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Hi.

I found this strange (seal?) today, anyone knows what it is? What is for?
I can see hebrew here and astrology symbol.

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It looks alchemical. The center symbol is the orb + cross representing Antimony. The interlaced triangle connects the above with the below.

Not sure about any of the other symbols/letters except for Aleph.
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Thanks for reply.

It's something about philosophers stone? What it(i mean this medallion) can be used for?
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It could be someone's interpretation of the philosopher's stone. But who knows.

You could use it for things related to antimony (aka stibnite), I suppose. This symbol is also the first link on the Golden Chain of Homer, which represents 'the chaos of the philosophers'.

Personally, I would figure out what all the symbols meant before I put it into use.
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would the symbols not be meaningless until you attribute a meaning to them?
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chowderpope wrote:would the symbols not be meaningless until you attribute a meaning to them?
Actually no, symbols have inherent power within them, the lines and shapes of them donate the, for lack of a better term, lines of power which causes them to have an effect. However, they do need an energy source to empower them, and the more meaning you attribute to then the stronger they get via resonance with the practitioners energy and will/intentions
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Pointrox wrote:Hi.

I found this strange (seal?) today, anyone knows what it is? What is for?
I can see hebrew here and astrology symbol.

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I don't know what is the use for the medallion, I'm not familiar with sigils and stuff like that but I am very familiar with the Hebrew language. The letters on the top from right to left are a, ch( gluttural k sound ),and the bottom letters from left to right are t, g. If being read from top to bottom it spells "at chag" which means "your holy day" in the female sense but it might not be meant to be read in that order. Hebrew letters are also used as numbers. In gematria at chag can equal a number and the symbol in the middle could be a planetary symbol like Venus which can be in the seasons of Taurus or Libra or can be the symbol mentioned earlier.

Maybe it's a best time to contact an entity, which one...I wouldn't know just my guess. Just thought I'd help with the letters/ numbers since I do know hebrew.

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Well, I would just say that the center circle+cross symbol can also be considered as a Venus symbol or symbol of copper (then it would be upside down, so antimony looks more like the case).

What really bugs me is the triangle and square symbol as it seems familiar yet I cannot recall its meaning. Only thing that comes as similar is the symbol of sulfur (triangle and cross)
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Thank you all for answers, especially for mr E. Well, at least i know what's written on it.

About speaking with entity, i have no experience with that and i dont want trouble.
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Pointrox wrote:Thank you all for answers, especially for mr E. Well, at least i know what's written on it.

About speaking with entity, i have no experience with that and i dont want trouble.
Your welcome, I wanted to clarify myself when I said " maybe it's a best time to contact an entity " what I meant was maybe the medallion is specifying a time frame for when it's best to contact an entity. Also I read what I posted and I wanted to correct what I wrote about the bottom letters it's from right to left not left to right. I suggested that reading the letters from top to bottom right to left what it spells but it's probably not read in that specific order.

You know the saying " everything happens for a reason"? You found this and now it's in your possession you know the rest...

I'm glad I was able to help a little.

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E. wrote:The letters on the top from right to left are a, ch( gluttural k sound ),and the bottom letters from left to right are t, g.
Good eye. The only thing I could decipher was the aleph; the rest was too stylized.
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I feel strange pulsating energy when i'm holding it, also i'm feeling like something is watching me.
Strange things happening since i have this..

What should I do with this? Is there any way to check it's energy or something?

One of my friends told me, to destroy it.
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What kind of strange things? Every effect is like it's cause, and it might help narrow down this pendant's purpose. If the things are indeed linked to this item's strangeness.

Have you been wearing it or is it sitting at home most the time?
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I'm wearing it all the time. I feel power and strenght, and a little bit more aggressive and confidence i think.

About that things, I have more luck recently, more opportunities, more money..
But as i said im also more aggressive, I beat someone recently.
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Well if it's causing you to beat someone you should throw it in the trash.
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Hello there Pointrox,

If at any point you want to rid yourself of the medallion I will gladly take it off your hands.

Good day,
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Thank's for you kindness mr E. but i think i'll keep it [wink]
But really thank you, at least you knew what was written on it, while others had no idea what it is.

I found someone who actually have some knowledge, here's what he said:

"It's commemorative medallion illustrating Sphere of Amentia, some kind of egregore amulet. You can feel unusual spiritual emotions from it. It's accumulated with previous owner energy, perhaps jewish nationality who could have great skills in astral visualization. Every thing may have a certain specification, although much depends on owner supporting a positive self-suggestion. Faith works miracles."

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When I first saw this a while back I didn't have time to reply, but it seemed like a Planetary Talisman. Venus, specifically, but it's odd to me that Venus is written upside down. Just like the Runes, there is more than one quality of energy that can be drawn from the Planetary Rays and the Symbols that serve as the sigils for the Rays. So while you usually get Love and Sexuality and Fertility energies from Venus, you can also get the opposite of any of those and other things. Which is why it's important to use magical symbols and seals correctly, and why it's sometimes dangerous to wear poorly designed amulets that were made by a merchant instead of a magician.

There's also more than one magick there. The Kabbalistic Formula A-CH-T-G is one spell, the central symbol is another spell, the other two symbols I can't identify have their own magick, the Hexagram has its own power, and of course the material the talisman is made of has its own magical properties as well. All of these are supposed to be weaved together into a single magical purpose (thus serving as an amulet), but while they are all there, I'm not sure they are properly synchronized. The Venus symbol seems dissonant to me, and frankly, that's where your recent anger issues may be coming from (remember, Venus has a wrath of her own).

And then there is the charging of the previous owners. *shrugs* It's a nice pendant, but I'm not sure I would wear it.



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I'm not feeling anger from it anymore, it seems I needed to get used to it. I will not wear it anymore, it's locked in my closet now.

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You can wear it if you want to. What you do is your choice, I just said I wouldn't. If you're not feeling odd things from it anymore I may have been wrong about it anyway. [thumbup]



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The middle icon has nothing to do with Venus.

As mentioned by corvidus its telluric in nature. It reminds me of something.. something in one of Jake Stratton Kents books.

He used a very similar sigil to the Telluric sigil that the sigils of the goetic entities are placed within to call them forth.

Its on the tip of my tongue, but the memory banks have failed me. Ill look into it tomorrow for pure curiosities sake.
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Tossing a magical item in the trash is not a great way to dispose of it.

It's usually a bad idea to wear magical items if you have no idea what their purpose is.
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Looking in the Verum we find this, page 24.

http://www.akor.cc/More%20Books/GrimoriumVerum.PDF

Interestingly, the placement of the solar and lunar sigils is reversed in this copy from my own and from my own work, but even more of interest is that its a seduction spell.

Maybe there is a venusian connection after all, but I cant see that being the reason for this amulet.

Maybe someone with more extensive book knowledge on this might be able to reveal more.
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And I still think it's a globus cruciger :)

But I'm not near enough to it to tell what it's all about...

The orb and cross, being a Christian symbol, would go well with the Hebrew letters/word, IMO.
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Considering this is used in modern day goetic magick by people like kent to command daemons that have their sigils inscribed within its centre that makes additional sense.
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