Original post: gothicpixie
i am jsut wondering if anyone has an actual working spell, incantation, ritual or similar that enables a person to levitate or fly. i have serisously only atchieved levitation once a few years back and have never been able to do it since. I would prefer more aged information than new age rituals but if needs be. If you have a way that you know works and have done yourself please let me know but please only post if you know it works or have tried it yourself.
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Original post: Lioncourrte
Could you tell us about your prior experience levitating, to give us better insight?
Could you tell us about your prior experience levitating, to give us better insight?
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Original post: Centrix
Why did you copy and paste this post to two different sections?
Why did you copy and paste this post to two different sections?
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Original post: Helmut II
I don't know about you guys... but I'm kinda wanting to chalk this one up to n00b silliness. On the other hand, there are plenty of ways to do it. But none of them are efficient/useful.
I don't know about you guys... but I'm kinda wanting to chalk this one up to n00b silliness. On the other hand, there are plenty of ways to do it. But none of them are efficient/useful.
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Original post: doh
No, you can't fly. Sorry.
Levitation is another thing, but it's generally not some spontaneous thing or related to a spell. The only true levitation I have ever heard of belongs to a branch of Far Eastern religious belief and happens while in a trance like state during meditation and is accomplished only by masters of the art. I'm not saying that no one else can do or that it's impossible to do by magic, but, from what I've seen and heard from VERY experienced spell casters, it's a pipe dream.
Not only that, but if you are new, which it doesn't take a lot to understand that you are, you really need to start a little lower on expectations of what magic can and can't do and what it is and isn't. No offense, just being honest. I don't believe in pumping people full of crap.
No, you can't fly. Sorry.
Levitation is another thing, but it's generally not some spontaneous thing or related to a spell. The only true levitation I have ever heard of belongs to a branch of Far Eastern religious belief and happens while in a trance like state during meditation and is accomplished only by masters of the art. I'm not saying that no one else can do or that it's impossible to do by magic, but, from what I've seen and heard from VERY experienced spell casters, it's a pipe dream.
Not only that, but if you are new, which it doesn't take a lot to understand that you are, you really need to start a little lower on expectations of what magic can and can't do and what it is and isn't. No offense, just being honest. I don't believe in pumping people full of crap.
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Original post: Venefica
I agree that this is not something a beginner can do, or even someone advanced. I believe anything is possible so surely levitation and flying and what not are to, but this is more advanced stuff than most dedicated occultists will ever experience.
I agree that this is not something a beginner can do, or even someone advanced. I believe anything is possible so surely levitation and flying and what not are to, but this is more advanced stuff than most dedicated occultists will ever experience.
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Original post: gothicpixie
mm my experience was through meditation i was focusing all my concentration on making myself erm mm how to put iut llike light as a feather is a good example though only as an example my original train of thoguth on the idea was mentally reducing my wieght combined with using the energy around me to lift me and at the same time changing the enrgy beneath me to create a magnetic field that repelled each other anyway needles to say it worked i lost concentration and fell back onto my bed though that was 3-4 years ago and its never worked for me since.
In response to the pipe dream comment anything is possible for exampel they foudn a wall in teh east where the remains of monks were found as id they had been walking through the wall and had lost either concentration or energy to do it. How did they do this well as anyone with a knowledge of energy knows the world everything including ourselves is made of energy and also it is possible to manipulate and change the frequency of this energy, so if you have a wall say vibrting at 1200 vibrations per second and you vibrate at 1300 vibrations per second with enough meditation, focus and practise you can change the vibration in which you vibrate to either
1. the same vibration as the wall which may enoble you to pass through it OR
2. lower the vibration of the wall so much that it goes from being solid to either a liquid or gas like substance therefor also being able to pass thorugh it.
SO back to the original request worded d9ifferently how do you think that you could manipulate the energy around you in order to athieve the art of levetation or of flying besides OBE.
In response to being new to this i personally am a practioner of shamanism a cross of the native american beliefs / eastern physlosphy and celtic shamanism and have been for many years personally witchcraft and paganism has not appealed to me as much though i did give it a go in my teenage years but decided that it was not for me as i found the results of even the most simple spells and rituals to be vague or half hearted at most.
When i moved onto adapt more native american beliefs i found a whole different world opened before me for the first time in my practises i could see the shimmering energy which surrounds us, the great vortexes of energy which shoot up into the heavensand off across the sky, power animals and the use of totems, other worls which could be traversed through various drumming, dancing and chanting techniques, how to conduct a medicine wheel which brought with it terrific amounts of energy and eventually brought me closer with wakan tanka (great spirit).
