Original post: Amur
Came up with this great way to heal the unconsciousness and body and the whole system and it is very easy to do.
The Breath of Fire is an ancient method of raising vibration by conscious fast-deep-breathing. You basically breathe in&out 1-5 times / second by doing it relaxedly and consciously. When you breathe this fast the whole body is filled with oxygen and it removes all kinds of mental blockages and what not. This technique combined with EMDR makes it a very powerful healing tool as with EMDR(Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing) combined it processes the information within the unconsciousness and consciousness.
So basically what you need to do is to put your hand in front of you (perhaps 30-50cm) and then you swing your hand continously from far left to far right to far left and follow with your eyes while doing the Breath of Fire(you should make the speed of the hand the same as the breath). Meditate in this way and let anything that comes up come up and just let the breathing method and EMDR do it's tricks. But remember to not really push it, let your unconsciousness deal with the whole thing as it knows what is the best.
Hmm, I think psychologists should be thought this method as it could do wonders in their work
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Original post: Anathema_Oracle
Very interesting. Ive encountered this breath of fire doing some kundalini exercises, not for the faint hearted, literally.
Contrasting this with deep breathing exercises does one enter a more excited state, a kind of trance quality as opposed to a meditative one?
This type of breathing seems to induce a kind of controlled hyper-ventilation?
Interesting to note in a wiki article about hyper-ventilation that:
So basically you might be flooding your body with oxygen while at the same time reducing blood flow to the brain. Sounds like an interesting technique in that the brain, forced into a less active state may be induced into a trance quicker where more intuitive or less conscious thoughts are encouraged as the normal cognitive function is slight impaired?
I guess a disclaimer is don't do this exercise if you have hyper-tension or other vascular issues.
Very interesting. Ive encountered this breath of fire doing some kundalini exercises, not for the faint hearted, literally.
Contrasting this with deep breathing exercises does one enter a more excited state, a kind of trance quality as opposed to a meditative one?
This type of breathing seems to induce a kind of controlled hyper-ventilation?
Interesting to note in a wiki article about hyper-ventilation that:
If carbon dioxide levels are high, the body assumes that oxygen levels are low, and accordingly the brain's blood vessels dilate, to assure sufficient blood flow and supply of oxygen. Conversely, low carbon dioxide levels (e.g. from hyperventilation) cause the brain's blood vessels to constrict, resulting in reduced blood flow to the brain and lightheadedness.
So basically you might be flooding your body with oxygen while at the same time reducing blood flow to the brain. Sounds like an interesting technique in that the brain, forced into a less active state may be induced into a trance quicker where more intuitive or less conscious thoughts are encouraged as the normal cognitive function is slight impaired?
I guess a disclaimer is don't do this exercise if you have hyper-tension or other vascular issues.
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Original post: Amur
[QUOTE=Anathema_Oracle;335920]Very interesting. Ive encountered this breath of fire doing some kundalini exercises, not for the faint hearted, literally.
Contrasting this with deep breathing exercises does one enter a more excited state, a kind of trance quality as opposed to a meditative one?
This type of breathing seems to induce a kind of controlled hyper-ventilation?
Interesting to note in a wiki article about hyper-ventilation that:
So basically you might be flooding your body with oxygen while at the same time reducing blood flow to the brain. Sounds like an interesting technique in that the brain, forced into a less active state may be induced into a trance quicker where more intuitive or less conscious thoughts are encouraged as the normal cognitive function is slight impaired?
I guess a disclaimer is don't do this exercise if you have hyper-tension or other vascular issues.[/QUOTE]
I re-discovered the kundalini Breath of Fire last week (after having forgotten about it for some years) and when I began doing it I immediately began a healing procedure from this state of schizophrenia. Then I thought that perhaps that EMDR would work with the breathing technique and it worked wonderfully. But yeah I suppose there should be a disclaimer to the technique and perhaps some scientific investigation into the whole mechanism of the breathing (as it's not the same thing as hyperventilation, as in hyperventilation you breath very shallowly but in the breath of fire you take deep breaths).
I would say that the state if more energetic and excited than in a mellow meditative trance, and because of the aggressivity and power that comes it should be more easy to break through major traumas or emotional blockages (which in some cases do require power).
[QUOTE=Anathema_Oracle;335920]Very interesting. Ive encountered this breath of fire doing some kundalini exercises, not for the faint hearted, literally.
Contrasting this with deep breathing exercises does one enter a more excited state, a kind of trance quality as opposed to a meditative one?
This type of breathing seems to induce a kind of controlled hyper-ventilation?
