Original post: Baphmetis
I've been thining about this alot recently. Have any of you ever attempted to improve your health through the use of psionic exercises?
What got me thinking about this is the downturn in my health recently - my digestive system has taken a turn for the worse, and while I'm experimenting with normal means to put this right, I'm thinking about what I could do on a not-so-mundane level. I guess what got me thinking about this was when I started thinking about my gut in elemental terms, and how imbalanced it's become.
The only answer I could think of was chakras, but does anyone have any other suggestions in terms of energy manipulation, healing, etc, as I'm fairly new to this area.
And I'm not just posting this for suggestions about my personal condition - I would like it if someone could give me a pointer towards useful resources for energy manipulation with a focus on healing.
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Original post: Ceriel Nosforit
Chi Kung. Ancient Chinese medical practice. Related to Tai Chi, and indirectly to Kung Fu. Chi Kung is also related to the Hindi Chakra-system.
I'd recommend "tactile imagining" instead of visual imagining, as this seems to be more powerful. Most exercises can easily be modified for this.
There are few online resources for Chi King (at least last I checked), but some bookstores have books on the subject. The Chinese tradition perscribes for a teacher, and you might be in luck:
http://www.taichifinder.co.uk/geo2.php?yourpostcode=PL4
Chi Kung. Ancient Chinese medical practice. Related to Tai Chi, and indirectly to Kung Fu. Chi Kung is also related to the Hindi Chakra-system.
I'd recommend "tactile imagining" instead of visual imagining, as this seems to be more powerful. Most exercises can easily be modified for this.
There are few online resources for Chi King (at least last I checked), but some bookstores have books on the subject. The Chinese tradition perscribes for a teacher, and you might be in luck:
http://www.taichifinder.co.uk/geo2.php?yourpostcode=PL4
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Original post: shodin
maybe try it psionic, give your hands a load of energy... till they feel sparky and warm, then move them around the area you wish to alter the energy flow.
maybe try it psionic, give your hands a load of energy... till they feel sparky and warm, then move them around the area you wish to alter the energy flow.
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Original post: Will B. Dunn
Try http://www.sharereiki.org to learn about this Japanese energy healing method, request healing, or become attuned as a healer yourself (they reject the traditionalist notion of paying a "master" to do this, which is good for us since attunements generally cost hundreds or thousands of dollars U.S.). Once attuned you can heal yourself and others as well as "bless" people or objects. I haven't tried it yet myself, but I probably will once I return from vacation.
Try http://www.sharereiki.org to learn about this Japanese energy healing method, request healing, or become attuned as a healer yourself (they reject the traditionalist notion of paying a "master" to do this, which is good for us since attunements generally cost hundreds or thousands of dollars U.S.). Once attuned you can heal yourself and others as well as "bless" people or objects. I haven't tried it yet myself, but I probably will once I return from vacation.
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Original post: ChaosTech
Create a construct to do it?
Create a construct to do it?
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Original post: Chaos Shaman
I would suggest Shiatsu, as a means of restoring energy balance and the health of the organs.
I would suggest Shiatsu, as a means of restoring energy balance and the health of the organs.
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Original post: Baphmetis
Ceriel - actually I used to practice Chi Quong myself not that long ago. I should have thought about that - thanks for the suggestion.
Will B dunn - thanks for the link, I'll look into it some more later.
ChaosTech - I did actually think about creating an element-based thought-form for the job. A kind of fire elemtental or salamander if you like. It's funtion would be to live in my intestines and stimulate the production of digestive enzymes. But I posted here for answers relating to energy manipulation. Thanks for the suggestion btw.
Chaos Shaman - Shiatsu? I am not familiar with this at all. Do you know of any web links or books that are good starting points?
Thanks the input everyone!
Ceriel - actually I used to practice Chi Quong myself not that long ago. I should have thought about that - thanks for the suggestion.
Will B dunn - thanks for the link, I'll look into it some more later.
ChaosTech - I did actually think about creating an element-based thought-form for the job. A kind of fire elemtental or salamander if you like. It's funtion would be to live in my intestines and stimulate the production of digestive enzymes. But I posted here for answers relating to energy manipulation. Thanks for the suggestion btw.
Chaos Shaman - Shiatsu? I am not familiar with this at all. Do you know of any web links or books that are good starting points?
Thanks the input everyone!
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Original post: Jenfucius
Have you try seeing a herbalist or homeopath? Maybe it might help with your problem?
Have you try seeing a herbalist or homeopath? Maybe it might help with your problem?
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Original post: Will B. Dunn
Shiatsu is a Japanese form of deep-tissue massage.
Shiatsu is a Japanese form of deep-tissue massage.
