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"Dark spirituality" can be used as a broad term for left-hand paths. However, the term dark spirituality has become a much more specific description of a newly-found spiritual path.

The Left-Hand Path from Wikipedia is defined as having the following beliefs:
  • The conviction that individuals can become akin to gods, usually through spiritual insight.
  • The conviction that there is no such thing as a selfless act. Fulfilling one's desire is acknowledged to be selfish, at the least reaping an individual sense of satisfaction. Altruism is considered self-deception, created and fostered by conventional religions.
  • An exoteric interpretation of concepts like karma, divine retribution, or the Threefold Law, resulting in flexible rather than rigid codes of morality.
  • The conviction that the individual is preeminent, and that all decisions should be made with the goal of cultivating the self (though not necessarily the ego).
  • The conviction that each individual is responsible for his or her own happiness, and that no external force will provide salvation or reward actions which do not advance one's own happiness in this life.
  • The conviction that the forces of the universe can be harnessed to one's personal will by magical means, and that power gained and wielded in such a manner is an aid to enlightenment, to self-satisfaction, and to self-deification.
  • A Platonic view of deities as "first-forms." If deity is perceived as having consciousness, then all relationships with the deity are in the form of a partnership, or an alliance which does not require subservience. Some practitioners of Left-Hand Path belief systems summarize this concept with the statement that "prideful deities like prideful partners."
I must point out the specific differences from the above description of a left-hand path and the dark spiritualist's path.
  • The dark spiritualist goal is to survive and achieve "individuation" through spiritual and psychic development, not necessarily become "like a god" although it could be possible. The dark individual's goal is to survive at all cost. Individuation is the process of escaping the reincarnation cycle and furthermore avoiding spiritual death.
  • This point is true. A dark spiritualist accepts the fact that they are selfish beings for their main goal is "SURVIVAL".
  • There are no set rules of what to do and what not to do for a dark spiritualist. All decisions are made based on self-benefit and necessity.
  • A dark spiritualist does not have the conception that he or she is preeminent, but does realize that they are "dark" in essence. They hold the belief that Manifestation is made up of two energies, dark and light, and that their soul is dark meaning they seek to preserve individuality while light seeks unity.
  • Dark spiritualist are adament in utilizing the "Cause and Effect" theory. They know that every action has a consequence or reaction and make decisions accordingly, therefore controlling their own destiny.
  • A dark spiritualist wants spiritual survival. They do this by developing all skills and aspects of their life. Most are against magickal, ritual, and esoteric means for spiritual and psychic development. Also, it has nothing to do with becoming a god.
  • Deities are ackowledged, but not worshipped. Many do enter in a employee/employer relationship with a deity in order to ensure spiritual survival however.
Xenognosis means foreign knowledge. It has been used among certain dark spiritualist to be synonomous with the dark path.

So if you have any specific questions about this brief overview about dark spirituality, or what I understand it to be as many of these things I have not experienced for myself yet, please don't hesitate. I'll try my best to answer them although I'm really not an expert. It is believed that people are born either "light" or "dark". I hope one "dark" may find this of interest and perhaps rethink the path they have walked so far and realize that there is more for them. I, myself, am dark and haven't felt so good since I've started on this path a few years back.

You can visit http://gatheringofshadows.blogspot.com/ and learn more about it. This blog is written by a much more experienced dark spiritualist as you shall find out.

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bellenigma;372127 wrote:"Dark spirituality" can be used as a broad term for left-hand paths. However, the term dark spirituality has become a much more specific description of a newly-found spiritual path.
:angel: this path doesn't seem so dark to me. why is it called a left-hand path? i believe in balancing darkness and light, because they are both in nature.

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[QUOTE=astral projectionist;372374]:angel: this path doesn't seem so dark to me. why is it called a left-hand path? i believe in balancing darkness and light, because they are both in nature.[/QUOTE]

Yeah the meaning of "dark" is not the same as what most people consider "dark" to mean. It is only a description of the kind of energy one is made up of. A "dark" individual can never be completely happy in a "light" religion because it is not natural for them. They are loners, individuals with a set identity that can not be defined by others and can not fade with the others. "Light" people enjoy unification always searching to be "close to god" and being "one" with everything. Light energies and dark energies do not mix I believe.

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bellenigma;372380 wrote:Yeah the meaning of "dark" is not the same as what most people consider "dark" to mean. It is only a description of the kind of energy one is made up of. A "dark" individual can never be completely happy in a "light" religion because it is not natural for them. They are loners, individuals with a set identity that can not be defined by others and can not fade with the others. "Light" people enjoy unification always searching to be "close to god" and being "one" with everything. Light energies and dark energies do not mix I believe.
:) i believe that people can advance beyond this. myself, i feel quite comfortable working with both dark and light energies.

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Then my question would be... how do you foresee your afterlife to be? Will you go to heaven, live in the astral, or reincarnate?

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bellenigma;372395 wrote:Then my question would be... how do you foresee your afterlife to be? Will you go to heaven, live in the astral, or reincarnate?
all of the above in one context or another. and more.

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Theosphically speaking the soul separates from the physical, returns to the Soul Realm where it communicates with the Higher Self in the Spiritual Realm and plans the souls' incarnation. Depending on how attached and dependent you have become on the materialistic aspects of this Earthly Plane will determine the severity (Hell) of your souls' detachment.
Incarnations will continue until one of two things occur, your soul whithers and dies or you ascend spiritually above the Earthly Plane.