I started to open more to spirit and eventually foudn that i could talk to them and indeed let them channel thropugh me to pass messages on to people on this plane of existence.
from this i started to learn about other beings in the universe that work behind the scenes like the angels, alien beings, spirits in fact foudn that i could talk to animals, trees, rocks, sea. My native name given to me through a native american cermony is fast running wolf.
anyways theres some of my history lol wont put any more i stopped writing essays years ago in high school.
Yes i have asked wakan tanka adn the spirit world for the answer to my questions and the response i recieved was to search for my answer and learn all i could about it, focus and meditation which i have been trying for years so i thoguht i would ask an online forum where i might find others of similar mind. So in a sense i was drawn here in all the years iv been doign this i have never been inclined to looko for an occult forum.
mm my experience was through meditation i was focusing all my concentration on making myself erm mm how to put iut llike light as a feather is a good example though only as an example my original train of thoguth on the idea was mentally reducing my wieght combined with using the energy around me to lift me and at the same time changing the enrgy beneath me to create a magnetic field that repelled each other anyway needles to say it worked i lost concentration and fell back onto my bed though that was 3-4 years ago and its never worked for me since.
In response to the pipe dream comment anything is possible for exampel they foudn a wall in teh east where the remains of monks were found as id they had been walking through the wall and had lost either concentration or energy to do it. How did they do this well as anyone with a knowledge of energy knows the world everything including ourselves is made of energy and also it is possible to manipulate and change the frequency of this energy, so if you have a wall say vibrting at 1200 vibrations per second and you vibrate at 1300 vibrations per second with enough meditation, focus and practise you can change the vibration in which you vibrate to either
1. the same vibration as the wall which may enoble you to pass through it OR
2. lower the vibration of the wall so much that it goes from being solid to either a liquid or gas like substance therefor also being able to pass thorugh it.
SO back to the original request worded d9ifferently how do you think that you could manipulate the energy around you in order to athieve the art of levetation or of flying besides OBE.
In response to being new to this i personally am a practioner of shamanism a cross of the native american beliefs / eastern physlosphy and celtic shamanism and have been for many years personally witchcraft and paganism has not appealed to me as much though i did give it a go in my teenage years but decided that it was not for me as i found the results of even the most simple spells and rituals to be vague or half hearted at most.
When i moved onto adapt more native american beliefs i found a whole different world opened before me for the first time in my practises i could see the shimmering energy which surrounds us, the great vortexes of energy which shoot up into the heavensand off across the sky, power animals and the use of totems, other worls which could be traversed through various drumming, dancing and chanting techniques, how to conduct a medicine wheel which brought with it terrific amounts of energy and eventually brought me closer with wakan tanka (great spirit).
I started to open more to spirit and eventually foudn that i could talk to them and indeed let them channel thropugh me to pass messages on to people on this plane of existence.
from this i started to learn about other beings in the universe that work behind the scenes like the angels, alien beings, spirits in fact foudn that i could talk to animals, trees, rocks, sea. My native name given to me through a native american cermony is fast running wolf.
anyways theres some of my history lol wont put any more i stopped writing essays years ago in high school.
Yes i have asked wakan tanka adn the spirit world for the answer to my questions and the response i recieved was to search for my answer and learn all i could about it, focus and meditation which i have been trying for years so i thoguht i would ask an online forum where i might find others of similar mind. So in a sense i was drawn here in all the years iv been doign this i have never been inclined to looko for an occult forum.
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Original post: Helmut II
Your theory's sound, but there's a lot of things you have to overcome to apply it.
1. You have to have enough raw spirit power to prolong that type of state/technique.
2. You have to be an elemental mage for there to be any substantial way to use it.
And really, since you're a shaman, you shouldn't be doing things like that anyway. I've seen powerful wind mages who can only use a technique such as that to increase their jumping ability and a few seconds of gliding.
Your theory's sound, but there's a lot of things you have to overcome to apply it.
1. You have to have enough raw spirit power to prolong that type of state/technique.
2. You have to be an elemental mage for there to be any substantial way to use it.
And really, since you're a shaman, you shouldn't be doing things like that anyway. I've seen powerful wind mages who can only use a technique such as that to increase their jumping ability and a few seconds of gliding.
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Original post: doh
My apologies for the assumption you were new. Your type of question is just one that we get from newbies quite often.
I'll see what I can drum up on that practice I mentioned. It's rather obscure and, since I wasn't inclined to integrate it, it got put off so please be a bit patient as it will probably be at least a day or two before I can find it.
My apologies for the assumption you were new. Your type of question is just one that we get from newbies quite often.
