Water Scrying
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Water Scrying
Does anyone on this forum have experience or familiarity with using a bowl of water for scrying? I have a few questions to ask about the art, if anyone would be kind enough to answer. I need to know the absolute basics when it comes to scrying with some water. As far as I've been doing it, I have been using ordinary tap water, with a black bowl and a candlelight to illuminate the water. Usually, I will gaze into the water, asking my question when I am ready and awaiting an image to surface into my mind.
Am I going about this the wrong way? Should I be using natural water that comes from a lake or rain? I've heard that some people use food coloring to darken the water until they cannot see the bottom, should this be done? How do you know if you're seeing an image that you're supposed to and not just from your imagination?
Am I going about this the wrong way? Should I be using natural water that comes from a lake or rain? I've heard that some people use food coloring to darken the water until they cannot see the bottom, should this be done? How do you know if you're seeing an image that you're supposed to and not just from your imagination?
"...You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints—know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world." -Anton LaVey
Re: Water Scrying
I attempted a technique from the very good book 'Magical Tattwa Cards: A Complete System of Self-Development' by Mumford. However, I found it was ultimately easier to simply clearly visualize the tattwas and work in that manner. I suppose it depends on the individual.
If you are interested I can get you the information from the book. Perhaps you will be more in tune with it than I.
Also, do you follow Naruto or Bleach?
If you are interested I can get you the information from the book. Perhaps you will be more in tune with it than I.
Also, do you follow Naruto or Bleach?
Re: Water Scrying
The trick is to clear your mind and allow your eyes to lose focus. If you're too concerned with actually 'seeing' something than your mind isn't clear and the images won't be there.
Not everyone has success with water scrying. Some people work better with other mediums. Have you tried fire, mirrors, black mirrors, water bowls under moonlight instead of candles?
Are the candles far enough away from the bowl so that they only give ambient light instead of reflections of the flame/ Is the room around you dark enough?
Not everyone can have specific questions answered this way. Sometimes, it's possible to get random images instead of specifics.
But the biggest thing is to relax and unfocus.
Not everyone has success with water scrying. Some people work better with other mediums. Have you tried fire, mirrors, black mirrors, water bowls under moonlight instead of candles?
Are the candles far enough away from the bowl so that they only give ambient light instead of reflections of the flame/ Is the room around you dark enough?
Not everyone can have specific questions answered this way. Sometimes, it's possible to get random images instead of specifics.
But the biggest thing is to relax and unfocus.
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Re: Water Scrying
Thank you for your recommendation. I am interested if you may provide me with the information of the book, thank you.Asurendra wrote:I attempted a technique from the very good book 'Magical Tattwa Cards: A Complete System of Self-Development' by Mumford. However, I found it was ultimately easier to simply clearly visualize the tattwas and work in that manner. I suppose it depends on the individual.
If you are interested I can get you the information from the book. Perhaps you will be more in tune with it than I.
Also, do you follow Naruto or Bleach?

I do not follow Naruto but I used to read Bleach. I'm more of a Sailor Moon, Fist of the North Star and Bastard!! person, but what are the relevance of the two that you mentioned?
"...You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints—know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world." -Anton LaVey
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Re: Water Scrying
Mm, I think I understand much better now. Thank you.RoseRed wrote:The trick is to clear your mind and allow your eyes to lose focus. If you're too concerned with actually 'seeing' something than your mind isn't clear and the images won't be there.
Not everyone has success with water scrying. Some people work better with other mediums. Have you tried fire, mirrors, black mirrors, water bowls under moonlight instead of candles?
Are the candles far enough away from the bowl so that they only give ambient light instead of reflections of the flame/ Is the room around you dark enough?
Not everyone can have specific questions answered this way. Sometimes, it's possible to get random images instead of specifics.
But the biggest thing is to relax and unfocus.

The only reason I am starting with water scrying is because it seems like one of the easiest methods to prepare. I can't afford to let my family know I practice magic. I would gladly try the other methods that you've mentioned, under moonlight should circumstance permit for it.
Usually the candle will be a few inches or so away from the bowl so that light will be cast onto the water, but I try not to get the flame in the reflection. I use my bedroom and it's usually dark enough in here, as I turn off all the lights and close the blinds of my windows.
Actually, I'd much rather if I didn't ask specific questions and rather see what the scrying session would reveal to me instead. I feel the same way about Tarot, in that I'd prefer the cards to communicate to me what is necessary, rather than asking.
I will keep this all in mind for when I will try again.

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Re: Water Scrying
Try making the whole process into a ritual - ritually fill your bowl with water, add a little Indian ink to make the water pitch black (again doing it as part of the ritual), and really get ceremonial about the whole process. I dunno if it'll work, but thats what I used to do when using water as a divination tool, and all the ritualisation really adds to the whole ambience and 'feeling' of the session as a whole.
Hope this helps. [grin]
Hope this helps. [grin]
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Re: Water Scrying
Mm, I would like to be more ritualistic with my magic, most definitely. I try to be as subtle as possible when working in the house while people are around, however. But I will surely keep this all in mind while I try it again.Case wrote:Try making the whole process into a ritual - ritually fill your bowl with water, add a little Indian ink to make the water pitch black (again doing it as part of the ritual), and really get ceremonial about the whole process. I dunno if it'll work, but thats what I used to do when using water as a divination tool, and all the ritualisation really adds to the whole ambience and 'feeling' of the session as a whole.
Hope this helps. [grin]
I will certainly get a hold of some indian ink or some food coloring of some sort. But I will follow your recommendation and see if I can get the indian ink as soon as possible

Thank you for your assistance.
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Re: Water Scrying
In my experience with water scrying, I begin by lighting candles and incense, casting a circle, blessing the water and adding salt (a good ceremony/text for this act can be found in Janet and Stewart Farrar's witches' bible, thought their method is certainly no more effective than any other- NB consecrating water with salt is a largely pagan practice which may or may not appeal-). I then state my intent aloud in whatever words seem most appropriate. E.g. I am here to divine through this consecrated water, *insert intention here*, and beseech *insert deities names* to aid my eye in this practice.
I then gaze into the reflections on the water, particularly the reflections of the incense smoke, until images begin to form.
Flags, Flax and Fodder.
I then gaze into the reflections on the water, particularly the reflections of the incense smoke, until images begin to form.
Flags, Flax and Fodder.