Spells for dealing with an Alcholic

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Spells for dealing with an Alcholic

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I am at the end of my rope with a family member who is an alcoholic and am considering using a spell to help matters. I thought I might begin with some sort of purification or banishing, and maybe praying a novena, anyone have any suggestions?

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How is it with conviction about this spell? Do you think that it will really help or is it just an emergency solution because every other thing failed?

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It's an emergency solution, but i have a strong conviction, might be the best way to put it.

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Strong convictions can be very powerful.

A Novena wouldn't hurt any,so go for it,I say.

Anything you can give energy wise will help,but if the person concerned is unwilling to help themselves atm,you'll have a tough journey,no matter what you do.

Be careful of binding spells.They are so tempting when someone you care about is hurting themselves,but they can be a huge energy drain on the caster,as you will be taking responsibility for the person you've bound.
You tie them to you,when you do this and if they are determined in their negative actions,they can take all your energy as well as their own in fulfilling/fueling their desires.

Addiction issues are tough to deal with,no matter how you approach them.

You have to get to the cause,to find the cure,I think.

Why someone drinks themselves to the point of harm and beyond is very important.
Finding hope,when all else has flown and finding a goal to work towards that makes taking the first steps have meaning,is the biggest issue for many folk,I feel and it may be where you should best direct your energies and your spellwork.

Just some thoughts,not sure how helpful they are,but I wish you well in this and hope you get it sorted out.
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Thank you, Nahemah. It's very helpful. [thumbup]

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Sorry to say it, but I'm fairly certain that it won't make any real difference. Addiction is a deeply personal and multifaceted issue, and forceful external intervention rarely works well. The addict has to reach for themselves the point where they feel that the suffering they will endure through quitting is less than the suffering they undergo while using, and that's something you can't force on them. Until that happens, trying to make them stop usually just worsens the problem.
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Unfortunately RIn is correct.

Take it from me, my mother was an alcoholic, so I have been in your situation OP.
It is just an unfortunate reality, that no spell will help, here's the metaphysics behind it,

For a spell to alter ones behavior, you have to overpower their will to do something, if an alcoholic wants to drink, there is nothing you can do to overpower that, no matter what spell, from what grimoire you use.

But allow me to recommend this, use a spell to do one of two things,
1) Cast an Astral gimmick so they see in a dream the cause of their action.
2) Make them hit rock bottom.

I know, no.2 is a shocker coming from me, an exorcist, but yes, that is the only thing that can truly make an alcoholic stop, when they hit rock bottom and know it.
I will try and cast some random shizz for you, not sure how helpful it'll be though :/

You are in my prayers, I wish you the best.

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From my own experiences with family members who have these issues I have to say I agree with Rin & Lucius-chan. I do think you should use banishing & protective rituals to protect yourself.

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Surely in such a case itd be better to identify and strengthen the "positive" rather than attempt to destroy/banish the "negative" - think holistic vs mechanistic medicine - difficult as that mite be. Opening horizons of possibilities is wat its about rather than trying to forcibly change anothers will. Ive been around (and been into) drug/alcohol fuckry n often as not its the sense of imprisonment / lack of better prospects (in all senses) that keeps ya in this dependency.
Theres my two bob.
Sacraments like ibogaine (n othr entheogens) have been known to do wonders for addiction, having a "re-set"/life audit/pattern overcoming property. Seemingly it connects us to powerful n beneign intelligences that wish to see us live at full potential. of course its not for everyone n may be abused.

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You might want to try acupuncture. It has an excellent track record, but the subject must be willing to at least attempt to give up the booze. A much wiser approach would be to use some spell work, or better yet, acupuncture, for yourself. The reality of the situation is that the person you can best help is YOU. The alcoholic's problem is his/hers. The pain it's causing you is your problem and that is the thing that will fuck your life up. If you are old enough and have the financial ability, move out fast!

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I might be a little late to this party, but I can give you the point of view of the alcoholic. For one, it's been mentioned already how addiction is a multi-faceted issue. Brute force, or force at all, only causes resentment and anger, as well as danger. Alcohol addiction is a serious matter, and it affects the body in a very chemical manner. Your likelihood of having a magic powerful enough to change the chemistry in my body as well as the underlying psycho-social issues and my perception to them is laughably small. Withdrawal from alcohol can kill the person, as well, so you wouldn't want to take a non-alcohol approach to them either. In this case, focus more on yourself. Coping in different ways, boosting your mood, or changing your perception. It'll be much easier to change you than someone else, especially if they don't want change. If you do want to change them, it has to be done out of a helpful nature. Which means attacking the symptom (alcohol), and not the causes of their addiction (the social, psychological, etc.) issues, isn't helping. It would be like taking tylenol to stop a headache, but never getting the tumor that causes the headaches.
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