Interesting to note in a wiki article about hyper-ventilation that:
So basically you might be flooding your body with oxygen while at the same time reducing blood flow to the brain. Sounds like an interesting technique in that the brain, forced into a less active state may be induced into a trance quicker where more intuitive or less conscious thoughts are encouraged as the normal cognitive function is slight impaired?
I guess a disclaimer is don't do this exercise if you have hyper-tension or other vascular issues.[/QUOTE]
I re-discovered the kundalini Breath of Fire last week (after having forgotten about it for some years) and when I began doing it I immediately began a healing procedure from this state of schizophrenia. Then I thought that perhaps that EMDR would work with the breathing technique and it worked wonderfully. But yeah I suppose there should be a disclaimer to the technique and perhaps some scientific investigation into the whole mechanism of the breathing (as it's not the same thing as hyperventilation, as in hyperventilation you breath very shallowly but in the breath of fire you take deep breaths).
I would say that the state if more energetic and excited than in a mellow meditative trance, and because of the aggressivity and power that comes it should be more easy to break through major traumas or emotional blockages (which in some cases do require power).
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Original post: Anathema_Oracle
Do you recommend a specific posture and breathing technique?
Say for example sitting cross-legged or in half/full lotus if you're flexible enough or laying down?
Also, with the breathing, would you utilize the yogic breath, pushing the stomach out on the inhale and in on the exhale or regular breathing but speeded up and deeper?
Edit: If anyone is interested, here is a video detailing the breath of fire technique as posted on Expert village (I make no claims as to their expertness though: Kundalini breath of fire technique and posture
Do you recommend a specific posture and breathing technique?
Say for example sitting cross-legged or in half/full lotus if you're flexible enough or laying down?
Also, with the breathing, would you utilize the yogic breath, pushing the stomach out on the inhale and in on the exhale or regular breathing but speeded up and deeper?
Edit: If anyone is interested, here is a video detailing the breath of fire technique as posted on Expert village (I make no claims as to their expertness though: Kundalini breath of fire technique and posture
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Original post: Amur
[QUOTE=Anathema_Oracle;335925]Do you recommend a specific posture and breathing technique?
Say for example sitting cross-legged or in half/full lotus if you're flexible enough or laying down?
Also, with the breathing, would you utilize the yogic breath, pushing the stomach out on the inhale and in on the exhale or regular breathing but speeded up and deeper?
Edit: If anyone is interested, here is a video detailing the breath of fire technique as posted on Expert village (I make no claims as to their expertness though: Kundalini breath of fire technique and posture[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the video, shows it quite well how it's done.
Lotus pose would probably be good for it as it feels for myself atleast that the energy is intact there. But I've been doing it mostly just sitting in my normal chair.
Hmm for me the stomach is automatically pushed in and out when I do it, as it comes for some reason quite naturally for me.
I like to do the breathing technique wherever I go or move around in the apartment or whatever, it still gives a good euphoria.
[QUOTE=Anathema_Oracle;335925]Do you recommend a specific posture and breathing technique?
Say for example sitting cross-legged or in half/full lotus if you're flexible enough or laying down?
Also, with the breathing, would you utilize the yogic breath, pushing the stomach out on the inhale and in on the exhale or regular breathing but speeded up and deeper?
Edit: If anyone is interested, here is a video detailing the breath of fire technique as posted on Expert village (I make no claims as to their expertness though: Kundalini breath of fire technique and posture[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the video, shows it quite well how it's done.
Lotus pose would probably be good for it as it feels for myself atleast that the energy is intact there. But I've been doing it mostly just sitting in my normal chair.
Hmm for me the stomach is automatically pushed in and out when I do it, as it comes for some reason quite naturally for me.
I like to do the breathing technique wherever I go or move around in the apartment or whatever, it still gives a good euphoria.
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Original post: Anathema_Oracle
I agree, practising breahwork in daily life I think is beneficial.
The type of exercise you're talking about though, I guess is something you definitely need to do sitting down or you might find yourself on the floor without that being your intent.
Can you explain a bit more about EMDR?
I like to do the breathing technique wherever I go or move around in the apartment or whatever, it still gives a good euphoria.
I agree, practising breahwork in daily life I think is beneficial.
The type of exercise you're talking about though, I guess is something you definitely need to do sitting down or you might find yourself on the floor without that being your intent.
Can you explain a bit more about EMDR?
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Original post: Amur
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The type of exercise you're talking about though, I guess is something you definitely need to do sitting down or you might find yourself on the floor without that being your intent.
