need some help with partially Hebrew message

[Occultess]

Hi,

I was talking to a spirit today and they used some Hebrew (and I don't know Hebrew). So, I was wondering if any of you could clear up what was meant.

Firstly, unless I'm spacing this wrong between this and the previous sentence, "you love my dittd"

That I looked up and means "to taste"

...but before I looked it up, since I didn't know what it meant, he seemingly tried to say what he was saying a different way. So, he started a new line and said, "my hehkhehmeh"

Google didn't turn up anything for that, but since I thought it was Hebrew I added the word hebrew to it and Google asked, "Did you mean, heh khemah?" and so I asked the spirit if that's what he meant and said it was.

Well, from what I've seen so far, "heh" is the word for a letter in the Kabbalah and means window and corresponds to the number 5.

Khemah, however is pretty confusing, because one site says it means the Angel of Death in charge of killing men and another site says it means poison, another says it means, anger and another says it means buttermilk. So, I"m not really sure what he was trying to say. Or how heh fits into it. Window Poison and Window Buttermilk is not making any sense to me.

[Stukov]

I imagine he is thankful being able to use you as a gateway to this world from the land of the dead.

[LandOfShadows]

Occultess,

Searched the word, found no more than you, other than it being a Football club... Tried Anagrams and such, nothing, tried it backwards and nothing.

This is more like a Hebrew word guessing game... [gz]

Perhaps: Merkabah
If this Spirit knows you have an interest in Hidden Knowledge I suggest you research the word, I found the Merkabah to tie many of my own ideas together.

Hope this helps you on your path.

LoS
Steve

[ddionysius]

This is where a knowledge of qabalah is pretty much essential when conversing with other entities on other planes.. and why people like AC exhorted its study to be to the level of automatic recall.. firstly to test the entity to see that they are logically consistent with the message, and secondly to be able to decipher it on the spot. But of course that's a long way off for most of us.

The letter ה does have the value of 5, and the basic meaning of "window" in Hebrew QBL, however, it also alludes to a host of other things, from Aries to law and conformity. As to which of those was needed in the message, they entity could probably have elaborated.

Interestingly though, looking at your sentence, Heh Khemah (assuming it is HKhMH, and not something like HQMH), equates to 70, which is also ע, or The Devil (and Capricorn), along with other similar value words such as silence, secret and night.

Dittd (DYTD) gives 418, which is a hugely significant number in a few magical systems (such as Thelema), being also the value of the word of the Aeon, but one meaning also equating to love.. (which would be sweet, if it was saying "I love you, my love").

In summary though, a lot of this needs to be tested at the time, and verified that the entity actually knows what's going on itself, or is of a higher consciousness and not just some space junk floating around the planes.

D.

Hi,

Firstly, unless I'm spacing this wrong between this and the previous sentence, "you love my dittd"

Google didn't turn up anything for that, but since I thought it was Hebrew I added the word hebrew to it and Google asked, "Did you mean, heh khemah?" and so I asked the spirit if that's what he meant and said it was.

Well, from what I've seen so far, "heh" is the word for a letter in the Kabbalah and means window and corresponds to the number 5.

Khemah, however is pretty confusing, because one site says it means the Angel of Death in charge of killing men and another site says it means poison, another says it means, anger and another says it means buttermilk. So, I"m not really sure what he was trying to say. Or how heh fits into it. Window Poison and Window Buttermilk is not making any sense to me.

[Occultess]

This is where a knowledge of qabalah is pretty much essential when conversing with other entities on other planes.. and why people like AC exhorted its study to be to the level of automatic recall.. firstly to test the entity to see that they are logically consistent with the message, and secondly to be able to decipher it on the spot. But of course that's a long way off for most of us.

The letter ה does have the value of 5, and the basic meaning of "window" in Hebrew QBL, however, it also alludes to a host of other things, from Aries to law and conformity. As to which of those was needed in the message, they entity could probably have elaborated.

Interestingly though, looking at your sentence, Heh Khemah (assuming it is HKhMH, and not something like HQMH), equates to 70, which is also ע, or The Devil (and Capricorn), along with other similar value words such as silence, secret and night.

Dittd (DYTD) gives 418, which is a hugely significant number in a few magical systems (such as Thelema), being also the value of the word of the Aeon, but one meaning also equating to love.. (which would be sweet, if it was saying "I love you, my love").

In summary though, a lot of this needs to be tested at the time, and verified that the entity actually knows what's going on itself, or is of a higher consciousness and not just some space junk floating around the planes.

D.

