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Hello.
For those of you who do not know me (of which there are many I'm sure) I am Lucius RavenCroft and I am the Emmisary and Hammer of Scion.
Scion is an order based around a new(ish) type of magic called "Scion Magic", although it is also about personal growth and development into something much greater and we do not focus on one particular thing as we recognize that everyone has talents in different places. We are very modern and new order and at the moment are not large, Scion magic can be said to be an adaptation of traditional Chaos Magick.

Now then, I have many jobs in the order but in my name I use "Emmisary and Hammer" of Scion to describe my two main jobs as these are the ones I feel as most important. "Hammer" is the job I take of defensive magic, to defend Scion and to defend those who depend upon us, as glorified as this sounds, as with any mage - I am rarely called upon to do so.

"Emmisary", spreading the word. My job as emmisary is what has brought me to write this post, my job is to make sure that those who may need my help (and Scion's help by extension) know who I am and how to contact me/us. That is why I am writing this post, if you feel you are under magical attack, attack from astral entities, demon problems and other magical issues etc., anything. Feel free to private message/email me for help and advice. Why? It's simple, in Scion we believe in helping those who we can if our help is requested, it's as simple as that.

On a separate note, I am based in London, UK and am willing to meet anyone who may wish to discuss with me things in person/requires my in person assistance.

So yeah, feel free to PM/email and/or reply. Thank you for reading [gz]
Yours,

Lucius RavenCroft- Emmisary and Hammer of Scion.

PS, this isn't a recruitment post, if you wish to find out more about Scion and may want to join, feel free to email either myself or "scion@hush.com". [message]

Additionally, to find out more, check out my profile. [grin]
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.... why did this completely come off as an RPG post to me?

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Aww, he's 16. How cute.

I see you moved up from your apprenticeship to uh, Noble Hammer of Truth and Justice (or something) pretty quickly. Reaching merely the 5=6 Adeptus Minor degree in the A.:A.: would be an incredible lifetime's accomplishment. I applaud your Merlin-like talent.

Incidentally, you're not a member of this Scion group, are you? I ask, because your userid is pretty unique, and this appears to be related. It looks... amusing.

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Atleast he is trying to help.
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At least he is trying to help.
Agreed by me too. [thumbup]

Age is no measure of wisdom alone,lol,That has become sometimes painfully obvious to me,given some of the behaviours we've seen here on the forum over the years,never mind elsewhere. [crazy]

It does seem that the Scion group is a little intense and somewhat over complicated,from what Ive read so far,speaking honestly,but hey we all start somewhere and it's going to be a learning curve for them however they do this.
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Age is no measure of wisdom alone
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@ Frater_NT, I apologize if this came off as an RPG post, but it's not- I don't waste my time on stuff like that...
@Azkhet, Yup 16 is how old I am, and no, I am still learning myself and I didn't say that I am an adept- I do understand the confusion though, the stuff past my name does imply that but really it is only because those are the names of the jobs -Emmisary (outreach and communication) and hammer (magical defense- although admittedly very rarely is one called upoon to do so) - I do have a lot to learn and by no means am I saying I have reached a high level at all but as our group is a new one, one does find it necessary to fill the spaces as it were, else we would not be able to grow. In addition, talent I do not possess but (and I know coming from a 16 year old it sounds silly) experience in my speciality I do. What you have done is "judged a book by it's cover as it were". Secondly yes, I am- my username is unique for a reason [rofl]

Occultess and Nahima I thank you for your kind words. I agree Scion is new and yes, there will be a learning curve but since when was setting up a group from scratch easy lol? Anyway, I think we learn all the time anyways.

But yes, I am only trying to help- whether one decides to accept our help or not is their own business but how I see it is we are putting ourselves out there should one want us to help them.
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You are correct in that age has nothing to do with wisdom.

Experience does.

Again, you're sixteen, honey. But I applaud the well-meaningness.

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Help comes from the most unexpected people [thumbup]
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Mmhmm.

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I had the impression he was 16 and probably cute ... just like a certain Allen Walker ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSVc0-U2F70

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Lucius is 16 yes,cute I don't know about though,I've not seen any pics.

I have however observed that he makes decent posts and commentary and has a desire to help others.

So it's all good from where I'm standing. [thumbup]
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Nahema thank you.

To be honest, I've done a lot so far and I am still learning more every day.

Asurendra... URGH! Ha ha lol XD

I love how you think you're original in that obnoxious remark! [wink]

Anyways, I notice that a lot of talk is done on this forum, I'm trying to go a step further and actually help people. Young I may be yes, but I am pretty successful in what I do and I have the full backing of my order so if you have a problem take it up with my order master (link's in my signature if you have the guts :P)

So really, just go skulk and troll elsewhere.

Thing is, I don't particularly care what you think, what you think does not affect my ability to help those who need it one iota! I'm honest, I'm not ashamed of my age, thus I put it out there, this is the internet buddy- I can keep anything I want anonymous :P

Only the week, simple and foolish obsess and pre-judge on small nuances and details.

Finally, the point of me starting this thread was to tell people I'm here to help [thumbup] - not to justify my services, if you wish to attack me on the basis of my age, grow a pair and start a thread about me, I welcome it!

Back to the point of this thread, if you do require help and wish to speak with me one on one feel free to message me :D
Lucius is 16 yes,cute I don't know about though,I've not seen any pics.

I have however observed that he makes decent posts and commentary and has a desire to help others.

