good old cartomancy

[hyperion5225]

hello there, as there has been alot of talk about affordable magic and tarot decks, i would like to throw in my favorite divination, cartomancy .
cartomancy is quite a bit simper that tarrot in terms of there is no major arcana that have a thousand meanings( i alter mine to have some arcana but that is a story for another day) simply buy a deck of bicycle playing cards (maybe three dollars ) and open it *bam* instant inconspicuous portable divination device

better yet it is easier to read playing cards for those who are beginning occultism , or those who find that ommonus death card too "spooky, evil, demonic " or what have you. it is inconspicuous, fairly clear in meanings . and makes a good party trick, every one loves down and dirty divination at party's

and the real kicker, if you know how to do it you can even tell time . 52 cards for the 52 weeks of the year, thirteen types of cards for lunar months , four suits for the four seasons . you get the idea

so fledglings rejoice! you now have a cheap alternative to get your feet wet with without spending a ridiculous amount

advanced practitioners, what are your thoughts on cardomany, have you tried it, prefer one or the other?

and as a final note, dont underestimate how accurate this can be, just as good as tarot / runes / entrials if you know what your doing .

have fun [yay]

[Desecrated]

I like it. I did it for years before I got a tarot deck.

If we are just talking about divination I don't feel that one is better then the other. BUT the tarot has much more uses then just divination. it is a good start for occult understanding.

[hyperion5225]

i agree for learning about general occultism, the tarot is better. the symbolism is very rich and allows a lot of learning , but for money and actual use- you can Cary a deck of cards into a church or a coffee shop all the same. for me in the deep south of america- it is much more acceptable and im less likely to be chased down by villagers with pitch forks and be burned at the stake [grin] . and while i don't think any one divination is superior- i find that cartomancy is generally more forgiving, and i personally have had much clearer answers - but to each there own

[Desecrated]

i agree for learning about general occultism, the tarot is better. the symbolism is very rich and allows a lot of learning , but for money and actual use- you can Cary a deck of cards into a church or a coffee shop all the same. for me in the deep south of america- it is much more acceptable and im less likely to be chased down by villagers with pitch forks and be burned at the stake [grin] . and while i don't think any one divination is superior- i find that cartomancy is generally more forgiving, and i personally have had much clearer answers - but to each there own

I find normal cards are much better at giving straight answers. The tarot really seems to hate yes and no answers.

Another fun thing you can try is dice. That is something you can also roll in public without attraction to much attention.

[hyperion5225]

i agree for learning about general occultism, the tarot is better. the symbolism is very rich and allows a lot of learning , but for money and actual use- you can Cary a deck of cards into a church or a coffee shop all the same. for me in the deep south of america- it is much more acceptable and im less likely to be chased down by villagers with pitch forks and be burned at the stake [grin] . and while i don't think any one divination is superior- i find that cartomancy is generally more forgiving, and i personally have had much clearer answers - but to each there own

I find normal cards are much better at giving straight answers. The tarot really seems to hate yes and no answers.

Another fun thing you can try is dice. That is something you can also roll in public without attraction to much attention.

Actually dice are somethig I have been looking at recently- I would enjoy reading about it if you could point me in the right direction

[Desecrated]

The oracle of madame marie is a nice little book.


Other topics:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astragalomancy
http://www.serenapowers.com/dice.html

[hyperion5225]

Thank you , it is appreciated

[findingtruth]

i agree for learning about general occultism, the tarot is better. the symbolism is very rich and allows a lot of learning , but for money and actual use- you can Cary a deck of cards into a church or a coffee shop all the same. for me in the deep south of america- it is much more acceptable and im less likely to be chased down by villagers with pitch forks and be burned at the stake [grin] . and while i don't think any one divination is superior- i find that cartomancy is generally more forgiving, and i personally have had much clearer answers - but to each there own

I know the feeling....Was a bit deeper south before I moved, but still on the outskirts of the "Bible Belt" unfortunately. Could you show me a couple sources as to where you started to learn cartomancy?

[hyperion5225]

http://www.metasymbology.com/symbols.html

This is the most coherent version- it works by basically number x suit . For example a 4 means manifestation - a heart means emotion- there fore a four of hearts would be a physical gift / consequence of love, , every one has different meanings for the numbers- they just use numerology - it's the suits that are hard.

[findingtruth]

http://www.metasymbology.com/symbols.html

This is the most coherent version- it works by basically number x suit . For example a 4 means manifestation - a heart means emotion- there fore a four of hearts would be a physical gift / consequence of love, , every one has different meanings for the numbers- they just use numerology - it's the suits that are hard.

Thanks!

[edaen]

I like your post. According to me Cartomancy is quite easy as compared to the tarot card reading. Cartomancy is generally a beginning step towards occultism. But with Tarot card reading you get advance knowledge about this.
In my knowledge ,Cartomancy is an old fortune-telling a divination method using a regular deck of playing cards. This practice is very appealing because the cards were related to Astrology. Actually it is a method of divination that uses playing cards.
In this, the four suits were associated with the four elements (Fire, Earth, Air, and Water).
There are thirteen cards in each of the four suits, corresponding to the 13 lunar months in a year. Fifty-two cards correspond to fifty-two weeks in a year.
Hearts correspond to the element of water, and signify love, friendship & happiness.
Clubs correspond to the element of fire, and generally signify business, ambition, and achievement issues. They usually indicate success and happiness. Diamonds correspond to the element of earth, and generally signify career, and money issues. Spades represents the element of air, and generally signify gossip, challenges, messages, and upsets.

[hyperion5225]

I like your post. According to me Cartomancy is quite easy as compared to the tarot card reading. Cartomancy is generally a beginning step towards occultism. But with Tarot card reading you get advance knowledge about this.
In my knowledge ,Cartomancy is an old fortune-telling a divination method using a regular deck of playing cards. This practice is very appealing because the cards were related to Astrology. Actually it is a method of divination that uses playing cards.
In this, the four suits were associated with the four elements (Fire, Earth, Air, and Water).
There are thirteen cards in each of the four suits, corresponding to the 13 lunar months in a year. Fifty-two cards correspond to fifty-two weeks in a year.
Hearts correspond to the element of water, and signify love, friendship & happiness.
Clubs correspond to the element of fire, and generally signify business, ambition, and achievement issues. They usually indicate success and happiness. Diamonds correspond to the element of earth, and generally signify career, and money issues. Spades represents the element of air, and generally signify gossip, challenges, messages, and upsets.

you summed it up quite nicely , i agree that it is a beginning step in occultism, but then again so is meditation. both can be used effectively for as long as you practice and a little longer. each card also applies to a day/week of birth, for example i did a divination for the year, and in January i had pulled a jack of spades, usually meaning a younger person with a bad temper- but for me i had met a girl in january , who i later found out was born on the corresponding day for the jack of spades - that is something that doesn't work as well with tarot , because it doesn't have solid correspondences to the weeks ( as far as i know)