Hi,

Firstly, unless I'm spacing this wrong between this and the previous sentence, "you love my dittd"

Google didn't turn up anything for that, but since I thought it was Hebrew I added the word hebrew to it and Google asked, "Did you mean, heh khemah?" and so I asked the spirit if that's what he meant and said it was.

Well, from what I've seen so far, "heh" is the word for a letter in the Kabbalah and means window and corresponds to the number 5.

Khemah, however is pretty confusing, because one site says it means the Angel of Death in charge of killing men and another site says it means poison, another says it means, anger and another says it means buttermilk. So, I"m not really sure what he was trying to say. Or how heh fits into it. Window Poison and Window Buttermilk is not making any sense to me.

Thanks, D! That was actually really helpful!

[TheSeeker]

Okay, admittedly it's like 7 am-ish here, I haven't read all the responses, and I'm trying to get ready to go dig holes for the day in 35 degree heat, but has it occurred to anyone that it might be Biblical Hebrew? [geek2]

[Nahemah]

A little out of left field perhaps,but why not talk with this spirit again and ask them to explain in a language/other medium that you can understand easier?

[Occultess]

@ Nahemah

That would probably be good, generally, but some of the things he said were things where I was like, "No, no, no, that can't be true." Things that would be very hard for me to accept. So, I did a tarot reading on the guy. I've had waaay too many experiences with spirits lying and stuff, so I thought I'd check. Although, the last card was confusing, three of the cards said not to trust him. So, at this point, I'm thinking he wasn't being truthful with me. Probably not even with his form. I think he was faking being someone else. Still kind of interesting to find out what he was trying to say and...maybe even useful. There was one good thing he did for me, though (did a Tarot check on it).

In short, he came to me as Jesus, but I don't think he's really him and I have figured that he was probably trying to pull me away from trusting someone that I have trust in. I don't really like the idea of bringing him around and talking to him again, though, considering.


@The Seeker

There's Biblical Hebrew?
I thought Hebrew was Hebrew was Hebrew.

Ummm.....what's Biblical Hebrew? (other than the obvious)


P.S. If anyone's intersted I could post the whole, weird message (well the written part of our conversation).

[TheSeeker]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew

[Nahemah]

Ooh,curious now,what was the last card?

Jesus was a Hellenised Jew,they spoke Aramaic,might this be the language?

[I'd expect a spirit to know that,especially if they were pretending the form.]

I 'd like to see the rest of the message, I don't know how helpful I can be,but I am intrigued...

Ancient forms of languages often have subtle differences to the modern and sometimes those differences in meaning/pronunciation can be significant. I find Aramaic easier to work with than Hebrew,personally,but I don't know a lot about either in any depth,though I 'd like to try.


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Cross posted with you there,The Seeker,oops.

I checked out the link and found this too,much more in my comfort zone,lol,but I 'm clearly going to have to study Hebrew around the deviation point between it and Aramaic,as explained in that article [ this is quite syncronous for me,in an abstuse manner] :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_script

[TheSeeker]

Or Enochian!
What about Enochian?

Just playing Davil's advocate... [twisted]

[Nahemah]

Wot! The curly stuff under our names,that's too much curly for me... [shock2] [eek] my head might asplode!

[Occultess]

Wot! The curly stuff under our names,that's too much curly for me... [shock2] [eek] my head might asplode!

[oh] ....I thought that was Greek.

Thanks both of you!

And I found another thing that could be on top of that Crown of Anu image that we were trying to figure out. In the link The Seeker posted, the letter Q in the Peleo-Hebrew.

http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... =4&t=33380

Anyway, here's the message:

be goy begfore you kk7777777777777ill people to many people are killed mofyou no people just llu u pg

just love you love my dittd

my hehkhehmeh

[TheSeeker]

I wonder if it was actually speaking Middle Egyptian...
Perhaps it wasn't saying "hehkhehmeh", but "ht.Kmt".

Didjya ask it if it was Hebrew? [eek] [smile2]

[Occultess]

I wonder if it was actually speaking Middle Egyptian...
Perhaps it wasn't saying "hehkhehmeh", but "ht.Kmt".

Didjya ask it if it was Hebrew? [eek] [smile2]

Huh, I did actually think it could be Egyptian, too. I never tried looking for it as an Egyptian word, though. Perhaps, him being Jewish tipped my scales in that direction, so to speak. I didn't ask him, either. But when I got that Google suggestion, I asked him if that was what he meant and he said it was. Ofcourse, this was done telepathically and I'm only beginning to be able to hear telepathically at all. So, it's not the most developed of skills, yet. In other words, I'm not that good at it and...who knows, maybe I screwed it up.

[kimbal]

My own experience with things like this is -Spirits ( of all types and especially the lower vibratory beings ) - are atrocious at spelling and don't use vowels very often. A bit like people who use abbreviations to text mobile phone messages.