Can you explain a bit more about EMDR?[/QUOTE]
Lol yeah can be a bit dizzy doing it while running around
EMDR is short for Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing and is a well established form of therapeutic treatment in the world for traumas and other issues. It is based on the REM-sleep where the eyes move rapidly from side to side, so they thought that it might work also when awake if making the same eye-movement and apparently it worked.
It would be better to do this technique with an established therapeut as they know how to deal with strong emotions that come up and so forth but I think it's a valuable technique for psychonauts like me where I'm already accustomed to all kinds of crazy shit. I could imagine that magickians could also use it in their exploration of the mind and so forth.
[QUOTE=Anathema_Oracle;335936]
The type of exercise you're talking about though, I guess is something you definitely need to do sitting down or you might find yourself on the floor without that being your intent.
Can you explain a bit more about EMDR?[/QUOTE]
Lol yeah can be a bit dizzy doing it while running around
EMDR is short for Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing and is a well established form of therapeutic treatment in the world for traumas and other issues. It is based on the REM-sleep where the eyes move rapidly from side to side, so they thought that it might work also when awake if making the same eye-movement and apparently it worked.
It would be better to do this technique with an established therapeut as they know how to deal with strong emotions that come up and so forth but I think it's a valuable technique for psychonauts like me where I'm already accustomed to all kinds of crazy shit. I could imagine that magickians could also use it in their exploration of the mind and so forth.
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Original post: Nightsapostle
That is so very close the the tibetan breathing that allows them to travel in the most inclament weather on earth. The inner fire celebrated by useing the energy from root to the third chakra. Adreniline is part but it is also bad in inclimate weather so its more controlled. Adenaline saps energy and warmth after its energy is spent.
That and the fact the color red and warmth is so closely associated with palm healing also takeing energy from the abdomen.
Eye movement desensitizeing is also performed by scrying or useing a pointed focus to see an aura.
Where can i learn more?
That is so very close the the tibetan breathing that allows them to travel in the most inclament weather on earth. The inner fire celebrated by useing the energy from root to the third chakra. Adreniline is part but it is also bad in inclimate weather so its more controlled. Adenaline saps energy and warmth after its energy is spent.
That and the fact the color red and warmth is so closely associated with palm healing also takeing energy from the abdomen.
Eye movement desensitizeing is also performed by scrying or useing a pointed focus to see an aura.
Where can i learn more?
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Original post: Amur
[QUOTE=Nightsapostle;335991]That is so very close the the tibetan breathing that allows them to travel in the most inclament weather on earth. The inner fire celebrated by useing the energy from root to the third chakra. Adreniline is part but it is also bad in inclimate weather so its more controlled. Adenaline saps energy and warmth after its energy is spent.
That and the fact the color red and warmth is so closely associated with palm healing also takeing energy from the abdomen.
Eye movement desensitizeing is also performed by scrying or useing a pointed focus to see an aura.
Where can i learn more?[/QUOTE]
Interesting, haven't really dealt into tibetan methods yet but I suppose it will come as time goes by.
You can learn more about the eye movement thing (EMDR) by googling EMDR or reading the wikipedia article. It is a well established therapeutic tool that are used world-widely by many therapeuts, but I suppose that self-testing of the techniques and the frequency of the breath & hand-waving should be done, it should be a good helper in cleaning up some things in the consciousness/mind.
Btw I just came up with this thing a few days ago when I thought about EMDR when I made the breath of fire, so it's a totally new thing (which should be investigated imho).
[QUOTE=Nightsapostle;335991]That is so very close the the tibetan breathing that allows them to travel in the most inclament weather on earth. The inner fire celebrated by useing the energy from root to the third chakra. Adreniline is part but it is also bad in inclimate weather so its more controlled. Adenaline saps energy and warmth after its energy is spent.
That and the fact the color red and warmth is so closely associated with palm healing also takeing energy from the abdomen.
Eye movement desensitizeing is also performed by scrying or useing a pointed focus to see an aura.
Where can i learn more?[/QUOTE]
Interesting, haven't really dealt into tibetan methods yet but I suppose it will come as time goes by.
You can learn more about the eye movement thing (EMDR) by googling EMDR or reading the wikipedia article. It is a well established therapeutic tool that are used world-widely by many therapeuts, but I suppose that self-testing of the techniques and the frequency of the breath & hand-waving should be done, it should be a good helper in cleaning up some things in the consciousness/mind.
Btw I just came up with this thing a few days ago when I thought about EMDR when I made the breath of fire, so it's a totally new thing (which should be investigated imho).