I'll see what I can drum up on that practice I mentioned. It's rather obscure and, since I wasn't inclined to integrate it, it got put off so please be a bit patient as it will probably be at least a day or two before I can find it.
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Original post: gothicpixie
iv already started practising in the elemental side of things iv found theres no reason why you cant mix different techniques, beliefs or practises as you need to find in the world what works best for you.
Although if anyone has any informaiton on elemental magick or technique i would be pleased to hear them because most of the stuff im trying out doesnt work or has pitifull results for what it promises.
Ususally i have to delve back in time through older manuscripts from various museums in order to learn and practise as the new age information doesnt seem to work for me.
oh thanks for looking that up hope to hear from you soon.
iv already started practising in the elemental side of things iv found theres no reason why you cant mix different techniques, beliefs or practises as you need to find in the world what works best for you.
Although if anyone has any informaiton on elemental magick or technique i would be pleased to hear them because most of the stuff im trying out doesnt work or has pitifull results for what it promises.
Ususally i have to delve back in time through older manuscripts from various museums in order to learn and practise as the new age information doesnt seem to work for me.
oh thanks for looking that up hope to hear from you soon.
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Original post: Valon
The problems come not from gaining knowledge of different "mystical" traditions, but from the wisdom gained and the level of study and effort put into doing so. There are so many "pagans" today who are a mix of nearly every tradition that encompasses the globe. But here is what I see in most of them:
- They spent little time researching the traditions and practices.
- They picked out either the easiest or "coolest" parts to take as their own.
- They are only mixing traditions to be "different" from other pagans.
What we end up with is a cobbled-together Frankenstein's Monster of ancient and modern beliefs. Yes, you can make the arguement that each tradition has things we can learn from it, but if I tell you I'm a traditional Roman Catholic Celtic Druid, I should kill myself on the spot. You can't follow things that are in opposing beliefs, sometimes to extremes.
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The problems come not from gaining knowledge of different "mystical" traditions, but from the wisdom gained and the level of study and effort put into doing so. There are so many "pagans" today who are a mix of nearly every tradition that encompasses the globe. But here is what I see in most of them:
- They spent little time researching the traditions and practices.
- They picked out either the easiest or "coolest" parts to take as their own.
- They are only mixing traditions to be "different" from other pagans.
What we end up with is a cobbled-together Frankenstein's Monster of ancient and modern beliefs. Yes, you can make the arguement that each tradition has things we can learn from it, but if I tell you I'm a traditional Roman Catholic Celtic Druid, I should kill myself on the spot. You can't follow things that are in opposing beliefs, sometimes to extremes.
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Original post: Blackbird
a friend of mine always tells this story about how his mom was in a cult a long time ago (back when she was in her 20s)...that she and a few people, were able to do the "light as a feather, hard as a board" thing to someone...lifting him up with their fingertips. i've also read a website about how there's some christian meditation organization that costs a lot of money that you can pay to be a part of and the people there levitate through laughter or something. the money thing throws me off, making me think it's not true, but the story my friend told me i mostly believe...but wasn't there to see it, so i don't really know if it was just a lot of people using their fingers or if she was just telling a scary story to tell her son about the dangers of "satan worshipping witchcraft."
anyway, yeah, i haven't ever seen it happen, but i wouldn't deny it as a possibility (even though it seems scientifically improbable).
i had a recurring dream once as kid where i could jump a certain way on my driveway and fly though--i kept trying it but it never worked. i chalked it up as "i forgot how to do it!" lol.
i'm superman, so i can fly, though. here's how it's done: just sprinkle a little fairy dust over you, head towards the second star on the left and keep going till you hit neverland.
a friend of mine always tells this story about how his mom was in a cult a long time ago (back when she was in her 20s)...that she and a few people, were able to do the "light as a feather, hard as a board" thing to someone...lifting him up with their fingertips. i've also read a website about how there's some christian meditation organization that costs a lot of money that you can pay to be a part of and the people there levitate through laughter or something. the money thing throws me off, making me think it's not true, but the story my friend told me i mostly believe...but wasn't there to see it, so i don't really know if it was just a lot of people using their fingers or if she was just telling a scary story to tell her son about the dangers of "satan worshipping witchcraft."
anyway, yeah, i haven't ever seen it happen, but i wouldn't deny it as a possibility (even though it seems scientifically improbable).
i had a recurring dream once as kid where i could jump a certain way on my driveway and fly though--i kept trying it but it never worked. i chalked it up as "i forgot how to do it!" lol.
i'm superman, so i can fly, though. here's how it's done: just sprinkle a little fairy dust over you, head towards the second star on the left and keep going till you hit neverland.
