Tantra Can Be Dangerous

[Jatismara]

Jatismarah "A bomb recipe in print is unlikely to explode"- man what a classic, I am going to keep that one.

In my experience and from what i have read. When aperson has an Orgasm 'he has a little death'. If you can pick up on this you are half- but only half- way to understanding Tantra.

MY experiences tell me that you will NOT achieve illumination through Tantra- that has to be done through hard work. When a person has an Orgasm (O) the psyche experiences a 'breaking open', exeriences a little death, the finite experiences the infinte.(quiphoth). If you can understand this, you are doing well. I agree with Jat, Tantra is only for higher level occultists- and Priests at that.

There are many crackpots out there who think that sex will bring them all sorts of spiritual gifts, but unless you are already in contact with those levels of the subconscious- it is a waste of time9 or is it just a wank? heeh). At the point of O the soul breaks open and the infinate pours through, Prana or actually Pranu. Many visions can be had, however in my case they are vsions of the Abyss and beyound.

Read the works of Willhelm Reich he will explain the fundamentals.

I note you havn't mentioned Crowley yet.

Q

Well, my point was not that Tantra is "only for higher level occultists". Everyone is a beginner at some point in time. So long as you have direct access to a true Tantrik teacher, and follow his instructions carefully, you will most likely be okay. The problem is finding a qualified teacher. Most outside of India, Nepal, etc., are flaky. If they have had any practice with a true teacher, its extremely limited...and they are certainly not qualified to safely teach a beginner, anymore than a high school chemistry student is suited to teach you how to make nitro. If you are really interested in Tantra, your first task is to learn all you can via books, internet, etc., so you can decide which path to take. If danger is a concern, I'd suggest the non-sexual version, as the left-hand tantric path likes shortcuts.
Next, and most important, find an authentic teacher....and be very sure he/she is the real deal!

[ThePrometheanFire]

Original post: durki

So many pseudos abound in the field of Tantra. Countless gullible people fall prey to their esoteric jargon, mystifying rituals and perverted practices. Their hollow promises to impart instant enlightenment and fulfil wishes & desires of the seekers lure, snare, entice and trap many aspiring souls. They invoke evil forces which could be dangerous, to say the least.
There have been very few genuine tantriks down the history. Padmasambhava was one such.

Dangerous indeed, but this comment is one of the most erroneously stated I have ever come across regarding Tantra. It seems that the West is still unclear of what this ancient practice really means. I don't have the time to go through the whole thread but I'd still like to know what you have come to understand about Tantra thus far.

[msrb999]

The word Tantra means structure, frame, system.