So it's all good from where I'm standing. [thumbup]
Again, thanks Nahema, it means a lot coming from you because I do really look up to you [rofl] [blush]
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If you interpret someone speculating you may be attractive and comparing you to a powerful and magical archetype as negative, then you clearly demonstrate that the only negativity lay within you.
Definitely more like Lyserg Diethel before he trained in Hell than Allen Walker.

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Seems like a bit of misunderstanding is going on.

It happens,it can be difficult to gauge tone and intent online and I have done it myself too many times to list,lol.

I'm not going to speak for Lucius,but I do think his defensiveness in his last post probably comes from previous judgement, more than your post here Asurendra. [grin]

I just wanted to add here that I had experienced quite a lot of life by the age of sixteen.

More than I really wanted to,to be honest.

I got married,pregnant and was running my own house before I was 17.
Four amazing kids,one of whom died in infancy [that is harsh for anyone,but I was a bit young to be burying my own child and it was devastating] two suicide attempts and a divorce by the age of 21.
I crammed a lot of life events into a short time and I have the battle scars to prove it,lol.

The upside to all that is that now I can run around and play with my grandkids and still have energy left to party a little at weekends. [wink]
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By 16 I'd been actively studying Thelema, the Lesser Key, and traditional witchcraft for three years. It helped that my grandmother was a traditional witch, and I managed to pick up a fair amount of occult knowledge from her.I didnt have an internet forum to discuss what I was doing - that was 24 years ago, and forums wernt the big thing they are today.

So yeah, nothing wrong with being 16 and deeply into magic. I do agree that this whole Order of Scion sounds like Dungeons and Dragons, but every order needs to start somewhere. Hells, for ages the DKMU were just a pack of grafitti artists and a rather insane back story about walrus' and Oistars, if you get my meaning.

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Speaking for myself, I never commented on his background or his skill set. If anything, that he reminded me of Allen Walker is positive. In the manga D. Gray Man Allen (also 16) is a magical prodigy who is a member of an order of Exorcists (the Black Order).
The probability is that most people on the forum who are serious students and practitioners of some occult practice began, in one form or another, some study around 13 or so. This often leads, as I have seen in others and experienced myself (I can admit my past failings), to a type of inflation. A pile of data points from books is not enough; it takes experience to gain a broader perspective and discernment. Younger people can sometimes confuse the potential they have and feel with what may actually be. If they are over-sensitive it is a sign this may well be the case. Regarding Lucius himself, I can't say.

None of that changes my impression he is cute.

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Ooops [blush]

Sorry Asurendra, I take back what I said. Sorry, it's just I get a lotta hate for bein' sixteen around other places. Yup, defo a misunderstanding.

Thanks guys for being supportive XD

Yeah, I'm not really into sharing details of my life online but I've had a lotta experience by now which contributes to why I became a magician in the first place.

Anyways, thanks again and sorry again for the misinterpretation [thumbup]
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Personally (and I am so sorry I am late to this party),

I've been wondering how someone who, at 16, psychologically would have not ended his formative stage in regards to identity but is somehow able to be a professional exorcist...dealing with spirits of any sort takes the kind of solid sense of identity and will that is daunting for most adults.

BUT I digress. I perused this Scion business for about an hour, and the only thing I gleaned from it is that the person running it seems to be a fairly unpleasant person who is fairly enamored of themselves.

Nevertheless, totally interested in knowing more if there is actually some legitimacy to the entire business. I collect knowledge of occult organizations as a hobby.
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Lucius-chan has been posting to this forum for some time now so he has an established record. His posts are always thoughtful, mature and he carefully approaches any issue he is addressing. His posts lack the pomposity and pretension with which some will mask their own emptiness. He has consistently demonstrated not only knowledge, but compassion. While some have expressed similar skepticism about him in the past, he has earned their respect: myself among them.

I cannot speak to the subject of this organization with which he affiliated. If he is there, though, it must have some value.

On top of all that, he is very cute and like Allen Walker, but that is my own subjective perspective and does not detract from the validity of the objective statements above. It adds to them.

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Hopefully, the 'Scion' thing is better/more legit than their little recruiting website.
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I myself am a fan of trolling and having fun.. but i think it's kinda harsh to be rude to someone who, even tho is 16 has been around this forum longer than most commenting and has always had an exemplary behaviour and personality.
In top of it, he's just making a constructive topic, ye maybe he's promoting a bit his order while offering his services, but that's nothing to condemn.

So i guess people shouldn't focus so much on the age, and more on his knowledge about the subjects, which i honestly don't know how deep they go.

Ironically, the kid showed more maturity then the probably much older people bashing him.

GL with your thing Lucius.

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And he's very cute!

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Hello, I just wanted to add a question if allowed:
Do you have the consent of Lucius to spread the picture? It is because there is a potential of legal problems behind it as well as for himself when a photo of him is posted here. Modern searching software can easily detect such fotos when for example a company where he applied for is searching for him and finds this in this (for them) sinsitre forum, which can cause some problems for him.

I just wanted to remind you of the risks of the cyber world.

Ramscha

PS: The NSAes of course already know it but.... [devil]
bye bye

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You raise some good concerns.

I don't think that Lucius Ravencroft is his real name because this was first used online a few years ago as an avatar for online gaming, so far as I can find. Further, I guess I must confess, this picture ... is not him! Look closely at the bottom left-hand corner.

So, I guess only the NSA will know the truth of who he REALLY is.

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