Hebrew is a fire geometry that has to be vibrated not spoken to tapp its power. It's used by the Elohim and Elder gods - BUT not necessarily by those in the Underworld.

So to solve the riddle - I would first of all go back to the spirit you contacted and ask what language it is in. ( Use the two 'Words of Power' I have outlined below if necessary after summoning the spirit back in. )

Once the language is known and verified, check to see what dialect or strain of language it is - as there can many versions of the same language.

( Just look at how english has been bastardized in the last 50 years words. Today words may have opposite meanings to 50+ years ago ( Ie GAY and JAZZ are good examples. ) Greek for example has at least 3 versions I know of. Koin'e Greek spoken in Jesus day, Ancient Greek spoken before Jesus and Modern Greek spoken today - all VERY DIFFERENT versions even in writing and spelling. Same with Arabic, Aramaic and others.
Hebrew as far as I recall is no different - Ancient Hebrew almost know one knows it - not even the Jews today know how to pronounce it.

The pronunciation of the israelite name of their God, in ancient Hebrew was > Yahweh < was originally written as > YHWH < or vibrated as > YAH HEH WAH HEH. and also written from right to left like Arabic ( or backwards to us westerners). I have written it here the way we read English which is technically wrong.
Ancient Hebrew had no vowels, only constants, and so the real pronunciation of YHWH is now lost.
In English the closest we get to the correct pronunciation is JEHOVAH.

The reason pronunciation is lost in ancient languages is because the correct pronunciation gives out the current vibration to summon the individual.
So with spirits, such names were often hidden so they could not be summoned. That is why many spirits refuse to give you their name or worse still LIE so you never know what to believe.

There is a simple spell I have used on occasions - which if a spirit won't tell you something it certainly does. You utter the following words out aloud while striking the air 3 times with your Scitmar or Athame saying > ADRICANOROM DUMASO < and their tongue shall be loosened.


None of the above is new information its been around for millennia - but needs occasionally to be discussed, to remind us of what we have now lost !

[Loquai]

Yahweh or YHWH is the literal translation of the tetragrammaton or the magic that rests within an individual. The spirits as they are mentioned have no more need for language let alone its literal translation because they live between the veil that is known as the living and the dead, roughly speaking. The words Yah and Weh are made up of four hebrew words Y, H, and W. Y means "your very essence when speaking in a sentence and is translated as i", H means "what you are or what you are stationed as and is translated as am", and W means "who and what you are while demonstrating your very essence or who i". Together they mean "I am who I am" which has more meaning to those that look directly at it like this. These spirits you down talk where once like you, now they exist in the mist as mist and can, if invoked be used like in the days of old. So please show some respect, since the seven spirits all are in subject to the tetragrammaton and can be used for making what you call a human into what you call an angel or a demon. Then again if you have any questions than ask them at [ address snipped,see below** ] ask for Lox. Or you can ask for David.

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[Asurendra]

I am not Jewish but I did live in Israel for 3 three years in the early 90's. I volunteered on Kibbutzim, among other things. I was fluent in Hebrew. While the plaster is now gone the still rusty girders of the language are there!
In Hebrew and Semitic languages you have to look for the root of the word. That is a core of (usually) three consonants in verbs. 'Dittd' would be then 'D-T-D.' There aren't any verb tenses I recall which begin or end with 'D' to designate a change in time such as past or future. I could not find this root in my dusty Hebrew dictionary. This could also be D-T-T. This could be a garbled form of 'daat,' a known word associated with Qabbalah or possibly 'datit,' which means 'pious.' There are two letters T's in Hebrew: Tet & Tav. I found nothing with letter Tet.
Next is this word 'hehkehmeh.' If we assume that 'he' is the direct article 'H' or 'the' then we're left with 'Hkehmeh.' This sounds similar to the work 'hochmah' which is familiar through the Qabbalah but also there is the word 'hachmanah' meaning 'concealment' and 'hachanah,' which is translated as 'preparation.' I hate Aramaic so I don't have an Aramaic dictionary. It is possible that the first first DTD or DTT root is Aramaic (it does have a more Aramaic sound to me) and this other word is as well and closer to Hebrew so I could find it. Another possibility is that the message is garbled (which is often the case, especially when encountering foreign words) although why mix languages? If an entity is able to communicate fairly clearly by doing so in English but does not it makes me suspicious. Someone who is simply interested din playing games may not be worth your time. While it may be unpopular to say this, it is also possible that even with legitimate communication you yourself may have projected Hebrew words you have encountered into the message.
Ultimately on this I am uncertain but this is my contribution for what it is worth.