Go with Low or High magick: differences?

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Go with Low or High magick: differences?

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Newbie here and I'm seeking a wise mind who would be willing to share some knowledge, if he/she may be so kind.

I'm deciding on various spiritual paths to take, and I'm curious about the High Magick / Hermetics path along e lines of Golden Dawn or Crowley vs other magical paths like elemental or nature magic. It appears that HM is a spiritual path, correct? This would make it appear as a sort of Western system of Yoga, a science for attaining union with God rather than a practical system of bringing things about on earth?

Also, my confusion stems from the fact that I'm not sure if HM uses spell casting or not? For example, the books I've skimmed through recently focus on various rituals for empowering, raising consciousness or protecting the magician (golden dawn, crowley), but there do not seem to be hundreds of rituals pre-made for various things compared to the numerous spells one finds in Wicca, etc.?

Is it the magicians duty to write their own rituals specifying the exact effect desired? Or does this work all take place with evocation of demons/angels and astral travel? Am i correct in assuming that HM is focused on evocation work to affect change and that rituals are usually not created according to the will of the wizard?


PS -- no replies now for a while. I hope this is in the right section. I'd appreciate it if someone could clear this up quickly, as I'm very impatient to begin my study of magic in either the Hermetic/GD/Crowley tradition or go with the more shamanistic natural magic.

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Go with Low or High magick: differences?

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i am also a newbie myself so beware of my my advice...
here it is :

trial and error

whatever works for you

whatever brings RESULTS ...

because unlike all other """believers""" and there are many idiots out there (billions...), i only believe in results.

FACTS that can not be explained by wishful thinking, coincidence ..or anything else.
facts. results.

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Go with Low or High magick: differences?

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I could move it for you,but it's probably best here.

You should get more replies now,as we've cleared the spam and posting is picking up once more.

I can offer my thoughts too,but later,as I do not have much time this afternoon..
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Don't limit yourself. I work shamanistically sometimes, ceremonially sometimes, sometimes combining aspects of the two or more. No one path has a monopoly on knowledge. Or power. Experiment.
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Well I'll try to clear this up a bit.
Yes high magic is a spiritual path. The first goal of all the schools of magic you have named is to connect with you true will( goes by different names eg. HGA, genius,daemon,higher self,etc) most of the rituals you find are focused on this that. During this time you learn different magic symbolism and formulas.
A example formula would be state intent,banish, invoke, preform task,close ritual.
After you have made contact with your higher self you would use what you have learned to accomplish your true will by using the symbolism and formulas you have learned which are fairly generic and can be put to many uses therefore you don't see a lot of pre-made spells for things. It also makes it easier to personalise with what you know therefore making a more effective spell.
The types of magic used very but usually include talismans,invocation,evocation,and astral work.

I think i covered most of what was asked in one way or another hope it helps.
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