Original post: legionoftheblackflame
[NOTE: THIS IS MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION ON THE ACAUSAL PERSPECTIVE OF CHAOSOPHY.]
Throughout time, man has evolved in such ways as to determine the subsidiary standards set forth by his forefathers to be equivalent to that of adequate reconciled rites of passage from standard form to Chaosophy. Through this, we can see the deliberate misconception derived from the ancients, thus embalming the tyranny of forced religion into the minds of illiterate pigs, destined for a life of remorse and repent for the Chaos as of which they have brought upon themselves; dignifying the extent of mortal conception. The para reality of the Serpent Skin of the cosmic balance resembles the dignifying traits associated with modern Chaosophy in many ways. We as mortal humans, can only perceive the reality of what we know to be true, thus hindering us of immoral reasoning. This, as to the formality of humanity, dictates Chaos in its own whim, even with the order of which was established hence. Chaos, in purest terms, is "The light which is not seen, but felt, shifting the void of darkness deep within itself only to cycle itself into the initial paradox of which it came." Now, let's examine this for a moment. In Gnostic Theology, the determining factor of the current of which the gates symbolize are equal to that of the current pushing them towards each other, hence making them anti-cosmic, in their own whim, creating a void equal to that of Acausal synergy. Within this freedom, we are able to negate the causal void, thus relinquishing the eminent force of cosmic tyranny, once more moralizing the sect of Acausal voids in their whim as well. Through this final step, are we able to conceive the focal point of our artistry, thus creating the imbalance that cannot ever be broken through binding the slavery of the cosmic tyrant. We are thus freed to do what we must to ensure the quality of the Acausal defined vortex, spiraling through our soul. The gates shall open to the deserving, and swallow the illegitimate in her Wrath. One the Death Art of corruption has thus relinquished itself to the soul of the magician, shalt the apocalyptic end draw nearer. For this is thy mind...keep thy soul perforated
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Original post: magic guy
Can this be put into simpler terms?
I'm not enlightened yet.
Can this be put into simpler terms?
I'm not enlightened yet.
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Original post: legionoftheblackflame
Simply stated, that the Acausal forces of synergy only surround the most deserving of them, and that we create chaos just by us doing what we do on a day to day basis. Chaos is never ending, and never beginning. It is with us from now till ever, and was always. We are our own gods and pro creators of our own faith, rather that be for causal or Acausal (cosmic or anit-cosmic). The gates resemble the innermost being of our own passion, thus creating its own wake in it's fortitude, (chaos initially). It's the easiest way I know to put it. If you'd like, email me, and I will be more than glad to answer any further thoughts or chaotic questions...legionoftheblackflame@gmail.com
Simply stated, that the Acausal forces of synergy only surround the most deserving of them, and that we create chaos just by us doing what we do on a day to day basis. Chaos is never ending, and never beginning. It is with us from now till ever, and was always. We are our own gods and pro creators of our own faith, rather that be for causal or Acausal (cosmic or anit-cosmic). The gates resemble the innermost being of our own passion, thus creating its own wake in it's fortitude, (chaos initially). It's the easiest way I know to put it. If you'd like, email me, and I will be more than glad to answer any further thoughts or chaotic questions...legionoftheblackflame@gmail.com
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Original post: Vardigon
[QUOTE=legionoftheblackflame;368900]Simply stated, that the Acausal forces of synergy only surround the most deserving of them, and that we create chaos just by us doing what we do on a day to day basis. Chaos is never ending, and never beginning. It is with us from now till ever, and was always. We are our own gods and pro creators of our own faith, rather that be for causal or Acausal (cosmic or anit-cosmic). The gates resemble the innermost being of our own passion, thus creating its own wake in it's fortitude, (chaos initially). It's the easiest way I know to put it. If you'd like, email me, and I will be more than glad to answer any further thoughts or chaotic questions...legionoftheblackflame@gmail.com[/QUOTE]
What about retro-causality? :evil:
[QUOTE=legionoftheblackflame;368900]Simply stated, that the Acausal forces of synergy only surround the most deserving of them, and that we create chaos just by us doing what we do on a day to day basis. Chaos is never ending, and never beginning. It is with us from now till ever, and was always. We are our own gods and pro creators of our own faith, rather that be for causal or Acausal (cosmic or anit-cosmic). The gates resemble the innermost being of our own passion, thus creating its own wake in it's fortitude, (chaos initially). It's the easiest way I know to put it. If you'd like, email me, and I will be more than glad to answer any further thoughts or chaotic questions...legionoftheblackflame@gmail.com[/QUOTE]
What about retro-causality? :evil:
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Original post: legionoftheblackflame
From my own personal experience, I would say to view retro-causality as a form of manipulated egocentricity as it were. Deriving your own form of retro-causality would mean the destruction of the Causal synergy, thus forming itself, only to be reborn again, as it were. As I had said, Chaos is never-ending, thus never formally a balanced nature. And as such, would in all (un)reality retro-causality be a form of manipulated parallel Chaos in itself? Retro is used to describe futuristic and ancient in the norm, however, I would have to personally view it as Acausal (anti-causal). meaning without cause or reason (Chaotic). So in such, I would suppose in all actuality and rites, your "Retro-Causality" would be highly perceived (at least by me) as being Acausal, thus there is no comparison. Thank you for the posts though.
From my own personal experience, I would say to view retro-causality as a form of manipulated egocentricity as it were. Deriving your own form of retro-causality would mean the destruction of the Causal synergy, thus forming itself, only to be reborn again, as it were. As I had said, Chaos is never-ending, thus never formally a balanced nature. And as such, would in all (un)reality retro-causality be a form of manipulated parallel Chaos in itself? Retro is used to describe futuristic and ancient in the norm, however, I would have to personally view it as Acausal (anti-causal). meaning without cause or reason (Chaotic). So in such, I would suppose in all actuality and rites, your "Retro-Causality" would be highly perceived (at least by me) as being Acausal, thus there is no comparison. Thank you for the posts though.
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Original post: magic guy
Interesting.
Does that come from a gnostic current of thought, satanic, or is it something you came up with independently?
It is a good thing to be pondering about nature of the forces at play in magic.
Eventually, theories will have to be given if we are to explain what works and what doesn't.
The funny thing is... what if we are chasing the un-reachable, if in the process of making a model or theory of how the system works, we change the system itself and it no longer fit the model... just a thought.
In your first explanation there were some terms that mean different things in other contexts, plus a little bit of dramatic intensity which made them unclear.
Thanks for the clarification and for your time.
Interesting.
Does that come from a gnostic current of thought, satanic, or is it something you came up with independently?
It is a good thing to be pondering about nature of the forces at play in magic.
Eventually, theories will have to be given if we are to explain what works and what doesn't.
The funny thing is... what if we are chasing the un-reachable, if in the process of making a model or theory of how the system works, we change the system itself and it no longer fit the model... just a thought.
In your first explanation there were some terms that mean different things in other contexts, plus a little bit of dramatic intensity which made them unclear.
Thanks for the clarification and for your time.
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Original post: legionoftheblackflame
What we have no knowledge of, precedes us in a formal manner, as does life and death. It is inevitable, however through this current, to conceive materialistic matter or thoughts to be wrong or right is truly dumbfounded. I believe to think that our passion (as yours) seems to be for naught, is the greatest fall in a Gnostic Practitioner, you see? It is the one fact of questioning that drives a Chaosophist (I don't necessarily use Chaote, because it binds me to a certain genre of being, and I am truly Acausal) to such lengths to explore the current of which he is engaged in currently. In simpler terms, it is the question of unreasonable mortal doubt that drives us to explore these ideals, rites, rituals, infrastructures, calibrations, soul-seekings, gates, portalis, ect. That in which lies the purest form of Chaos, I do believe. So no matter your views, we are contributing the purest form of mortal Chaos imaginable by questioning the doubts that so many have. I am truly sorry that this may confuse you. Please, let me know of anything you wish to have broken down, Thank you all for reading.
