Has the Devil ever been worshipped through the bible?

[Klavier]

Pay attention please, because I think this should be considered a difficult question to answer:

I'm not talking about atheistic satanists.

I'm not talking about satanists who don't read the bible and believe it's a lie. Neither am I talking about the ones using only the verses of the bible that they care about.

I'm not talking about satanists claiming that Satan of the bible is actually anything else beyond of what is presented there and throughout christian traditions.

I'm asking if there has ever been an organized act of worshipping the DEVIL OF THE NEW TESTAMENT and having an organized philosophy based on the New Testament and especially the Book of Revelation.

I know some Black Metal bands naming themselves "orthodox satanists" and worshipping the Devil of the Bible, but that's not exactly what I mean while speaking about an "organized act".

[Ramscha]

I know some Black Metal bands naming themselves "orthodox satanists" and worshipping the Devil of the Bible, but that's not exactly what I mean while speaking about an "organized act".

Starting with the easy part, among the "satanistic" metal bands there is also lot of show, as show is also part of music business.
The crowd gets what the crowd wants.

Now coming to the bible part:
As far as I know from my time as satanistic oriented person the percentage of "satanists" believing or orienting themselves into the direction of the christian bible is a very low one. Also the question is if those can be regarded as satanists and not as so called"devil worshippers". There are satanists who do not consider them as part of the scene.

I heard that Eliphas Levi was considered such a person who worshipped the devil of the new testament and that the picture he created of the baphomet (modern baphomet) is directly connected to this. However, I don't know much about Levis work and life to submit to this, it might just be badmouthing as well.

Ramscha

[Klavier]

The comment about the bands is true, although some bands seem to actually be philosophically preaching about satanism.

I don't wish to mess with conventional terms like, "Satanism is not Devil worshipping, because satanists don't want to be called that way," let's use the terms semantically, shall we?

Eliphas Levi had stated directly that he hated the Devil and everything he represents.

[Desecrated]

Yes, there has been small groups of devil worship.

[Frater_VP]

There is a bunch of stuff out there with regards to satanism and OT books, but NT, haven't come across much. There is one books that might be of use to you. It might not be exactly what you're looking for, but there is a book called "rites and rituals of traditional witchcraft" by steele. That book gets into stuff like working with the 7-headed dragon of revelations.

[manofsands]

Whether it matters to Satanist (or Christains) revelations was about the Roman occupation and was rebelious symbolic talk against them at the time. It really has nothing to do with Satan or our present time.

oh,... sry,.. I mean,.. imho

[Klavier]

In fact the Book of Revelation contains whole chapters about Satan and the Antichrist, while there is only one chapter that can be considered a reference to Rome (the one about Babylon's fall). But, still, it's the Great Dragon who has to be imprisoned forever so that God can reign forever, not Rome. Although it contains way too many symbolisms, most texts trying to prove that it's almost useless and it only speaks symbolically about Rome, are written by christians who wish to prove that John actually wrote it as a message of hope for christians instead of a message of fear, something which is absolutely inaccurate since it's literarily obvious that John wants to scare the reader by presenting monsters and talking about eschatologies and death all the time. So, it would be pretty weird that this book hasn't inspired any satanic movements except of some gangs killing autonomously. I've also heard about a church from England called "The Black Church of Satan" which is considered to be promoting Biblical Satanism. Do you guys know anything about that?

I'll check out the book you mentioned, "Rites and Rituals of Traditional Witchcraft," hoping it won't be a Freemansonry book like Blavatsky's or something.

EDIT: It looks like messing more with paganism and folklore. Although these myths about Atlantis, also used by Nazi Germany, are pretty interesting, I don't think it can be considered a book about Devil Worshiping rites, so it cannot be considered an "organized act of worshiping the Biblical Devil" either.

[manofsands]

In fact the Book of Revelation contains whole chapters about Satan and the Antichrist, while there is only one chapter that can be considered a reference to Rome (the one about Babylon's fall).

