion of the trip, I realized how much the remainder of my life would suck if the lights all danced like that all the time, or if every thing that moved across my vision left a trail, for my next fifty years. Fortunately, this dissipated.
"You're 15 years old. Welcome to reality. There is no undo button." I am revolted at fifteen year olds taking hallucinogens: too many kids have gone and freaked out their parents and made their lives into bad afterschool specials. Partially as a result, I, who am willing to accept that only I should pay for my mistakes, cannot obtain the entheogens I desire without risking arrest. I am also old enough so that if I was found dead in a room with some psychoactives, no one would give a shit. If I were younger, we would return to the after-school special pitfall. I was a kid once, and I was stupid. But you should listen to people who are older when they offer honest advice. We're better at, like, stuff, 'coz we got more, like, experience, dude.
If I were to engage in casual sex without contraception, I would feel deep regret at causing an unitentional pregnancy. I cannot tell how I would act, but I would find myself either with another mouth to feed or holding a receipt and several hundred dollars worth of guilt. I would not, however, be surprised with either outcome; in fact, I would consider it immorality to be surprised, and the height of immorality to impose my guilt, anger, and economic burden on anyone else but myself.
I reiterate: when you use psychedelics, you have made an implicit assumption, and an explicit magickal-political statement, that you control your body, your brain, and even something so intimate but so fought-over as your mental processes, whether you realize this declaration at the time or not. And having assumed that role, you must not be surprised by the perils you face. A man who hunts tigers cannot be shocked to find himself being eaten.
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Original post: LSVPA
[QUOTE=Channel Null]
A man who hunts tigers cannot be shocked to find himself being eaten.
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When one asks the mushroom about what is going on, it often replies: I am consuming you. Its not so much (often times) that we take the substance, but that the substances takes us, and uses our operating system in order to express a part of itself. Thoughts often hide the light, and that light may illuminate the thoughts, which are the visible effects of the substance. Its a show to entertain the mind, so that the use of the operating system doesnt interfere with the important matters that are going on behind the scenes.
Stupid metaphors abound, there is a reason why they dont allow unexperienced people jump out of aeroplanes without parachutes. Or let children own guns. But experience is the best teacher, and one who losses a leg due to being in a drunk-driving incident will probably never drive again, as the lesson is learnt too late. ANy substance that has the possibility for use, has, first of all, the potential for abuse. Legitimate use is for the few, whereas abuse is for the many. But what is the natural course of action for him who has leanrt the hard way? Ignoring a broken hand will not make it go away, but fuse it in its deformity. To set things right often takes not only long term pain for the perceived short term gain, but also the responsibility to go endure that which one has innitiated, regardless of the severity.
[QUOTE=Channel Null]
A man who hunts tigers cannot be shocked to find himself being eaten.
[/QUOTE]
When one asks the mushroom about what is going on, it often replies: I am consuming you. Its not so much (often times) that we take the substance, but that the substances takes us, and uses our operating system in order to express a part of itself. Thoughts often hide the light, and that light may illuminate the thoughts, which are the visible effects of the substance. Its a show to entertain the mind, so that the use of the operating system doesnt interfere with the important matters that are going on behind the scenes.
Stupid metaphors abound, there is a reason why they dont allow unexperienced people jump out of aeroplanes without parachutes. Or let children own guns. But experience is the best teacher, and one who losses a leg due to being in a drunk-driving incident will probably never drive again, as the lesson is learnt too late. ANy substance that has the possibility for use, has, first of all, the potential for abuse. Legitimate use is for the few, whereas abuse is for the many. But what is the natural course of action for him who has leanrt the hard way? Ignoring a broken hand will not make it go away, but fuse it in its deformity. To set things right often takes not only long term pain for the perceived short term gain, but also the responsibility to go endure that which one has innitiated, regardless of the severity.
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Original post: Channel Null
Good call, LSVPA. I tend to get a little frustrated with rank abuse but am going to have to accept it as inevitable. Personally, I need experience to validate what others believe on faith and cultural transmission alone, which often leads to me coming close to that same stupid fucking edge, and more often than not, I tend to find that I probably just should have conformed and I'd be no worse off; I used to have, and obviously it occasionally pops back up, a tendency to criticize this experiential-experimental trait in others. I happen to be fond of our hallucinogenic friends, and have trouble explaining this to my closer friends, let alone, e.g., my supervisor. "You're in the real world now." "Grow up." "I'm so drunk." "Why meditate when you can watch TV?" Somehow, spending six hours wasted and the next fifteen in bed dry heaving and watching TV is okay, but spend four hours under the influence of ayahuasca, and you've crossed the line... blah blah blah. It's just residual anger and feelings of impotence on my part, and my inablity to accept the authority of anyone lacking "religious" or meaningful psychedelic experience, mostly.
I'm in total concordance on the "responsibility to go endure...what one has initiated."
On the other hand, I also want to temper my comments by mentioning that HPPD appears to be a genetic disorder amoung white males that can come to expression through use of hallucinogens or extended boughts of endogenous psychosis. In many ways, it's not your fault. At the same time, most powerful compounds have a long "reintegration" period to start with. DXM's is certainly severe--although its potency also makes it desirable--e.g. I've never been able to recover to function within less than a day after; the hydrogen bromide, with which it is frequently bonded, is fairly toxic in and of itself.
At the same time, please, kids, use the internet and do your homework before you do the drugs. Take an hour away from TRL and Law and Order and peruse Erowid. Use anonymizer.com if you're worried about mom and dad snooping... Not many things that can cause HPPD mixes well with a party, so I think that your friends or pusher will understand if you wait to use it.
Good call, LSVPA. I tend to get a little frustrated with rank abuse but am going to have to accept it as inevitable. Personally, I need experience to validate what others believe on faith and cultural transmission alone, which often leads to me coming close to that same stupid fucking edge, and more often than not, I tend to find that I probably just should have conformed and I'd be no worse off; I used to have, and obviously it occasionally pops back up, a tendency to criticize this experiential-experimental trait in others. I happen to be fond of our hallucinogenic friends, and have trouble explaining this to my closer friends, let alone, e.g., my supervisor. "You're in the real world now." "Grow up." "I'm so drunk." "Why meditate when you can watch TV?" Somehow, spending six hours wasted and the next fifteen in bed dry heaving and watching TV is okay, but spend four hours under the influence of ayahuasca, and you've crossed the line... blah blah blah. It's just residual anger and feelings of impotence on my part, and my inablity to accept the authority of anyone lacking "religious" or meaningful psychedelic experience, mostly.
I'm in total concordance on the "responsibility to go endure...what one has initiated."
On the other hand, I also want to temper my comments by mentioning that HPPD appears to be a genetic disorder amoung white males that can come to expression through use of hallucinogens or extended boughts of endogenous psychosis. In many ways, it's not your fault. At the same time, most powerful compounds have a long "reintegration" period to start with. DXM's is certainly severe--although its potency also makes it desirable--e.g. I've never been able to recover to function within less than a day after; the hydrogen bromide, with which it is frequently bonded, is fairly toxic in and of itself.
At the same time, please, kids, use the internet and do your homework before you do the drugs. Take an hour away from TRL and Law and Order and peruse Erowid. Use anonymizer.com if you're worried about mom and dad snooping... Not many things that can cause HPPD mixes well with a party, so I think that your friends or pusher will understand if you wait to use it.