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EtuMalku;372405 wrote:Theosphically speaking the soul separates from the physical, returns to the Soul Realm where it communicates with the Higher Self in the Spiritual Realm and plans the souls' incarnation.
i sporadically attend the theosophical society, although i'm not a member. there are some weaknesses with these ideas, insofar as many factors that are contained within various other religions are commonly omitted. the theosophical picture is incomplete.

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Oh hey I learned something new! Theosophy! Kind of goes with dark spirituality. But supposedly a "light" individual who dies will unite with god and lose individuality to become one. Which is what every "light" individual wants to do anyways. Well I mean some of them may be stuck in the reincarantion cycle, but they normally wind up joining god. That isn't something a "dark" individual can do. And if a dark spiritualist Individuates they live in the astral for all eternity. Well until spiritual death which we try to avoid at all costs.

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If you believe religions have any relevance towards what takes place in the Cosmos then yes, I see your point. Being an Asetianist I study many paths, one of them being non-deistic Luciferianism which promotes gnosis and the metaphysical truth without personifications of Universal Laws.

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bellenigma;372411 wrote:Oh hey I learned something new! Theosophy! Kind of goes with dark spirituality.
i attend the theosophical society myself, and have met two of the national presidents on frequent occasions.
But supposedly a "light" individual who dies will unite with god and lose individuality to become one. Which is what every "light" individual wants to do anyways.
this is one common perspective. i suggest that there are also intermediary stages. we're currently discussing life-after-death at the theosophical society national headquarters building in our weekly discussion meetings.

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[QUOTE=EtuMalku;372405]Theosphically speaking the soul separates from the physical, returns to the Soul Realm where it communicates with the Higher Self in the Spiritual Realm and plans the souls' incarnation. Depending on how attached and dependent you have become on the materialistic aspects of this Earthly Plane will determine the severity (Hell) of your souls' detachment.
Incarnations will continue until one of two things occur, your soul whithers and dies or you ascend spiritually above the Earthly Plane.[/QUOTE]

I don't get the Hell part though.

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There is no place 'Hell' it would be perceived in the pain and suffering experienced as the soul tears itself from the Physical Body and its severity depending on how dependent and attached you have become to this Earthly Plane.

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[QUOTE=EtuMalku;372420]There is no place 'Hell' it would be perceived in the pain and suffering experienced as the soul tears itself from the Physical Body and its severity depending on how dependent and attached you have become to this Earthly Plane.[/QUOTE]

Oh okay. Thanks.

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Um, if ya don't mind me asking... don't you mean that the soul would experience pain in the astral by being purged of all its desire until it becomes more unified?

And not necessarily the "soul" being ripped from the physical body being the "painful" part.

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[QUOTE=astral_light21;372428]Um, if ya don't mind me asking... don't you mean that the soul would experience pain in the astral by being purged of all its desire until it becomes more unified?

And not necessarily the "soul" being ripped from the physical body being the "painful" part.[/QUOTE]Yes, thank you for stating it clearer than I have.

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[QUOTE=astral_light21;372428]Um, if ya don't mind me asking... don't you mean that the soul would experience pain in the astral by being purged of all its desire until it becomes more unified?

And not necessarily the "soul" being ripped from the physical body being the "painful" part.[/QUOTE]

Oh... no I don't like that idea when it's put that way. Sounds like purgatory. Why is the spirit feeling pain? Desire of wanting to be back in the physical? Not making sense.

When EtuMalku first explained it I understood it to mean that when the spirit separates itself from the body upon death, this can be painful and depending on how unprepared the spirit is the severity of the pain might be greater. lol Now I'm confused.

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[QUOTE=astral projectionist;372406]i sporadically attend the theosophical society, although i'm not a member. there are some weaknesses with these ideas, insofar as many factors that are contained within various other religions are commonly omitted. the theosophical picture is incomplete.[/QUOTE]

why does this render etu's description incomplete? leaving out wrong stuff is what makes it right. i find reading rawn clark's story "sowantha" enlightening as to the parts of the soul and their relationship, and it fully supports etu's opinion. which is accepted by, i believe, the ordo lux kethri.

edit: though, i don't agree with the pain bit. that is a very physical description for a non-physical body. you might encounter things like choronzon on death, and it is disturbing in its separating you from your tiny little ego, but i don't see this as painful one bit.

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destructive_metaphysician;372434 wrote:leaving out wrong stuff is what makes it right.
right stuff has been left out too.

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[QUOTE=astral projectionist;372400]all of the above in one context or another. and more.[/QUOTE]

I don't understand. What do you mean? How can it be all?

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The soul longs for its own purification after physical death, this is not suffering in the sense of how we know it in the Physical, but it is nonetheless a form of suffering while the soul disconnects itself from the materialistic chains that we have bound ourselves by.

Let me add that the stronger the chains we have bound ourselves the greater the task of disconnection and this Karmic event is remembered by the soul upon its reincarnation, hopefully we use it to spiritually grow.

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bellenigma;372439 wrote:I don't understand. What do you mean? How can it be all?
multiple paths exist. it doesn't have to be strictly one way or another. and still more paths exist which haven't been listed.

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The problem with the concepts of LHP & RHP is that there are some overlapping. Which blurrs everything.

see discussion here:
http://www.occultforums.com/showthread.php?t=29669

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[QUOTE=EtuMalku;372420]There is no place 'Hell' ...[/QUOTE]
(respectfully)

It depends on who you talk too.
Some would say Hell are simply different dimension(s).

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Gnostically speaking, there can be only one truth . . . and who is it that holds this truth?
Ahh, the Mysteries of our lives . . . Eros - Logos - Mythos

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