It's possible that is absolutely true. My study of the bible as a whole leads me to believe otherwise. But if you are using such things in your practice and it works for you, that is all that matters.

[Klavier]

In fact the Book of Revelation contains whole chapters about Satan and the Antichrist, while there is only one chapter that can be considered a reference to Rome (the one about Babylon's fall).

It's possible that is absolutely true. My study of the bible as a whole leads me to believe otherwise. But if you are using such things in your practice and it works for you, that is all that matters.

I'm pretty sure there could be many satanic philosophical movements inspired by the Bible and the Book of Revelation. But most theistic satanists actually use verses to prove that Satan is something else, and not what is presented there. Now, the subject here of course is not whether the Bible contains lies about Satan or not, but if there are any organized Devil worshipers being able to support philosophically the idea that the Bible doesn't lie at all and that Satan is the negative entity that is presented there and should be worshiped exactly as God is.

The Book of Revelation should have a major role in such cases, because the eschatologies written there would be used by these persons as well, but inverted. Think of this: The believers who adhere to the word of God deserve to go to heaven and be saints. The ones opposing God through their deeds or beliefs should go to hell. What about the ones adhering to the word of the Devil, if that is considered to be everything opposing God as the Devil does, and also worship the Devil believing there will actually be a battle at the end of times that they'll have to fight in order to dethrone God? Shouldn't these people have a special fate and believe the ones actually adhering to the word of God are going to be punished forever, since Satan will prevail?

[manofsands]

Im sorry. I don't have a frame of reference for either side of the argument. I don't believe or care for most anything written in the bible (besides some 'truths' I pulled out of sections like the sermon on the mount).

I don't believe in Heaven or Hell as an ultimate end destination, though I believe spirits may make a stop at either after death for as long as they feel the need. I don't believe in an end battle or an end times. I think the Devil tends to be a scapegoat for Christians but I don't need an entity to blame my personal darkness on. I try to own it. I certainly don't need a dark entity to worship. Yet I'm not criticizing anyone for doing so, neither do I critisize those who worship a bright entity. I think we are where we need to be to learn what we need to learn.

Sorry, I didn't mean to take your topic on such a tangent.

[Klavier]

Im sorry. I don't have a frame of reference for either side of the argument. I don't believe or care for most anything written in the bible (besides some 'truths' I pulled out of sections like the sermon on the mount).

I don't believe in Heaven or Hell as an ultimate end destination, though I believe spirits may make a stop at either after death for as long as they feel the need. I don't believe in an end battle or an end times. I think the Devil tends to be a scapegoat for Christians but I don't need an entity to blame my personal darkness on. I try to own it. I certainly don't need a dark entity to worship. Yet I'm not criticizing anyone for doing so, neither do I critisize those who worship a bright entity. I think we are where we need to be to learn what we need to learn.

Sorry, I didn't mean to take your topic on such a tangent.

It doesn't matter anyway, because that's not the subject of this topic. You see the point is not if you, or I, believe in heaven and hell, Satan and God, Christ and Antichrist, the point is if there are any satanic organizations, or organized satanists, who believe in all these things and everything written in the Bible, and can support them philosophically.

[RoseRed]

I haven't come across any but that's not to say that they're not out there.

[Klavier]

I'm sure they are, the question is, why after all these ages of religious christianity we have to search for people who worshiped the one and only opposer of christianity's "almighty God"? How is it possible that they don't have a significant and proven presence through history. Under all this religious environment none found shelter under the mythology of the biblical Devil in order to organize well this kind of satanism? Are there any historical records of religious and monotheistic worshipers of the biblical Devil?

[Asurendra]

I would recommend this book for anyone interested in the subject:

http://www.amazon.com/A-History-Devil-G ... +the+devil

[Adramin]

We are out there. That is for sure. I hail from the Cathedral of the Black Goat. The book of revelation is bias for it favors the god in heaven. The war is not over and Antichrist supremacy will prevail exalting Lucifer who is the most high. Those with eyes let them see.