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Original post: Baphmetis
[QUOTE=Jenfucius]Have you try seeing a herbalist or homeopath? Maybe it might help with your problem?[/QUOTE]
My health has inspired me with a new interest in herbalism, but I didn't want to write about it here, with this forum concerned only with 'psionics', etc.
[QUOTE=Jenfucius]Have you try seeing a herbalist or homeopath? Maybe it might help with your problem?[/QUOTE]
My health has inspired me with a new interest in herbalism, but I didn't want to write about it here, with this forum concerned only with 'psionics', etc.
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Original post: Baphmetis
[QUOTE=Jenfucius]Have you try seeing a herbalist or homeopath? Maybe it might help with your problem?[/QUOTE]
My health problem has inspired me with a new interest in herbalism, but I didn;t want to post about here, on a psionics forum.
[QUOTE=Jenfucius]Have you try seeing a herbalist or homeopath? Maybe it might help with your problem?[/QUOTE]
My health problem has inspired me with a new interest in herbalism, but I didn;t want to post about here, on a psionics forum.
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Original post: Spaces
"...I'm thinking about what I could do on a not-so-mundane level."___Baphmetis
Which changes the situation considerably, does it not?
For starters, you would have to see how effective your own connections are to the 'not-so-mundane'. One of the many questions would be how efficacious would the endeavor at health be if said connections had to be in place as preventive rather than remedial elements. With the former it can be seen that there is a time element involved wherein a platform of sorts has been established whilst the latter assumes that efficacy is available at a moments notice simply because of need. A simple analogy is that of drawing from a savings account as opposed to asking for a loan.
If the instance is one of immediate results while not having previously invested in those mechanisms which facilitate such then one of the possible alternate avenues is how much you are able in your present condition to accept trance modes and of course their maintenance in the countering of the denser in-effect-propositions of the material organs of your body.
Lest we forget, each proposition has its own rate of process and for the vessel, you, it will be a competition as to which will prevail and remedy the situation.
S p a c e s
"...I'm thinking about what I could do on a not-so-mundane level."___Baphmetis
Which changes the situation considerably, does it not?
For starters, you would have to see how effective your own connections are to the 'not-so-mundane'. One of the many questions would be how efficacious would the endeavor at health be if said connections had to be in place as preventive rather than remedial elements. With the former it can be seen that there is a time element involved wherein a platform of sorts has been established whilst the latter assumes that efficacy is available at a moments notice simply because of need. A simple analogy is that of drawing from a savings account as opposed to asking for a loan.
If the instance is one of immediate results while not having previously invested in those mechanisms which facilitate such then one of the possible alternate avenues is how much you are able in your present condition to accept trance modes and of course their maintenance in the countering of the denser in-effect-propositions of the material organs of your body.
Lest we forget, each proposition has its own rate of process and for the vessel, you, it will be a competition as to which will prevail and remedy the situation.
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Original post: Anathema_Oracle
I agree in a sense with Speces statement about the investment of effort or whatever word you'd like to use, perhaps 'Energy' in a working, but would probably add one more...knowledge.
Knowledge and energy are composite attractors of success in alot of observable things..ie: time and effort and knowledge can make things more productive, worthwhile..
But what this has to do with health related issues is...Well in my opinion health is a mechanistic field of inquiry..ie: physical, on one level, and on the other level, it may have some psyche or non-manifest elements to it..Chi perhaps?
So combining the two elements, as Baphomet has explicitly said he's done..ie: Got normative medical advice and now is interested in something more..etc, is excellent.
As for the advice about energies and shiatsu and the like, well, that's something for consideration, but going on deductive reasoning based on the facts, it's not something that has shown itself to be effective...but!
I did read somewhere around here..BBC health maybe...that meditation can help with IBS if that is the disorder you are suffering from, as links between anxiety and psychosomatic elements and physical complaints are common in said disease.
I don't subscribe to the notion that all parts are equal in the sense of mind/body needing key balance for healthy functioning, I think organs and body system(s) are independent mostly of the conscious mind, otherwise we'd collapse and die from the strain of trying to maintain a body so complex that not much of it has been replicated in the Labs.
(That's not to say that research laboratories are all that advanced...but anyhoo)
Anyway..just my interpretation.
I agree in a sense with Speces statement about the investment of effort or whatever word you'd like to use, perhaps 'Energy' in a working, but would probably add one more...knowledge.
Knowledge and energy are composite attractors of success in alot of observable things..ie: time and effort and knowledge can make things more productive, worthwhile..
But what this has to do with health related issues is...Well in my opinion health is a mechanistic field of inquiry..ie: physical, on one level, and on the other level, it may have some psyche or non-manifest elements to it..Chi perhaps?
