I've recently been trying to astral project - lately I havn't been able to even get the vibrations, but that's a different segment of "Help the needy" isn't it?
Anyways - last time I attempted I seperated completely, except for my head. It was quite frustrating... Any tips or comments?
Also - I heard somewhere that if you have metal in your body, i.e. earing, tounge rings, etc, that the projection process wont work/will be different/difficult. What is this all about? Will the same effects occur if you have metal ON your body? Like a necklace, or headphones?
But yeah - that's that.
All I have to say, unless yall wanna help me with one more thing: I've been lacking energy lately - no change in diet, activity, or anything else - just been lacking energy.
Alright - ya - so that's it.
Oh! And, I'm so glad OF is back and running! *hugs monitor*
well i dont know much about astral projection but for the lack of energy try to centre yourself by what i mean connect all your energy pools as well as your soulenergy or you can try grounding. if it doesnt work than im not sure what is wrong with you usually people have more than enough energy in your body like a surplus amount.
Not going to comment too far, and you have hit upon a major drawback for our Gothic followers. If you introduce a metallic element you seriously disrupt the magnetic flow. As a rastafarian would say, nowt shall pierce thy skin.
[QUOTE=Wiseone]well i dont know much about astral projection but for the lack of energy try to centre yourself by what i mean connect all your energy pools as well as your soulenergy or you can try grounding. if it doesnt work than im not sure what is wrong with you usually people have more than enough energy in your body like a surplus amount.[/QUOTE]
Alright - I can try - but what if i've never done anything that would need centering? Nothing that has really expelled energy? I guess by projection as far as I did it may have put off some energy, but I dont know...
Which brings me to a question for you, and any other reader of this, knowledgable in the field - if I just kind of gave up - didnt see my astral lining back up with my physical body, but just sort of rolled over and stopped trying and went to sleep - could that be a reason for my energy loss? My astral body still just kind floating out away from me despelling energy?
[QUOTE=kalki]Not going to comment too far, and you have hit upon a major drawback for our Gothic followers. If you introduce a metallic element you seriously disrupt the magnetic flow. As a rastafarian would say, nowt shall pierce thy skin.
I will say no more except, try it.[/QUOTE]
Try it? By try it do you mean try it with metal inside my body/on my body?
And I dont like how you don't comment, and leave me to figure it out for myself! :-P I know that's the way to learn, but c'mon!
Not going to comment too far, and you have hit upon a major drawback for our Gothic followers. If you introduce a metallic element you seriously disrupt the magnetic flow.
For me, wearing gold aids in Astral Travel and other metals hinder it. If I just want an uninterupted nights sleep, I'll wear silver rings and a necklace. It's worth experimenting with.
[QUOTE=Serpentiferous]For me, wearing gold aids in Astral Travel and other metals hinder it. If I just want an uninterupted nights sleep, I'll wear silver rings and a necklace. It's worth experimenting with.
-Serpenti[/QUOTE]Hmm... Intriguing... I'll have to try it. I believe the necklace I have is gold... Then again, it could be false. Whatever. Thanks
I've never experienced problems with any metals. Everyone has substances that they work better with or better without and they vary from personality to personality.
It's all in your heads. Metals don't even really exist!!! They are nothing than illusionary objects part of the system of mass consensual reality. As far as that goes, "energy" doesn't exist either. Have any of you ever asked what exactly this "energy" or "vibrations" even are? Light? Electricity? Sound Waves? Friction? Etc, etc, etc? Or is this "energy" an immaterial "thing" (or better put manifest in material, yet immaterial as concepts) like for instance emotions, mathematics, audio thoughts, data, etc? Or is it just some kind of unknown concept that you only have a vauge idea of, yet believe in it, and use it anyway? For instance like it's "the stuff of the astral?," or "the stuff of the etheric?" If so, what exactly is this astral or etheric, and how does it relate to your psyche and the physics of your perceived reality, and the whole of consensual reality in general?
