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What do I do now?

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I've tried various forms of magic over the last 6-7 years. Witchcraft, planetary, sigils, simple candle magick, hoodoo, my own rituals/spells and so on. I've spent hundreds of dollars, and spent lots of time and effort at this. I made sure to do it right, so no playing around.

They say that when you fail, try try again. I never gave up and gave it time. 6-7 years is a while, though that was on and off of course. At this point though, it would be seriously redundant to continue doing everything I've tried again seeing as I've not had one bit of a result from magick at all in 6-7 years.

It's easy to write it off as either that I just plain suck, or I'm doing something wrong. But I assure you I'm not and it's neither of those things. I really busted ass at it. So it's got to be either some people just aren't born with that which is necessary to get results, or I'm cursed.

I'm not giving up just yet. The Tarot divination I did gave me an inkling as to the problem, but it wasn't clear enough. So I'm going to get someone experienced to do a reading for me to look into what's going on with me... I don't really trust those types of people, especially since they'll only do this for money, but it may be worth a shot.

Any advice?

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Also, I live in the middle of nowhere so I'm solo. I've tried looking online for locals to practice with but so far no luck with that.

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Hey there,

It would help if you could express in words what this means to you and what you which to achieve while walking this path.

Bare in mind that 99.9% of those people you see saying they saw the light falling from the sky, that are fallen angels incarnated and that had a coffee and a donut with the devil are people living in disneyland.

And last, please don't give a single dimme to someone who says that he/she is an expertise in some craft, you better off quit than becoming one of those people.

Anyways, usually alot of frustration, which i can assure you is common amongst fellow practiotioners, comes from the fact that sometimes we don't structure our goals correctly and in a balanced way, so my question remains.

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I'm not sure what it means, that's what I'm trying to figure out. If I had to guess, I'd say it seems as if the universe is against me, putting up a fight. And not just in magick either.

I want the usual: knowledge, material things to make life easier, to progress as a person etc.

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Well.. it depends alot on the perspective. We all go thro hard situations in life, and some people tend to see the positive side, others the negative. Since your not giving much detail in your current situation it's hard to be specific.

According to knowledge, you can easily gather alot of information thro books experiences etc. Becoming a better person.. it depends on your moral and principles, that's something that can be worked on but it's much easier when you are natural at it.
I'm guessing your talking about wisdom, and even tho that comes alot with experience, it's all about making decisions, and the right ones. It's not an easy thing to do.. that's why most wise people are of age, because they have learnt with failure - fail and repeat.
About material things.. i never did anything related to magick for that purpose nor i will always do, but some people do and it depends alot on what you are looking for. I think of it more in a spiritual perspective, and if i'm looking for material gain i just bust my ass off.

You have here a nice place to share info and learn.. people are friendly and it can help you atleast in becoming a more complete person and knowledge wise.

Anyways abit more detail would be nice!

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Honestly, the fact that you think divination lends some sort of objective insight tells me that you've barely scratched the surface. I see this all the time in young occultists, they are looking externally for hidden knowledge when the power is that of the belief and mind. This is why I recommend occultists like LaVey to start. Young views for young occultists, it builds a nice, rational and humanist foundation.

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My main issue is simple: I do a spell/ritual, it doesn't work. That's it really.

I've even done spells to help with my progress and to find what's holding me back. No go.

Lately I've been trying some Witchcraft and sigils. You'd think I'd get results putting in all that effort by now.

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Syntho wrote:My main issue is simple: I do a spell/ritual, it doesn't work. That's it really.

I've even done spells to help with my progress and to find what's holding me back. No go.

Lately I've been trying some Witchcraft and sigils. You'd think I'd get results putting in all that effort by now.
Stop "trying" and DO IT. Haven't you seen Star Wars? There is no try! Another rarity of LaVey getting something right: you have to believe in your magick, occult power is from the power of belief, not actual external forces. In a study of placebos, people with IBS were given a placebo, told it was a placebo, and told that placebos have been shown to help people with their symptoms. Even knowing it was nothing but a sugar pill, their symptom STILL improved. This is a perfect Analogy of how occultism works.

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So you think it's simply belief? I'm not sure how I can believe harder, but I'll try (do).

When I do anything there's not much disbelief. I'm concentrating on manifesting the result which is definitely within reach and possible. In the end though it's like filling up my gas tank but my car acts like I put nothing in it.

This is just confusing by now but I'll keep trying.

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Syntho wrote:So you think it's simply belief? I'm not sure how I can believe harder, but I'll try (do).

When I do anything there's not much disbelief. I'm concentrating on manifesting the result which is definitely within reach and possible. In the end though it's like filling up my gas tank but my car acts like I put nothing in it.

This is just confusing by now but I'll keep trying.
Start small and work up. Magick is the science and act of causing change to occur in accordance with will. ANY willful change to the subjective or objective universes. Creating this thread on a forum about how you are failing at magick is, ironically, a successful magickal act.

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I also suggest studying something a bit more formulaic than the things you listed. I find that those who have issues grasping the meat and potatoes of this sort of thing benefit from studying Daoism or Tu'Annadh, which have similar form. Daoist mysticism is probably the more easily accessible of the two. You can even give yourself a super simple intro to this by going and taking Tai Chi classes.
"I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night..."

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Nearly all of my (not yet extensive) work has been via candle spells (my own, which I create "on the fly" according to day or night, lunar phases, being mindful to honor North, East, South, West; etc.).

I do get results.

However, I've also found that allowing "Karma" to take its course with some situations and/or people is the best option...and it's via no effort on your part.

There are some things which cannot be controlled. And that might be for the best (don't ask me how I know this). The Trickster God has a sense of humor, trust me.
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Tell me the type of spells your doing. Practising for six or seven years with no result seems highly unusual.

It really is about the power of intention. If you don't truly believe it to be, then it will not be. If your subconscious mind is sabotaging the conscious mind you will not get a result.

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I know exactly where your coming from DrawingSun has it pegged. I've been there.

My suggestions to help.

First pick one system to work with that has daily practices in it and stick with it don't jump around any more stick to one.
Study the basic practices well and start really slowly building them up.

eg. For a GD based system QC,LRP,MP,meditation and solar adorations.

So starting off you would do the QC once maybe twice daily solar adorations and basic meditation. When doing the practice just believe in what your doing don't worry if nothing seem to happen from doing them most of the time it's so subtle that you won't notice anyway just think that they are. now when you got that down you can work by adding more. Now the hard part do it daily(You can pick a day or two of the week not to do it but keep it to these days only) no matter how you feel the fight is not with something external the fight is with yourself.Over time by doing this you will be reinforcing your belief that it works and slowly removing unconscious blocks. This may take a long time to overcome but really this is the only way that has been working for me.

I also suggest basic work with a single entity of some kind (god,angel,demon,etc) that is attributed to magic.
Set up a image of entity. Thank and ask for guidance from the entity daily and same as above just assume it is working.

After things have been working for awhile you can start to jump around again if you want to explore new things but do this in the same way.

Might not be the greatest news you want to hear but you seem to want it enough to do it.
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