So combining the two elements, as Baphomet has explicitly said he's done..ie: Got normative medical advice and now is interested in something more..etc, is excellent.
As for the advice about energies and shiatsu and the like, well, that's something for consideration, but going on deductive reasoning based on the facts, it's not something that has shown itself to be effective...but!
I did read somewhere around here..BBC health maybe...that meditation can help with IBS if that is the disorder you are suffering from, as links between anxiety and psychosomatic elements and physical complaints are common in said disease.
I don't subscribe to the notion that all parts are equal in the sense of mind/body needing key balance for healthy functioning, I think organs and body system(s) are independent mostly of the conscious mind, otherwise we'd collapse and die from the strain of trying to maintain a body so complex that not much of it has been replicated in the Labs.
(That's not to say that research laboratories are all that advanced...but anyhoo)
Anyway..just my interpretation.
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Original post: Baphmetis
Thanks for the replies.
"One of the many questions would be how efficacious would the endeavor at health be if said connections had to be in place as preventive rather than remedial elements."
Which is why I have been considering working with a chakra system, as I believe this can have an effect on overall health. Although I was also interested in other alternatives. The Chi Quong idea is looking quite good at the moment.
I'm not sure if it is IBS I've got right now (it does look like it though), but whatever it is, I could do without it.
And thanks for the link chaos shaman - I'll be perusing it some more later.
Thanks for the replies.
"One of the many questions would be how efficacious would the endeavor at health be if said connections had to be in place as preventive rather than remedial elements."
Which is why I have been considering working with a chakra system, as I believe this can have an effect on overall health. Although I was also interested in other alternatives. The Chi Quong idea is looking quite good at the moment.
I'm not sure if it is IBS I've got right now (it does look like it though), but whatever it is, I could do without it.
And thanks for the link chaos shaman - I'll be perusing it some more later.
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Original post: Jenfucius
Yoga is another occult method that can help with certain illneses.
I now believe theres a connection with ones emotions and physical health. They even done a study on depression and the immune system. And its turn out those who are depress alos have lower immunity and more suscpetible to cancer and other illneses. Even when one is depress all the time it can bring on the common cold alot easier. I knew someone who had a real anger problem that brought him a serious ulcer that need surgery. He learnt to stop getting upset at things and took alternative medicines and to the surprise of his doctor his health returned back to normal.
Learning not to be to be upset at things and being happy is something that could possible help everyones health. I think sometimes we forget to take things in srtive and smell the roses once in awhile.
Yoga is another occult method that can help with certain illneses.
I now believe theres a connection with ones emotions and physical health. They even done a study on depression and the immune system. And its turn out those who are depress alos have lower immunity and more suscpetible to cancer and other illneses. Even when one is depress all the time it can bring on the common cold alot easier. I knew someone who had a real anger problem that brought him a serious ulcer that need surgery. He learnt to stop getting upset at things and took alternative medicines and to the surprise of his doctor his health returned back to normal.
Learning not to be to be upset at things and being happy is something that could possible help everyones health. I think sometimes we forget to take things in srtive and smell the roses once in awhile.
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Original post: micdeath
"I've been thining about this alot recently. Have any of you ever attempted to improve your health through the use of psionic exercises?
What got me thinking about this is the downturn in my health recently - my digestive system has taken a turn for the worse, and while I'm experimenting with normal means to put this right, I'm thinking about what I could do on a not-so-mundane level. I guess what got me thinking about this was when I started thinking about my gut in elemental terms, and how imbalanced it's become.
The only answer I could think of was chakras, but does anyone have any other suggestions in terms of energy manipulation, healing, etc, as I'm fairly new to this area.
And I'm not just posting this for suggestions about my personal condition - I would like it if someone could give me a pointer towards useful resources for energy manipulation with a focus on healing."
I do not know if this has been mentioned, but i think you are thinking of BIOKENISIS, i have done this in the past and worked remarkably well. But there have been some side effects. anyway look into it.
"I've been thining about this alot recently. Have any of you ever attempted to improve your health through the use of psionic exercises?
What got me thinking about this is the downturn in my health recently - my digestive system has taken a turn for the worse, and while I'm experimenting with normal means to put this right, I'm thinking about what I could do on a not-so-mundane level. I guess what got me thinking about this was when I started thinking about my gut in elemental terms, and how imbalanced it's become.
The only answer I could think of was chakras, but does anyone have any other suggestions in terms of energy manipulation, healing, etc, as I'm fairly new to this area.
And I'm not just posting this for suggestions about my personal condition - I would like it if someone could give me a pointer towards useful resources for energy manipulation with a focus on healing."
I do not know if this has been mentioned, but i think you are thinking of BIOKENISIS, i have done this in the past and worked remarkably well. But there have been some side effects. anyway look into it.