To Isyron though. Maybe you simply can't astral project, because of some internal conflict within your own ego? For instance like the fear of the unknown, fear that you will die, or meet some kind of nasty demon that will rip your astral body in two and kill or harm you in some way, or maybe even the fear that the astral plane(s) are not real? Or maybe you even believe somewhere within your mind, that you are not worthy and or experienced enough to astral project? Whichever the case, only you can answer this. Although if you believe it's because of something like a vauge modern occult term like energy and or distrubances of this by metals or something else, it may just be exactly that.
Whatever the problem is, my advice would be to step back, analyze your situation and how you are approaching it, then look for any problems you conciously or intuitively see, then think of a way that you can resolve them. Also, my point in saying the above about "energy," is to simply show how funny belief systems are. But as magicians, it's not how logical, illogical, understood or vauge the belief system (theory of a piece or whole of "reality") is, but weither it works or not, and if not, how come, and if so, how come as well and to what extent. This is just my 2 cents about occultism though, and the path of the magus though.
Okay, I will quietly fade back into my personal chaotic (in)sanity now. :lol:
(By the way, I probably am not going to have an internet connection for a while, due to events in my life and major life changes, so if I don't see you all for a few months or so, or even longer, you all will know why, if any of you wonder that is. Goodbye, and I hope no more script kiddies plauge this wonderful forum.)
Something that I might suggest is NOT to think about it to much. Getting the right vibrations isnt hard for me, its the actual seperation and then travel. The VERY limmited experiences I have with the astral is because when I get the right vibrations I get over zelous and then lose it. Its not as easy as it sounds my friend...hell ive been trying fer 3 years . Ive had one astral projection then lost it real quick. Ive seperated different body parts, then get too excited and snap back in .
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(By the way, I probably am not going to have an internet connection for a while, due to events in my life and major life changes, so if I don't see you all for a few months or so, or even longer, you all will know why, if any of you wonder that is. Goodbye, and I hope no more script kiddies plauge this wonderful forum.)[/QUOTE]
That's terrible! I love your outlook on the whole belief system. I feel the same way, however, obviously I forgot about my belief of such things, as I am believing in them... if that makes sense.
I hope your life changes are for the best, and that you do well in such an environment. I hope that these manifested emotions that so many have come to believe will be good for you, and that you enjoy such things.
[QUOTE=Ashnook]Something that I might suggest is NOT to think about it to much. Getting the right vibrations isnt hard for me, its the actual seperation and then travel. The VERY limmited experiences I have with the astral is because when I get the right vibrations I get over zelous and then lose it. Its not as easy as it sounds my friend...hell ive been trying fer 3 years . Ive had one astral projection then lost it real quick. Ive seperated different body parts, then get too excited and snap back in .[/QUOTE]
I've projected almost entirely though, and I've been trying for maybe 3 months at best. I too get overexcited and begin to lose vibrations, or focus, but the way I am mentally, I can easily calm myself and return to these states immediately and be A.O.K.
Go me?
Thanks though - I understand it's not easy - I understand it takes work. It is these things being overcome that makes someone worthy of such an ability I'll keep trying!
well i would say for you is to get a crystalthat would really help you out on this cause maybe you are using astral projection too much or maybe you are skeptical i guess with astral projection i dont know but try the crystals. i suggest a clear quartz.
[QUOTE=Wiseone]well i would say for you is to get a crystalthat would really help you out on this cause maybe you are using astral projection too much or maybe you are skeptical i guess with astral projection i dont know but try the crystals. i suggest a clear quartz.[/QUOTE]
Strange that you should mention it, because I inherited my grandmother's rock collection, and she's got some cool crystals. I believe I have some clear quartz.
well use them because they can really reenergize you but you will have to find the right crytsal to do so by what i mean you must make sure the crystal feels right for you and then you can go from there.