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Original post: palimpsest
A couple of problems with working from aged information like old grimoires about witch's flying ointments is that they cause boils on mucous membranes and they probably just hallucinated the flying part. Maybe another approach, like etheric projection or a fuller empathy with birds that would allow you to hitch a ride in their minds? They're kind of psionic and modern, but I personally find the new magicks (with a bit-- okay, a lot-- of criticism and experimentation) a bit more applicable...
A couple of problems with working from aged information like old grimoires about witch's flying ointments is that they cause boils on mucous membranes and they probably just hallucinated the flying part. Maybe another approach, like etheric projection or a fuller empathy with birds that would allow you to hitch a ride in their minds? They're kind of psionic and modern, but I personally find the new magicks (with a bit-- okay, a lot-- of criticism and experimentation) a bit more applicable...
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Original post: Semangelof
(to try to escape the facility I belive).
Eventually he did manage to escape, but that's another funny story...
I heard that Dr.Timothy Leary, (the infamous "acid-guru" aka "the most dangerous man in America" ), did alot of experiment with levitation whilst doing time,gothicpixie;274177 wrote:i am jsut wondering if anyone has an actual working spell, incantation, ritual or similar that enables a person to levitate or fly. i have serisously only atchieved levitation once a few years back and have never been able to do it since. I would prefer more aged information than new age rituals but if needs be. If you have a way that you know works and have done yourself please let me know but please only post if you know it works or have tried it yourself.
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(to try to escape the facility I belive).
Eventually he did manage to escape, but that's another funny story...
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The witch's flying ointments that I have heard of are hallucinogens, they are used to get into a magickal trance, not to actually fly.
The witch's flying ointments that I have heard of are hallucinogens, they are used to get into a magickal trance, not to actually fly.
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Original post: MostlyJust_Water
Levitation probably isn't as hard as most people pass it off as. I find that deep, deep trances tend to be accompanied by a sense of weightlessness. Maybe there is something to reducing your spiritual self to a form lighter than air, and using it to drag your physical self up? There is probably something to the way that the Faery describe lightheartedness as more than just being optimistic. Perhaps they all fly so easily because they're so carefree and ecstatic all the time? You might try asking them something about this.
To that end, the Peter Pan joke made earlier seems quite apropos. After all, he did say to think happy thoughts, right?
Would you happen to have any more specific information about those monks you were talking about? A link to a story or something?
I don't know. Birds are capable of flight due more to skeletal structure and whatnot than any actual knowledge. I wouldn't anticipate that bird empathy would be very profitable, unless of course you happen to be some sort of master shapeshifter capable of altering your bones and muscles in such an extreme manner (in which case your being on here asking how to fly seems improbable).Maybe another approach, like etheric projection or a fuller empathy with birds that would allow you to hitch a ride in their minds?
Levitation probably isn't as hard as most people pass it off as. I find that deep, deep trances tend to be accompanied by a sense of weightlessness. Maybe there is something to reducing your spiritual self to a form lighter than air, and using it to drag your physical self up? There is probably something to the way that the Faery describe lightheartedness as more than just being optimistic. Perhaps they all fly so easily because they're so carefree and ecstatic all the time? You might try asking them something about this.
To that end, the Peter Pan joke made earlier seems quite apropos. After all, he did say to think happy thoughts, right?
Would you happen to have any more specific information about those monks you were talking about? A link to a story or something?
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Original post: Scarlett_156
There is no one spell or technique that produces levitation/flying. If there was, don't you think you would see people flying like EVERY DAY? But you don't, right?
The magic comes from you, not from some outside source. It may be possible to achieve results over time with diligent practice--the two key words here being "diligent" and "practice". Good luck! xoxoxo
There is no one spell or technique that produces levitation/flying. If there was, don't you think you would see people flying like EVERY DAY? But you don't, right?
The magic comes from you, not from some outside source. It may be possible to achieve results over time with diligent practice--the two key words here being "diligent" and "practice". Good luck! xoxoxo
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Original post: Luna Shadow
about 10 years ago my circle and i actually walked across about 8 feet of a 12 ft part gap before one of us lost concentration and we dropped about 4 feet landing in water it was interesting not sure what else to post about it my brain is on auto anyway heading to bed hope this helps
about 10 years ago my circle and i actually walked across about 8 feet of a 12 ft part gap before one of us lost concentration and we dropped about 4 feet landing in water it was interesting not sure what else to post about it my brain is on auto anyway heading to bed hope this helps
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Original post: BlackPaw
Yes levitation is possible, but you need to practice it for a very long time, and before you sink into the practice of levitation you first must practice other abilities which are essential for levitation.
