Servitors vs Bounded spirits.

[biguns]

Lately I've been researching about bounded spirits and got to wonder if servitors could also be bounded, it could be specially good for servitors that tend to leave, so do you bound your servitors?

I have also read at some places that a mature servitor could be a good rival to a spirit, just how much time and energy does a servitor needs to be healthy and thriving? I have only seen 4 of mine, the last one I made three days ago is still morphing a little, I'd bet it still in a phase of "solidifying" itself (for lack of a better word).

[Aliga]

I would think that the very act of creating the servitor would bind it to you - it does the way I create them, anyway - as I've never had a servitor "go rogue" or disobey me in any way. On the other hand, I also tend to make my servitors "self sufficient" in that I don't need to actively feed them energy.

In my case, I had a pair of servitors I had created like that, and after about 2 years they had grown so much they felt and acted more like actual spirits than servitors, so I "unbound" them and set them free from me (an experiment all its own), so now I call them like any other spirit when I feel the need for their assistance.

I would guess that if one were actively feeding the servitor energy and trying to make it on-par with a spirit, it could probably be done in a matter of months.

[Lectus]

It seems you guys have experience with servitors.

How do you create one? I want to learn this stuff.

Thanks

[biguns]

David Cunningham's creating magickal entities is a good source IMO, coming from someone that has researched all over the place, it is a good manual.

You could also check into psionics and the creation of constructs (their name for servitors).

[biguns]

I would think that the very act of creating the servitor would bind it to you - it does the way I create them, anyway - as I've never had a servitor "go rogue" or disobey me in any way. On the other hand, I also tend to make my servitors "self sufficient" in that I don't need to actively feed them energy.

In my case, I had a pair of servitors I had created like that, and after about 2 years they had grown so much they felt and acted more like actual spirits than servitors, so I "unbound" them and set them free from me (an experiment all its own), so now I call them like any other spirit when I feel the need for their assistance.

I would guess that if one were actively feeding the servitor energy and trying to make it on-par with a spirit, it could probably be done in a matter of months.

This reminds me of my ESHE, she appeared in a meditation session so huuuuuugeeeeeeee, it was around one week and a half old, I commanded her to stop feeding because of her size.

[Wonder]

I consider my created servitors as intrinsically bounded. As for the feeding, I don't make them auto-feed, but I "statis" them whenever they are not of use, so they are always as I left them last time. That way they still develop, but only in periods during which I frequently use them.

As they develop, I think they can become as spirits in the sense that they become more complex, and more independent to the will. They also become more powerful. But I believe I will always have much more power over a created entity, even if it developed in an unexpected way, than over a spirit.

[66dragonfly66]

My experience is that these ways of relating to spirits are both kinda superstitious. Created ideas become and are spirits, and carry your nature and signature within them. They exist as part of you unless you find a way to separate yourself from them, because they are born out of your energy. Other spirits, from other sources can become part of you when you interface with them. The only way to really work with those spirits is to create a form you can relate to them with, and then they are partially part of you, and an energy exchange is happening. Binding is partially a work to bring spirits into the material form, so we can engage with them, but any interactions with spirits can be difficult if not dangerous because of the energy exchange. I believe this is the case because of our bodies hold memories which in my mind is our aura, and when we attach spirits to our perceptual memory grid they literally warp our center and perception of ourselves. Too many and we cannot hold center. This is why I am consciousness and using God's names are important, because they give us an anchor (our higher self) in controlling the fluctuation and movement of the plurality that is ourselves.

[Aliga]

But I believe I will always have much more power over a created entity, even if it developed in an unexpected way, than over a spirit.

Oh I agree, my servitors who I "set free" are always happy and willing to help hell, even others' servitors and egregores are a lot easier to enlist/influence/control than full-on, "proper" spirits.

[Aliga]

They exist as part of you unless you find a way to separate yourself from them, because they are born out of your energy.

Agreed, but if a servitor is around long enough and taking in energy that is not from it's creator, then it can begin to take on a life of it's own, just like a child experiencing new things that help define their personality.

Other spirits, from other sources can become part of you when you interface with them. The only way to really work with those spirits is to create a form you can relate to them with, and then they are partially part of you, and an energy exchange is happening. (...) when we attach spirits to our perceptual memory grid they literally warp our center and perception of ourselves. Too many and we cannot hold center. This is why I am consciousness and using God's names are important, because they give us an anchor (our higher self) in controlling the fluctuation and movement of the plurality that is ourselves.

I disagree on this point. The way I see it, just because the light (and therefore energy) from, say, a lightbulb, reaches my perception, doesn't mean that I have to worry about taking on aspects of that lightbulb; it's simply something I'm perceiving. Yes, perceiving and experiencing things changes us, but not necessarily into the things we are perceiving - IMO, it's just the change that comes from increasing our knowledge of the world. Hope that makes sense :/