What we have no knowledge of, precedes us in a formal manner, as does life and death. It is inevitable, however through this current, to conceive materialistic matter or thoughts to be wrong or right is truly dumbfounded. I believe to think that our passion (as yours) seems to be for naught, is the greatest fall in a Gnostic Practitioner, you see? It is the one fact of questioning that drives a Chaosophist (I don't necessarily use Chaote, because it binds me to a certain genre of being, and I am truly Acausal) to such lengths to explore the current of which he is engaged in currently. In simpler terms, it is the question of unreasonable mortal doubt that drives us to explore these ideals, rites, rituals, infrastructures, calibrations, soul-seekings, gates, portalis, ect. That in which lies the purest form of Chaos, I do believe. So no matter your views, we are contributing the purest form of mortal Chaos imaginable by questioning the doubts that so many have. I am truly sorry that this may confuse you. Please, let me know of anything you wish to have broken down, Thank you all for reading.
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This was an interesting read, I'm not sure if I understood everything correctly, English not being my native language, but my ideas to this and to Chaosophy in general are the following:
If the universe is created acausal from Chaos, which I believe, then our lives are acausal too. Thus we're free to give them any point we like, anything we do will result, eventually, in Chaos either way, as, when we die, our body decays back to the earth in biological ways, while our "Soul" or "Kia" or however you name it goes back into Chaos, to regroup or split up or for any other kind of rearrangement or "refreshing", so I think.
Therefore it's senseless to seek any kind of made-up transcendence with anything but Chaos. As that is what we're all contributing to, as you said, by increasing its possibilities to manifest on the material.
If we assume this true for us as a paradigm, the conclusion is to me, no matter what I do, it suits Chaos, because I'm acausal and kind of spreading Chaos either way, therefore the only logical "Point" in live would be seeking union with the most pure form of Chaos available to me and trying to bring as much as possible of it into the world, just for the amusement of it for me and my surroundings, and maybe even for Chaos. As death is of no importance, because Kia can't be destroyed and will continue spreading Chaos, there is even no need to fear anything, or to desire worldly goods or values which won't do any good spreading Chaos, like mainstream entertainment or reputation and fame, as hard as that is to accept completely for me in the daily life(still, I'm getting better at it, it seems).
What would you all say to such a world-view? Is it to shallow? Or is it good that it's based on only few principles? Is it a good idea to say, "As there is no given purpose, I'll make Chaos to my purpose."?
If the universe is created acausal from Chaos, which I believe, then our lives are acausal too. Thus we're free to give them any point we like, anything we do will result, eventually, in Chaos either way, as, when we die, our body decays back to the earth in biological ways, while our "Soul" or "Kia" or however you name it goes back into Chaos, to regroup or split up or for any other kind of rearrangement or "refreshing", so I think.
Therefore it's senseless to seek any kind of made-up transcendence with anything but Chaos. As that is what we're all contributing to, as you said, by increasing its possibilities to manifest on the material.
If we assume this true for us as a paradigm, the conclusion is to me, no matter what I do, it suits Chaos, because I'm acausal and kind of spreading Chaos either way, therefore the only logical "Point" in live would be seeking union with the most pure form of Chaos available to me and trying to bring as much as possible of it into the world, just for the amusement of it for me and my surroundings, and maybe even for Chaos. As death is of no importance, because Kia can't be destroyed and will continue spreading Chaos, there is even no need to fear anything, or to desire worldly goods or values which won't do any good spreading Chaos, like mainstream entertainment or reputation and fame, as hard as that is to accept completely for me in the daily life(still, I'm getting better at it, it seems).
What would you all say to such a world-view? Is it to shallow? Or is it good that it's based on only few principles? Is it a good idea to say, "As there is no given purpose, I'll make Chaos to my purpose."?