I found a site where you can learn some methods and techniques for levitation, but before you read the actual techniques for levitation i suggest you first read through the previous articles and begin from the basics (such as energy, telekinesis, etc)
http://www.wingmakers.co.nz/Levitation.html
Yes levitation is possible, but you need to practice it for a very long time, and before you sink into the practice of levitation you first must practice other abilities which are essential for levitation.
I found a site where you can learn some methods and techniques for levitation, but before you read the actual techniques for levitation i suggest you first read through the previous articles and begin from the basics (such as energy, telekinesis, etc)
http://www.wingmakers.co.nz/Levitation.html
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Original post: koolbear05
You can fly in your astral body! If you were into CM you could summon a spirit to teach you. I heard they will require that you never tell anyone. But itâ??ll take you half your life. Only thing I could think of that could work. Or try practicing it in lucid dreams, itâ??ll feel like real life, and maybe you might learn a secret technique. Or work with the element air, invoke it, meditate, float up and flyyyyyy
I want to be an elemental mage. . .
You can fly in your astral body! If you were into CM you could summon a spirit to teach you. I heard they will require that you never tell anyone. But itâ??ll take you half your life. Only thing I could think of that could work. Or try practicing it in lucid dreams, itâ??ll feel like real life, and maybe you might learn a secret technique. Or work with the element air, invoke it, meditate, float up and flyyyyyy
I want to be an elemental mage. . .
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Original post: Solerus Silver
well in my short research to answer this post their have been only one book that gather all what i found in one piece,
Franz Bardon's Initiation Into Hermetics have so far been the only book that has listed all the abilities one would usually need to be able to levitate and alter the magnetic forces around his body,
as it is a course, you may well wish to skip what you have already done and know, here is the link;
http://athenaeum.asiya.org/Bardon_Initi ... metics.pdf
well in my short research to answer this post their have been only one book that gather all what i found in one piece,
Franz Bardon's Initiation Into Hermetics have so far been the only book that has listed all the abilities one would usually need to be able to levitate and alter the magnetic forces around his body,
as it is a course, you may well wish to skip what you have already done and know, here is the link;
http://athenaeum.asiya.org/Bardon_Initi ... metics.pdf
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Original post: Gorzakk
Aw let them try it. Darwinism in action!doh;274266 wrote:No, you can't fly. Sorry.
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Original post: endor957
I've read plants like henband aka nightshade produced high levels of something that produced what could be deemed as flying which of course was taken during rituals, hence witches flying to the sabbat.
On a more modern, realistical level, if someone could fly or levitate on their own (without meditation reducing their body weight or something like that) the US government would have them already.
And on that note, why would someone with that ability would post that?
From a western take on it, I think that the idea of flying and levitation comes from the accusations of farmers during witch trails that were overtly distorted.gothicpixie;274177 wrote:i am jsut wondering if anyone has an actual working spell, incantation, ritual or similar that enables a person to levitate or fly. i have serisously only atchieved levitation once a few years back and have never been able to do it since. I would prefer more aged information than new age rituals but if needs be. If you have a way that you know works and have done yourself please let me know but please only post if you know it works or have tried it yourself.
thankies
I've read plants like henband aka nightshade produced high levels of something that produced what could be deemed as flying which of course was taken during rituals, hence witches flying to the sabbat.
On a more modern, realistical level, if someone could fly or levitate on their own (without meditation reducing their body weight or something like that) the US government would have them already.
And on that note, why would someone with that ability would post that?
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I am 100% with you on that one. Does anyone know if there is some collection of the various practices that show the best results, in one place / site? Idon't mean just levitation, but occult and magick in general.
gothicpixie;274549 wrote:iv already started practising in the elemental side of things iv found theres no reason why you cant mix different techniques, beliefs or practises as you need to find in the world what works best for you.
I am 100% with you on that one. Does anyone know if there is some collection of the various practices that show the best results, in one place / site? Idon't mean just levitation, but occult and magick in general.
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Original post: Serafan
Omg people just get an ouija board out and ask someone on the other side if they know, demons and angels can probably do it ask them, mabe theyl even carry you or something.
That or you can try light as a feather stiff as a...board see if that works.
I remember skimming ver something that would help you levitate or even fly something to do with a thingy which is hard to explain, becuase your meant to learn it by what you feel inside your self in a way which sounds quite strange.
Omg people just get an ouija board out and ask someone on the other side if they know, demons and angels can probably do it ask them, mabe theyl even carry you or something.
That or you can try light as a feather stiff as a...board see if that works.
I remember skimming ver something that would help you levitate or even fly something to do with a thingy which is hard to explain, becuase your meant to learn it by what you feel inside your self in a way which sounds quite strange.