Alright. I'll have to pull out some of the stones that I was left with - the ones that I really like. To sound kind of religious, I think my grandmother may be able to help me out some if I use them. Possibly. *shrug* who knows.
Anyways - i'll pull some out, and ask ya if they've been known to work/are crystals or not.
I forgot where I read this but it said that if your head gets stuck its because #1 you have to many things on your mind ,#2 very intellegent or #3 have a huge ego . Thats your choice . But it also said that when this happens your astral body should grab something and pull . Or if that doesn't work to roll aroung ( again astral ) I can't remember the name but it was a realy cool website .
I forgot where I read this but it said that if your head gets stuck its because #1 you have to many things on your mind ,#2 very intellegent or #3 have a huge ego . Thats your choice . But it also said that when this happens your astral body should grab something and pull . Or if that doesn't work to roll aroung ( again astral ) I can't remember the name but it was a realy cool website .
Bless Be[/QUOTE]
I think that's about right - I DO have a VERY LARGE intellect. But not a big ego! :-P
No - I am very smart. My ego isn't very big though. I'm actually very modest. I've heard about the too-many-things-on-mind thing. I'll be sure to try that though! That is, if I can get vibrations again - I've been falling asleep every time I try to project lately. Oh well.
I dont want to pry but maybe you have too many things going on in your life and when you get home your mind probably wants to shut down . If that is the is the reason then you should wait untill things calm down a bit . Thats just my opinion tho , hope it helps .
If I didn't want people to pry I wouldn't post on here for their opinions! ^.^ I'd go read a book on the subject and spend countless hours mulling over it like closed minded people who don't want to take other human beings' advice.
Thanks - that could be it. Schools gonna start soon, pondering going on over my girlfriend, extra curricular activities.
I've been sleeping a lot longer than I usually do too though lately. I'll sleep quite a good deal, but I think I'm hitting another growth spirt. That could be why.
Yeah, I'm prying...and if ya wanna know why search this forum fer psy-vamp
I'm not saying she is...but *shrug* that certainly is a possibility. Even if she is an unknowing one.
As for metals, Copper fer one can aid in energy work. I dunno if it'll help or hinder with astral travel...but I'd certainly not worry about wearing it unless I've heard otherwise.
Good luck with whatever the issue is...I certainly hope fer only the best with ya.
[QUOTE=Qryztufre]How long have you been with this girlfriend?
Yeah, I'm prying...and if ya wanna know why search this forum fer psy-vamp
I'm not saying she is...but *shrug* that certainly is a possibility. Even if she is an unknowing one.
As for metals, Copper fer one can aid in energy work. I dunno if it'll help or hinder with astral travel...but I'd certainly not worry about wearing it unless I've heard otherwise.
Good luck with whatever the issue is...I certainly hope fer only the best with ya.
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We've been together for 9 months, almost 10. I think it's just that I've been thinking about... things... involving us and that could be on my mind. I don't think she's a vamp, unless she's just coming in to "bloom" ?
Well, from what I understand it happens around puberty...though most that it happens to tend to ignore the symtoms. I did, and I did for years...though I had NO CLUE what a pranic vampire was. Now that I do things are changing.
It's HIGHLY unlikely that she is...but this is still a possibilty. If she is one and is still unaware of the fact you SHOULD be able to ignore the draining effects by simple shielding. Hell, natural shielding often blocked me (I think).
Before you confront her about it (if you even do, as it's likely not needed) besure you FULLY research the topic. It is my opinion that MANY people are mis-diagnosed with this and simple become psy-leeches thinking they need energies that they really don't need.
You might even have drawn some form of astral creature that is now sucking the life outta ya...and again, shielding should take care of this.
I'll drop the topic, as I'm likely wrong (statistically is should be pretty rare I'd assume).
Work on yourself first and formost. Learn your other energy workings, ground, center and all that...
. Ive had one astral projection then lost it real quick. Ive seperated different body parts, then get too excited and snap back in 
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will be good for you, and that you enjoy such things.